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Would this be a bannable action?

Z0mbiv0r
Z0mbiv0r Member Posts: 306
edited August 2023 in General Discussions

I played a game against a Legion, this guy slugged one of us and did nothing else but stay near them so we couldn't pick them up. So far I understand it's a 'valid strategy' (I'm keeping my thoughts on this 'valid strategy' argument to myself but you can guess what I think of this players). But then again, in EG he slugged us all three remaining survivors and then just stayed there until we all bled out, nothing we could possibly do. Of course this was followed in the chat by the usual trolling and teasing, which is the least of my concerns. I took a clip of the eg with my phone but alas failed to take note of the username, though I did submit a foul play report. Should I take further actions? Can I? Regardless, I seriously think you have to step up your efforts to combat this, BHVR. It's rdiciulous the amount of work one has to put into reporting bad sportsmanship. Which, then again, happens too often. This one just was the one to push me into asking about it, but there are a lot of people who act like the worst during trials. And I'm just sick of this. As someone who hates unfair, mean attittudes overall, I'm just mad we allow these people to go on as they want. This is a problem with people all around the world, not only in gaming, and every time is always the same. Now, if I would speak my mind I would be the one banned for insulting and such, which is a clear reflection of how society works. This kind of behaviour should banish from society.

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  • SMitchell8
    SMitchell8 Member Posts: 3,302

    Did you and/or your teammates do something to provoke that kind of behavior? Persistent flashlight saves, teabagging, very hard to catch in the first place, juking etc?

    If you didn't do anything that warranted some 'payback' then yeah he probably deserves a slight reprimand.

    I couldn't imagine someone wanting to play that way every game. Perhaps he had a very rough previous game (bullied) and decided to vent his frustration on the next bunch of players.

  • Z0mbiv0r
    Z0mbiv0r Member Posts: 306

    As far as I know, nothing of the sorts happened. It could still have been the issue, but even then, once all of us were in the ground, why not hook us? Still, we never got hooked even once. They didn't even grab any of us, I mean. I understand having a rough time as a killer, but then again, I wouldn't take my frustration on the next guys.


    Ty for replying, anyway :)

  • Z0mbiv0r
    Z0mbiv0r Member Posts: 306

    Oh, I see. Thank you for replying.

  • katoptris
    katoptris Member Posts: 3,210
    edited August 2023

    You deemed this person a bad person cause he slugged in a video game. He allowed to slugged and frankly it your fault for getting caught. If he insult you then he needs to get some help with that mentality of his.

  • Z0mbiv0r
    Z0mbiv0r Member Posts: 306

    Well, that's certainly a bad move on their part. Survivors hiding and doing nothing is one of the worst things can happen too. Shows little respect for other's time, and there's no fun to be had in just hiding forever, so I would say you response was adequate.

    Fortunately I haven't had survivors like that in a looooong time. Truth be told, though, I have been being stomped on as a killer for a few weeks anyway. I'm guessing MMR is doing a great job (sarcasm) or summer break has seen an increasing amount of good players or friends playing together which results in more difficult, sweaty matches.

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,410

    Slugging is a gameplay tactic. As a console player, my only non-perk counter to Boil Over is slugging. If BHVR banned killers for bleeding players out, the only way I could handle Boil Over is to stick my nose in a corner and refuse to interact. Because no, I'm not going to be forced to pick up a downed survivor just so I can be stuck in place while they wiggle off. You want a fast death, crawl to a hook (spoiler alert: they never do, not even when every remaining survivor is slugged).

    There's no way to ban for "unsportsmanlike" slugging without risking banning legitimate cases like Boil Over or a dead zone thanks to Breakdown, not to mention the number of survivors who force a bleed out by crawling into a corner to hide. It'd be a nightmare for staff to have to scrutinize each individual case.

  • Melinko
    Melinko Member Posts: 291

    Wouldn't be too hard to figure out.

    1 bleed out happens. Someone crawled to a dead zone or valid reason.

    All 4 bleed out? That should get you a couple day break from the game. No reason for that behavior, ever.

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,410

    I've had sabo squads, and I've had four Boil Overs in a match. That's four bleed outs, unless I instead go AFK rather than deal with that. If survivors bring a loadout to avoid being hooked, it's ridiculous that they then get salty when they don't get hooked. But they do, they get mad that you're not a Bloodpoint piñata that lets them wiggle off over and over again. They'd absolutely report that if it were bannable and the BHVR staff would have to sift through those reports.

    It's four minutes on the ground, it's annoying but it's easy enough to put the controller down and get a snack or something. Meanwhile, as killer I can't actually go AFK anymore without risking a penalty, so I have to at least walk around in the match which may go on a lot longer than four minutes. It's dumb that I have to move the analog stick around with my foot while I eat chips and wait for them to do gens. I'd much rather be able to go fully AFK and trust the survivors will be gone within four minutes.

  • Meepy13
    Meepy13 Member Posts: 109

    Bhvr has no way of knowing if it was malicious or if he was scared of power struggle or flip flop or whatever, so no it's not bannable

    Things said in the endgame chat can result in bans tho

  • drsoontm
    drsoontm Member Posts: 4,903

    The bleed-out is usually reserved to very specific matches but is completely valid.

    When I do it on purpose it's usually against "bullies" equipped with some specific builds that make hooking them hazardous.

    Usually the counter is to crawl away in different directions, aiming for the usual hatch spawns. The killer can't camp all 3 at once.

    During the EGC (I presume that's what you meant) heading for the opened doors he can hardly get all of you.

  • Thusly_Boned
    Thusly_Boned Member Posts: 2,984

    Well, there's very little reason, though there are circumstances where a team will run builds, choose maps and/or locations on a map and utilize strategies that make it almost impossible to get them to a hook, and that is the point.

    In those cases it is totally justifiable to bleed them all out. They probably deserve it. If they're going to go out of their way to make my game miserable, I will do the same. It's reciprocity.

    If that's not the case, bleeding everyone out is pretty much strictly a dick move and totally uncalled for. And that does happen, people will bleed out a whole team just because. It's really senseless, since you get fewer points that way; it's just a power trip thing.

    But not bannable.

  • whammigobambam
    whammigobambam Member Posts: 1,201

    Maybe he had a ritual.

  • Z0mbiv0r
    Z0mbiv0r Member Posts: 306

    It could be a challenge or ritual, but I don't think so given his attitude in the chat. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I do thank you people for sharing your thoughts. In regards to survivor's builds, I don't know if they had Boil Over, I didn't check. I certainly didn't, but it's not like we were far from hooks. The killer didn't even try to grab one of us once. He could be roleplaying a no hooks game. I've seen some videos of builds that focus on slugging, but even then, this people usually move around the map doing something instead of just stay close to downed survivors.

    I guess you could say that's on us for trying to help our teammates instead of focusing on doing gens. And we did. Still feels like an awful behaviour. By the end we were 3 remaining survivors (all gens done, though) who tried to rescued one another before escaping and thus ended up crawling with different bleed out progress.

  • Katzengott
    Katzengott Member Posts: 1,210

    Remember, a slugged surv has 2 minutes on the ground, which equals 2 hook states.

    So my advice, if the killer doesn't really has a slugg build: Finish the gen, then try to pick up. Even better to split up on 3 gens, most killers will pick up at some point. And if not, all gens should be done anyway.