A Wraith body blocked me in the basement is that bannable?
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@Dokta_Carter said:
SenzuDuck said:@Attackfrog said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@FrenziedRoach said:
Dick move, but fair play as far as the rules go.
It's my understanding that as long as it's not a case where he afk's for 20 minutes and never comes back till you all disconnect, then it's bannable. But the fact that he was just using NOED in a rather simplistic but effective matter means he never intended to delay the game - only use his perk.
If that's bannable, then it's bannable for survivors to run around the map another 10 minutes in front of the exit instead of leaving.
Just saying.
@FrenziedRoach said:
Dick move, but fair play as far as the rules go.
It's my understanding that as long as it's not a case where he afk's for 20 minutes and never comes back till you all disconnect, then it's bannable. But the fact that he was just using NOED in a rather simplistic but effective matter means he never intended to delay the game - only use his perk.
If that's bannable, then it's bannable for survivors to run around the map another 10 minutes in front of the exit instead of leaving.
Just saying.
How are you guys so blind to bad killer tactics?
A survivor can't do anything to a body blocking killer, a killer can force survivors out of the gate. You guys really do only see one side it's ridiculous.
Being a bad killer isn't bannable. Bodyblocking in this way is worse for both killer and the survivor than camping, but it didn't break the game, hack or prevent the survivors from progressing the game illegally. I agree that the only benefit for the killer is frustrating the survivor that was blocked, but we don't know how much of a jerk the survivor may have been before hand (hell, i will waste a game and camp someone who taunts and teabags just for kicks).
And if he didn't taunt the killer....well....that's just a bad killer and if you just play a little later in the evening it will be past his bedtime and his mommy will have put him to bed.
I have no issue with body blocking at all, but it completely prevents another player participating for no other reason than to be a nuisance, that should not be part of the game imo.
Not trying to disagree but... Unless all the survivors were noobiea shouldn't they have i dunno cleanse the totems? NOED should be assumed in most cases(because when you least expect it its there)
There's so many variables, they honestly probably thought he would have stood there until they DC'd they didn't know he was waiting 8 whole minutes for NOED.
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@Attackfrog said:
I actually like body blocking...don't flame me. I find it useful as killer to block window leaps and sometimes pallets. This use of it is a bit ridiculous....but I even like that survivors can risk doing it too (as frustrating as it is!).I think, overall, it adds more to the game than takes away. Just like booze....yeah it is terrible how some people abuse it, but do you really want to live WITHOUT it?
They could pretty much prevent this kind of body blocking by making the stairs a little wider, again, I don't mind body blocking if you're waiting a mechanic out BT/Head Traps. But trying to justify 8 minutes of someones time for NOED seems pretty unfair to me.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Attackfrog said:
I actually like body blocking...don't flame me. I find it useful as killer to block window leaps and sometimes pallets. This use of it is a bit ridiculous....but I even like that survivors can risk doing it too (as frustrating as it is!).I think, overall, it adds more to the game than takes away. Just like booze....yeah it is terrible how some people abuse it, but do you really want to live WITHOUT it?
They could pretty much prevent this kind of body blocking by making the stairs a little wider, again, I don't mind body blocking if you're waiting a mechanic out BT/Head Traps. But trying to justify 8 minutes of someones time for NOED seems pretty unfair to me.
I agree about the 8 minutes, but i like that the basement can be bodyblocked. It makes it VERY risky to go in there...as it should be.
But again, some people will exploit it.
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“Killers don’t risk anything body blocking.”SenzuDuck said:@KiraElijah said:
First off, yea. You’re biased. Second, he was just saying killer also risks crap when they blockBlocking for an entire 8 minutes is on the killer, there is no excuse for that, no reason to do, at that point you're making the choice to lose, you're not playing properly, he COULD have played the game properly and gained more points but HE decided not too, that's not an excuse or a reason to body block.
Find one actual biased comment I've ever made and I'll accept it, until then stop making up lies, you don't know what biased means.
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YeaMaster said:@SenzuDuck said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
The_Crusader said:
weirdkid5 said:This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.
In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
In any other game, one team standing in the way to block the other from doing their objective would have been fixed a long, long time ago.
Bodyblocking shouldn't be in the game for anyone. But survivors wanted it as a tactic, so it's only fair that killers get to use it as a tactic too.
The bias is strong. I don’t get how people don’t see the difference between survivor body blocks and killer body blocks.
SURVIVORS TAKE DAMAGE
KILLERS DO NOT
you risk something to block as a survivor you risk nothing as a killer.
this guy waited 8 minutes, after 2/3 most players would assume a hostage game and DC.
