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Tierlist of how strong killers would be in a fight lorewise. (Open for debate)

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leviivel
leviivel Member Posts: 271

these fights are based on the killer vs an average human, the Human has very little to zero prep time (adrenaline and fear is gonna start kicking in), guns are not allowed for the human, killers are at their normal strength IRL (not entity strength boosted).

Quick context on the tiers:

Death: you could not beat this killer at all.

MAYBE: if you get very lucky or happen to potentially get the upper hand.

50/50: decently equal chance of either winning.

You’ll probably win: chances of beating this killer are decently high.

Mystery or depends: abstract killers that i have no clue how you’d be able to interact with them or killers that are very dependant on the circumstances.


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  • Raconteurminator
    Raconteurminator Member Posts: 594
    edited June 2023
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    Singularity is ten times stronger than a human. For context, a gorilla is six times stronger and can quite happily turn you into person-jam. I don't see that being a maybe.

  • Deathstroke
    Deathstroke Member Posts: 3,044
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    Im pretty sure bubba would kill normal human. He killed like 20 people on the bus in latest movie on netflix and is very durable and big guy.

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,782
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    The average person is not surviving any of these. The only one I think that's up for debate is Legion if you're taking on one of them, and then I feel like Joey and Susie wouldn't even need to be fought if it were them. Otherwise nah we all are dying.

  • leviivel
    leviivel Member Posts: 271
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    I mean understandable, i just thought because it’s a robot, you could expose it or atleast attempt some kind of strategy against it. Because it’s also hard to pinpoint Singularities strength compared to other real world animatronics because a lot of them currently aren’t very durable, but this one’s from the future.

    judging singularity is such an awkward cookie because he only killed 2 people from direct attacks, his other 7 kills weren’t even physical attacks.

  • leviivel
    leviivel Member Posts: 271
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    That netflix movie was really stupid. It’s one of my favourite horror movies because of how ridiculous it is, but nobody in that movie was smart.

    DBD bubba is also based of the original (if im not mistaken). IIRC he doesn’t really take any severe hits in that movie, so it’s hard to judge how durable he is in there.

  • leviivel
    leviivel Member Posts: 271
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    Let’s pretend these average humans actually have fighting capability 🤷

    Pig is legit just a lady in a pig mask, the worst she’ll do is maybe get a lucky throat slice or sedate you.

    Twins are probably more scared than you are.

  • NoOneKnowsNova
    NoOneKnowsNova Member Posts: 2,782
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    In that case then maybe Twins could be taken on, so could Nurse if you avoid a blink. Amanda could be as she's far from the perfect disciple of John Kramer and is quite rash in how she approaches things.

    Then there are some that are complete easy if we take away their entity powers. Spirit without her entity powers is dead. She called on the entity to keep her alive. So is Plague as she called out for a god to save her from dying. Then there's Legion who's stronger without the entity as they can all be together and a four on one isn't in the ones favour in this case.

    I've a feeling without the entity controlling some killers, some of these wouldn't be fighting us. Deathslinger clearly has morales in his own lore. So does Billy, and potentially Wraith and Trapper depending on how far they are insane.

    Then there are some like Trickster and Ghostface who the average person is hopeless against cause if we are being lore accurate, they're stalking you before fighting you and they'll get you when you aren't ready.

  • leviivel
    leviivel Member Posts: 271
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    characters like Ghostface can definitely surprise attack you, but they have the weakness of having nothing going for them if are able to react fast enough, bulkier characters are a bigger threat or Skull Merchant who’s weapon is nuts strong and her drones make it basically impossible to see her coming (or for you to surprise her).

    also understandable that quite a few of the killers wouldn’t attack unprovoked, but it’d be interesting to still guess how you would fair.

  • edgargarciabe660
    edgargarciabe660 Member Posts: 44
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    I think in his lore they say that he's made out of a material that is more resistant and lightweight than anything on Earth, so I dont think he could be easily diassembled

  • FridayNightPizza
    FridayNightPizza Member Posts: 577
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    I'd put Twins higher up tbh, Charlotte looks strong as hell and they've probably picked up some nasty tricks from surviving on the run for so long.

  • FridayNightPizza
    FridayNightPizza Member Posts: 577
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    I'd put Twins higher up tbh, Charlotte looks strong as hell and they've probably picked up some nasty tricks from surviving on the run for so long.

  • leviivel
    leviivel Member Posts: 271
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    suppose that’s true, although it’s still a bit messy because i’m unsure if the fusion with organic Human parts actually changes some of his attributes.

  • leviivel
    leviivel Member Posts: 271
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    they have strength yes, but they’re probably going to be a lot more scared than you are plus with the amount of trauma they’ve built, if you even manage to find a weapon you’ll probably scare them off. Although Charlotte is definitely not weak, she’s a very capable survivor with what her tome lore mentions.


    so i’d say she might eventually just back off and nobody dies. But they still definitely have tricks, although Victor would be very weak without the entity buffing him (or he’d just be dead) but they have some tricks, like how Charlotte jumped on top of a witch hunter and just bit out his throat.

  • Ariel_Starshine
    Ariel_Starshine Member Posts: 937
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    I'd say PH is the best.

    He's unkillable, and he exists just to kill, although I won't spoil SH2 since the remake is coming out, but since PH came into the entities realm of his own accord, all he does is kill and he can't be damaged in any way.

    That being said, stunning him shouldn't happen and certainly not blinding him. If he stuck to his true lore he's basically invincible. I want to say more but don't want to spoil stuff from sh2 :)

  • chatgiraffe
    chatgiraffe Member Posts: 113
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    why is Dredge in "maybe or depends"? its a flesh puppet piloted by the physical embodyment of negative emotions. even if you were to slice its head clean off, it doesnt matter since thats not even a real part of its body. not to mention it could have a ######### ton more parts hidden inside itself that it could pull out and attack you with, and thats not even considering the teleportation and the mori

  • Depressedlegion
    Depressedlegion Member Posts: 258
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    Are we forgetting billy as super strength? Plus hag is literally just a stick lady. Death Slinger is fair though if he misses, you probably end him before he reloads, but if he hits you your dead.

  • leviivel
    leviivel Member Posts: 271
    edited July 2023
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    Death slinger’s gun is non-lethal lorewise, so MAYBE if you’re strong enough to take the bayonet or break free, you can beat him (especially since he has a leg brace).


    Billy has super strength yes, but he isn’t very smart nor is he extremely durable.

  • Cleverotter
    Cleverotter Member Posts: 128
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    i would disagree with skull merchant. She isn’t very strong without her augments

  • ImainAsh
    ImainAsh Member Posts: 3
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    not really. Killers are picked based on their potential and this potential is unleashed in the trails. This means that legion now is one of the best killers that could exist in the trail so there's no surviving them too. Also pinhead can be sent back to hell with box in the original film but in dbd The Entity probably changed that for the trail purpose