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New Onryo is so fun I rather play againts Skull Merchant
Thank you BHVR for making Onryo one of the most unfun killers to go againts after her changes 💖 dbd is definetly the game of all times!
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Oh yes, I definetly didn't try that before, I definetly made this thread without playing againts her enough times to know the counters againts her are not enough, thank you for your oblivious comment ☺️
100% the new changes we're tested enough before going live
100% its so balanced that I rather go againts pro Blight,Nurse, Skull Merchant
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Start of the trial
Take a tape
Go to a gen
Do the gen to 50%
Use the tape to disable the TV
Finish the gen
If all 4 survivors do this, pretty much all TVs are disabled on the map but well... you have tested everything right ? :)
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it works as long as TV spawns aren't busted. It happened quite a lot tbhat there were two TVs for every gen in a three gen area. And yes, that means there was a good chunk of the map where there was no TV whatsoever.
There are strategies to deal with new Well Lady -- but only so long as TV spawns aren't busted. TV spawns need another round of revision (along with hook spawns, while we're at it) and then I'm more inclined to say she's alright if people know the appropriate strategy.
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Oh yes, this definetly doesn't allow Onryo to tunnel a survivor with a tape then teleport when he doesn't hold a tape after hitting it, 100% new Onryo is not busted and the most fun killer in the game!
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Having a brain means you
Having a brain means you should realize going againts the new Onryo is the most unfun experience you can possibly have since there is little you can do to counter her getting condemn so fast and you can outpressure her unless you have a god swf team.
Its a sad experience.
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If all 4 survivors are taking and using tapes, there won't be much TVs left to teleport the whole game.
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Ah yes, thank you for giving me the counter, because the Onryo cant just tunnel the survivor with a tape and condemn him,and by the time 1 or 2 gens are done, that survivor is fully condemned and survivors are left in a 3v1 situation at 3 gens if they're lucky :) foolish me smh
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Literally just had a Sadako who did nothing but slug with Knockout, spam her teleport, then tunnel the hell out of whoever get's condemned first.
She did not pick up once.
What a fun, healthy experience!
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It takes 4 tape hits to condemn someone, and she's not tunneling them if she's teleporting to various places on the map. If your tape breaks just grab another, turn it in when you're over 4 stacks. Then grab another.
This is the part where you come up with some complaint to justify why thats not possible, because you refuse to adapt. If not, apologies in advance.
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Basekit Sadako is fine imo.
Iri Tape and Mother's Comb are clearly problematic. Mother's Comb provides too much information, and Iri Tape just removes her main counter. I have not seen a single Sadako with these add-ons lose.
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Ok. lets trade. give me your Sadako games and ill give you my SM games.
Facing more sadako is always a win.
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Omg im being tunneled by an m1 killer with no chase capability at all whatever will I do?...anyways.
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iri tape must get changed
Survivors should be able to deposit tapes in turned off tvs so she doesn't keep tping to every tv the Survivor goes to.
Survivors have a bit too little to work with rn.
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Yup, only a couple weeks now, so excited!!!
If they cant fix her by then, I dont see myself playing this game anymore. Really is just a silly and broken killer at this point. And thats two killers now that I just dont want to entertain. (SM and Sadako)
Her only counter is an SWF.
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They all run those type of addones and perks that will reveal your location, making it impossible for you to get a tape and succesfully put it in a tv.
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Exactly. I don't think people would complain so much if Sadako's didn't spam these add-ons.
I think Basekit she's absolutely fine, but BHVR clearly doesn't know how to balance add-ons, at all.
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She's scary now. What's the problem?
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Imagine
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I love facing Onryō! She's much tougher now and certainly requires more effort, but she still has ways to counter successfully. It's just a case of working harder and managing between gens and tapes. Trying to "just do gens" against Onryō is a one way tickets to death.
Personally, I love a killer that adds more to a trial than just running away and doing gens. If Skull Merchant was reworked entirely to have the drones not acting as a 3-gen, but more of an attacking style, she could also become fun because it's an extra objective that makes the trial way better than just running and genning.
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Ran into a hard tunneling sadako that just chased me around from the moment they saw me to prevent me from getting any tapes so I could clear condemn and then just insta-moried me. Dumbest ######### ever.
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As a frequent Onryo player who tested this, I can say you are right on here. I play Onryo without these add ons and don't really try to condemn everyone, but I might TP a bit more now than before the changes (and if it happens I'll happily give you the eyeball). Playing Sadako "normally" is work, and she's middling at best.
But when running the Iri tape/Mother's comb combo, the survivor counterplay falls apart under sustained pressure. Every time I ran that combo and really tried to apply pressure and condemn, I absolutely rinsed every team I faced (a small sample of ~10 games). And a few of them were clearly SWFs that did exactly what they should have done, or tried to anyway.
Grabbing that tape is the right move, but hurts more than anything if I know when and where you grabbed it.
As you say, it's just too much info, and combined with the iri tape makes getting that tape you picked up to the one TV you can use (usually on the opposite side of the map) no mean feat. And if she's running multiple aura reading perks on top of everything? Yikes.
If your team is super coordinated (and on comms) versus a good Onryo player running these add ons and actively trying to condemn everyone, you'll likely be fine. Maybe, if RNG is on your side.
If not? Good freaking luck.
All that said, I'd play against these all day rather than even a game or two against SM. Skull Merchant may be the worst thing BHVR has ever done.
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Yeah I haven't lost a game on this yet. I'm not counting but im around 50ish games without all the gens being done. Running the healing addon with mothers comb with hex: ftd, brutal, thana, nowhere to hide you just teleport to the closest turned off tv, smack someone and move on. Eventually you just snowball past the point they can move tapes around and do gens at the same time. It's pretty silly. The TP CD needs to be higher imo.
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