A killer bodyblocking a guy in basement risks losing all map pressure and geting genrushed
And? 8 minutes to body block someone in the basement is not the same as taking a hit, you guys call me biased but when it comes to something like this you'll defend it to the moon and back it's so sad.
I dare to say that 8 minutes bodyblockign someone is more risky than taking a single hit if we are talking about losing the game
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I don't mind body blocking either but holding the game hostage is when you force someone to DC since they can't win or lose. Yes, I'll agree that 8 minutes is risky because if the survivors would have DC'd thinking the killer was holding the game as hostage, they could've got the killer a temporary ban and it's fair game.SenzuDuck said:@Attackfrog said:
I actually like body blocking...don't flame me. I find it useful as killer to block window leaps and sometimes pallets. This use of it is a bit ridiculous....but I even like that survivors can risk doing it too (as frustrating as it is!).I think, overall, it adds more to the game than takes away. Just like booze....yeah it is terrible how some people abuse it, but do you really want to live WITHOUT it?
They could pretty much prevent this kind of body blocking by making the stairs a little wider, again, I don't mind body blocking if you're waiting a mechanic out BT/Head Traps. But trying to justify 8 minutes of someones time for NOED seems pretty unfair to me.
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If he had just stayed there without attacking you or hooking you and left you body blocked in the basement then yes that would be bannable. Since he one shot you down and hooked you it's just more of a dick move.0
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@SenzuDuck said:
@KiraElijah said:
First off, yea. You’re biased. Second, he was just saying killer also risks crap when they blockBlocking for an entire 8 minutes is on the killer, there is no excuse for that, no reason to do, at that point you're making the choice to lose, you're not playing properly, he COULD have played the game properly and gained more points but HE decided not too, that's not an excuse or a reason to body block.
Find one actual biased comment I've ever made and I'll accept it, until then stop making up lies, you don't know what biased means.
This comment you just made is biased. The lack of comments about op survivors is also biased considering most agree it's true/fact.
You always take survivor side. Never killers.
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I don't really see what the big deal is.. ez dc onto the next game lol
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@Bbbrian2013 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@KiraElijah said:
First off, yea. You’re biased. Second, he was just saying killer also risks crap when they blockBlocking for an entire 8 minutes is on the killer, there is no excuse for that, no reason to do, at that point you're making the choice to lose, you're not playing properly, he COULD have played the game properly and gained more points but HE decided not too, that's not an excuse or a reason to body block.
Find one actual biased comment I've ever made and I'll accept it, until then stop making up lies, you don't know what biased means.
This comment you just made is biased. The lack of comments about op survivors is also biased considering most agree it's true/fact.
You always take survivor side. Never killers.
Take a shot for everytime someone says the word "Bias" or "biased" in this discussion
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Take a shot for every time someone says the word "toxic" if you really want to play a hardcore game.@JoyfulLeader said:@Bbbrian2013 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@KiraElijah said:
First off, yea. You’re biased. Second, he was just saying killer also risks crap when they blockBlocking for an entire 8 minutes is on the killer, there is no excuse for that, no reason to do, at that point you're making the choice to lose, you're not playing properly, he COULD have played the game properly and gained more points but HE decided not too, that's not an excuse or a reason to body block.
Find one actual biased comment I've ever made and I'll accept it, until then stop making up lies, you don't know what biased means.
This comment you just made is biased. The lack of comments about op survivors is also biased considering most agree it's true/fact.
You always take survivor side. Never killers.
Take a shot for everytime someone says the word "Bias" or "biased" in this discussion
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@JoyfulLeader said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@KiraElijah said:
First off, yea. You’re biased. Second, he was just saying killer also risks crap when they blockBlocking for an entire 8 minutes is on the killer, there is no excuse for that, no reason to do, at that point you're making the choice to lose, you're not playing properly, he COULD have played the game properly and gained more points but HE decided not too, that's not an excuse or a reason to body block.
Find one actual biased comment I've ever made and I'll accept it, until then stop making up lies, you don't know what biased means.
This comment you just made is biased. The lack of comments about op survivors is also biased considering most agree it's true/fact.
You always take survivor side. Never killers.
Take a shot for everytime someone says the word "Bias" or "biased" in this discussion
You trying to kill us?
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You know when you say a word over and over until it loses meaning? That's what the word "bias" has turned into after reading this.
