For the People with Made For This op?
For the People can be used to instant heal a survivor while Made For This negates the health loss with Endurance. It's effectively an instant heal with little downside.
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If i am not wrong, this perk can't be used with For the People. Because Made for This activates whenever you are injured. And when you are injured, you can't use For the People.
Edit: I just checked wiki, it's correct. You can't use this perk with For the People.
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I'm pretty sure you can use For the People to injure yourself but to heal the other survivor, causing for made for this to activate?
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For endurance value from Made for This, you need to heal someone whenever you are injured. So healing someone with For the People will activate Made for This because you are losing health state but you won't get endurance effect because you were healthy whenever you healed other survivor.
For endurance effect, you need to heal someone when you are also injured. So this combo can't be used.
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I believe two perks do synergize. It worked on PTB. FTP injures you first then gives health-state. It is pretty strong in clutch situations, particular ones that when someone is slugged on floor and your trying to pick them up without dying yourself. If slugging ever becomes more common then this effect will really help survivors if the killer camps slugs.
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Well then they need to change perk's description. Because it says this perk will be activated when you are injured. It included both of effects.
So it bugged on PTB or they just explained perk wrong.
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maybe they explained perk wrong. you likely get endurance whenever you heal someone from dying->injured or healthy but 3% haste only works when injured and does not work when exhausted. perhaps tooltip is suppose to be reflecting that.
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I would assume FtP and MfT will not work together. I can't confirm this, but I know for a fact that FtP and We're Gonna Live Forever (WGLF) do NOT synergize. FtP is considered using an action ability, NOT a heal, so survivors healed from dying with FtP do not get Endurance from WGLF.
Again, I can't confirm if it truly does or does not synergize, but if it is like WGLF, it will not.
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Thats weird, because last time I used FTP/wglaf together it did work, and I know they didn't have soul guard or anything
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Even if they do work together, that's only going to be useful in situations where they're picking up someone from the dying state while the killer's already there, and there are ways of doing that which are probably a lot smoother than combining MfT and FtP.
FtP will make you injured so you can start using MfT, but it's not as though becoming injured is either particularly difficult to achieve or only a good thing, so that part's probably fine.
It's not a lack of a downside because you're still injured. You may move 3% faster, and you may have 10 seconds of Endurance... but if you aren't actively being chased you don't get to use the Endurance, and you're still vulnerable to a one-hit down when the killer does catch up. Made for This is going to have strong use cases, but I don't think this is going to be one of them.
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You need to heal the person for like 1% normally then you can FTP and then made for this works, the combo does seem too strong.
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someone told me they tested and they synergized while healing someone from injured to healthy but not from dying to injured. i didn't try and see myself but if it works together when getting someone up, it will be annoying. i can't call it op it's just a ftp play, but yea, annoying.
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To clear up a couple of things. When you use For the People you then activate Made for This - you do not get the Endurance effect then because you didn't heal someone when injured but you do get the haste effect. So whilst there is synergy there, in that you can activate the perk this way, you do not get full use out of the perk.
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Yeah im pretty sure FTP and WGLF was fixed in a bugfix. Because i think otz did a video of renewal FTP to.
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"If you see the bar raise by a bit on renewal (aka do a little bit of actual healing) then fill the rest with FTPs effect you meet the heal requirement for renewal. Just don't insta tap it.
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Thank you for explain.
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I wonder if that was a bug then. I tried using it many many times and it never gave endurance to my targets whenever I picked them up from dying state. I eventually gave up on it and haven't tried it for probably 6 months or so.
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It was bugged on the PTB then, because you did get Endurance from MFT when using FTP, but only if the survivor you healed was injured (and thus became healthy). If you used FTP to heal a survivor out of the dying state, then the Endurance did not trigger. I tried this multiple times and this pattern was consistent.
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