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You don’t know what biased is, I wouldnt want to be the guy that says “yea 8 minutes body blocking a guy in the basement is fine” most survivors after 5 minutes would think they’re taking the game hostage and DC.Bbbrian2013 said:@SenzuDuck said:
@KiraElijah said:
First off, yea. You’re biased. Second, he was just saying killer also risks crap when they blockBlocking for an entire 8 minutes is on the killer, there is no excuse for that, no reason to do, at that point you're making the choice to lose, you're not playing properly, he COULD have played the game properly and gained more points but HE decided not too, that's not an excuse or a reason to body block.
Find one actual biased comment I've ever made and I'll accept it, until then stop making up lies, you don't know what biased means.
This comment you just made is biased. The lack of comments about op survivors is also biased considering most agree it's true/fact.
You always take survivor side. Never killers.
there is no reason to body block for that long for one kill when he could have got multiple playing the match properly. He did it purely out of spite and you guys will still defend it.
If a survivor stood on on a rock for 8 minutes while others did gens I’d crucify them too, but this is a killer taking the game hostage for two players, not a survivor.
Give your head a wobble because it ain’t on properly.1 -
Anyone justifying 8 minutes because other players could do stuff and he hit them afterwards is an idiot.Nickenzie said:
I don't mind body blocking either but holding the game hostage is when you force someone to DC since they can't win or lose. Yes, I'll agree that 8 minutes is risky because if the survivors would have DC'd thinking the killer was holding the game as hostage, they could've got the killer a temporary ban and it's fair game.SenzuDuck said:@Attackfrog said:
I actually like body blocking...don't flame me. I find it useful as killer to block window leaps and sometimes pallets. This use of it is a bit ridiculous....but I even like that survivors can risk doing it too (as frustrating as it is!).I think, overall, it adds more to the game than takes away. Just like booze....yeah it is terrible how some people abuse it, but do you really want to live WITHOUT it?
They could pretty much prevent this kind of body blocking by making the stairs a little wider, again, I don't mind body blocking if you're waiting a mechanic out BT/Head Traps. But trying to justify 8 minutes of someones time for NOED seems pretty unfair to me.
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Actually, bodyblocking is not bannable unless it is to hold the game hostage. So, bodyblocking to wait out a death, or hold off for BT is one thing, but holding the game hostage so players can do nothing for 8 minutes? That sounds bannable to me.
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It seriously is one of the scummiest plays to make but it's not bannable as the game is still progressing.
8 minutes blocking someone is not right and it would be nice if it could be prevented but to ban someone for it would be wrong, yes it stops someone playing the game but so does a one down and camp the hook, downing someone and letting them bleed out for 4 minutes it's all a matter of perspective it's just part of the game.
Now if they didn't down them and hook them at the end it would be different.
I am not justifying what happened I am just saying how it is unfortunately.
They used a strat to secure two kills, a scummy, silly and boring strat but unfortunately its a strat none the less.0 -
You could've messaged a teammate about it. Ran back down to the basement. Anything other than wait there0
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@GamingZebra88 said:
You could've messaged a teammate about it. Ran back down to the basement. Anything other than wait thereIf I messaged a teammate then what could they do? He was literally blocking the only entrance and I don't think he cared about sound notifications too.
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@Bbbrian2013 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@KiraElijah said:
First off, yea. You’re biased. Second, he was just saying killer also risks crap when they blockBlocking for an entire 8 minutes is on the killer, there is no excuse for that, no reason to do, at that point you're making the choice to lose, you're not playing properly, he COULD have played the game properly and gained more points but HE decided not too, that's not an excuse or a reason to body block.
Find one actual biased comment I've ever made and I'll accept it, until then stop making up lies, you don't know what biased means.
This comment you just made is biased. The lack of comments about op survivors is also biased considering most agree it's true/fact.
You always take survivor side. Never killers.
So complaining about a killer doing something that's highly questionable is survivor bias when again. As far as survivors being op that has nothing to do with the post at hand other than as a convenient troll distraction from your post.
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@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
The_Crusader said:
weirdkid5 said:This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.
In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
In any other game, one team standing in the way to block the other from doing their objective would have been fixed a long, long time ago.
Bodyblocking shouldn't be in the game for anyone. But survivors wanted it as a tactic, so it's only fair that killers get to use it as a tactic too.
The bias is strong. I don’t get how people don’t see the difference between survivor body blocks and killer body blocks.
SURVIVORS TAKE DAMAGE
KILLERS DO NOT
you risk something to block as a survivor you risk nothing as a killer.
this guy waited 8 minutes, after 2/3 most players would assume a hostage game and DC.
A killer bodyblocking a guy in basement risks losing all map pressure and geting genrushed
@Attackfrog said:
@weirdkid5 said:
This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
The killer could have gotten more kills by hooking the guy, camping the hook and using his noed on another survivor and then camping that hook. Easy 2k, instead of the 1k he got.
While he bodyblocked the basement, the survivors had free reign of of the map. It's in the same vein as camping a hook, only WAAAAY less efficient. Camping a hook at least makes sense because you are getting your kill while taking a survivor out of the match...plus it's only 2 mins.
Bodyblocking in this way is not a good strategy unless you are solely trying to frustrate that survivor. And if the survivor wasn't taunting the killer, then it is truly a dick move.
But we also don't know what happened pre-bodyblock! Maybe this survivor was teabagging and taunting...in which case, the in-game response makes sense.
That's quite irrelevant. You are still holding someone's game hostage for 5+ minutes. This should be bannable.
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@powerbats said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@KiraElijah said:
First off, yea. You’re biased. Second, he was just saying killer also risks crap when they blockBlocking for an entire 8 minutes is on the killer, there is no excuse for that, no reason to do, at that point you're making the choice to lose, you're not playing properly, he COULD have played the game properly and gained more points but HE decided not too, that's not an excuse or a reason to body block.
Find one actual biased comment I've ever made and I'll accept it, until then stop making up lies, you don't know what biased means.
This comment you just made is biased. The lack of comments about op survivors is also biased considering most agree it's true/fact.
You always take survivor side. Never killers.
So complaining about a killer doing something that's highly questionable is survivor bias when again. As far as survivors being op that has nothing to do with the post at hand other than as a convenient troll distraction from your post.
My post wasn't about the post at hand. It was about the person posting and their history. I would've posted that in any thread/topic.
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@Bbbrian2013 said:
@powerbats said:
@Bbbrian2013 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
@KiraElijah said:
First off, yea. You’re biased. Second, he was just saying killer also risks crap when they blockBlocking for an entire 8 minutes is on the killer, there is no excuse for that, no reason to do, at that point you're making the choice to lose, you're not playing properly, he COULD have played the game properly and gained more points but HE decided not too, that's not an excuse or a reason to body block.
Find one actual biased comment I've ever made and I'll accept it, until then stop making up lies, you don't know what biased means.
This comment you just made is biased. The lack of comments about op survivors is also biased considering most agree it's true/fact.
You always take survivor side. Never killers.
So complaining about a killer doing something that's highly questionable is survivor bias when again. As far as survivors being op that has nothing to do with the post at hand other than as a convenient troll distraction from your post.
My post wasn't about the post at hand. It was about the person posting and their history. I would've posted that in any thread/topic.
Yet I keep asking people to show me all these survivor biased comments I keep making yet nobody has, but it's very clear no one knows what bias is when I'm apparently biased for not defending an 8 minute body block.
OMEGALUL
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@weirdkid5 said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
The_Crusader said:
weirdkid5 said:This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.
In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
In any other game, one team standing in the way to block the other from doing their objective would have been fixed a long, long time ago.
Bodyblocking shouldn't be in the game for anyone. But survivors wanted it as a tactic, so it's only fair that killers get to use it as a tactic too.
The bias is strong. I don’t get how people don’t see the difference between survivor body blocks and killer body blocks.
SURVIVORS TAKE DAMAGE
KILLERS DO NOT
you risk something to block as a survivor you risk nothing as a killer.
this guy waited 8 minutes, after 2/3 most players would assume a hostage game and DC.
A killer bodyblocking a guy in basement risks losing all map pressure and geting genrushed
@Attackfrog said:
@weirdkid5 said:
This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
The killer could have gotten more kills by hooking the guy, camping the hook and using his noed on another survivor and then camping that hook. Easy 2k, instead of the 1k he got.
While he bodyblocked the basement, the survivors had free reign of of the map. It's in the same vein as camping a hook, only WAAAAY less efficient. Camping a hook at least makes sense because you are getting your kill while taking a survivor out of the match...plus it's only 2 mins.
Bodyblocking in this way is not a good strategy unless you are solely trying to frustrate that survivor. And if the survivor wasn't taunting the killer, then it is truly a dick move.
But we also don't know what happened pre-bodyblock! Maybe this survivor was teabagging and taunting...in which case, the in-game response makes sense.
That's quite irrelevant. You are still holding someone's game hostage for 5+ minutes. This should be bannable.
I actually agree in technical terms the killer was not allowing the survivor to partake in normal gameplay and he should be banned, it really comes down to how long they are bodyblocking for in the end but anything more then 5+ minutes deserves a temp ban. However waiting 20 seconds for BT to run out is a valid strategy IMO.
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@weirdkid5 said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
The_Crusader said:
weirdkid5 said:This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.
In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
In any other game, one team standing in the way to block the other from doing their objective would have been fixed a long, long time ago.
Bodyblocking shouldn't be in the game for anyone. But survivors wanted it as a tactic, so it's only fair that killers get to use it as a tactic too.
The bias is strong. I don’t get how people don’t see the difference between survivor body blocks and killer body blocks.
SURVIVORS TAKE DAMAGE
KILLERS DO NOT
you risk something to block as a survivor you risk nothing as a killer.
this guy waited 8 minutes, after 2/3 most players would assume a hostage game and DC.
A killer bodyblocking a guy in basement risks losing all map pressure and geting genrushed
@Attackfrog said:
@weirdkid5 said:
This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
The killer could have gotten more kills by hooking the guy, camping the hook and using his noed on another survivor and then camping that hook. Easy 2k, instead of the 1k he got.
While he bodyblocked the basement, the survivors had free reign of of the map. It's in the same vein as camping a hook, only WAAAAY less efficient. Camping a hook at least makes sense because you are getting your kill while taking a survivor out of the match...plus it's only 2 mins.
Bodyblocking in this way is not a good strategy unless you are solely trying to frustrate that survivor. And if the survivor wasn't taunting the killer, then it is truly a dick move.
But we also don't know what happened pre-bodyblock! Maybe this survivor was teabagging and taunting...in which case, the in-game response makes sense.
That's quite irrelevant. You are still holding someone's game hostage for 5+ minutes. This should be bannable.
But it isnt, just like its not bannable to sit on the map somewhere after the gates have been opened.
Yes its bad design, but it is what it is.1 -
@JoyfulLeader said:
So I was playing a match on Father Campbell's Chapel, I was playing against a Wraith who hooked a Claudette in the basement, I went down there and saved her, as we went up the stairs we couldn't go past Midway up. We came to the conclusion that the killer was invisible and was blocking us from leaving.About 8 minutes later, the exit gates are powered and he uncloaks and uses no one escapes death on me as the Claudette runs away, he hooks me and keeps hitting me until I die, after the game ended, he texted me saying that he can't get banned because he didn't prolong the game.
I reported him for game play abuse, but I want to know if what he did is bannable or not, if it's not then that pisses me off, remember that this was on console, so I'm not sure if the banning system is the same as PC. I would really like this discussion to be noticed
that sounds funny as #########. kind of a dick move but I don't think he can get banned for that he didn't prolong the game really, like he said.
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@Master said:
@weirdkid5 said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
The_Crusader said:
weirdkid5 said:This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.
In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
In any other game, one team standing in the way to block the other from doing their objective would have been fixed a long, long time ago.
Bodyblocking shouldn't be in the game for anyone. But survivors wanted it as a tactic, so it's only fair that killers get to use it as a tactic too.
The bias is strong. I don’t get how people don’t see the difference between survivor body blocks and killer body blocks.
SURVIVORS TAKE DAMAGE
KILLERS DO NOT
you risk something to block as a survivor you risk nothing as a killer.
this guy waited 8 minutes, after 2/3 most players would assume a hostage game and DC.
A killer bodyblocking a guy in basement risks losing all map pressure and geting genrushed
@Attackfrog said:
@weirdkid5 said:
This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
The killer could have gotten more kills by hooking the guy, camping the hook and using his noed on another survivor and then camping that hook. Easy 2k, instead of the 1k he got.
While he bodyblocked the basement, the survivors had free reign of of the map. It's in the same vein as camping a hook, only WAAAAY less efficient. Camping a hook at least makes sense because you are getting your kill while taking a survivor out of the match...plus it's only 2 mins.
Bodyblocking in this way is not a good strategy unless you are solely trying to frustrate that survivor. And if the survivor wasn't taunting the killer, then it is truly a dick move.
But we also don't know what happened pre-bodyblock! Maybe this survivor was teabagging and taunting...in which case, the in-game response makes sense.
That's quite irrelevant. You are still holding someone's game hostage for 5+ minutes. This should be bannable.
But it isnt, just like its not bannable to sit on the map somewhere after the gates have been opened.
Yes its bad design, but it is what it is.If you have a video and proof that a survivor is in your game after gates are powered for upwards of ten minutes and you report it I'm certain it would count as a mark against your account tbh.
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@Master said:
@weirdkid5 said:
@Master said:
@SenzuDuck said:
The_Crusader said:
weirdkid5 said:This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.
In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
In any other game, one team standing in the way to block the other from doing their objective would have been fixed a long, long time ago.
Bodyblocking shouldn't be in the game for anyone. But survivors wanted it as a tactic, so it's only fair that killers get to use it as a tactic too.
The bias is strong. I don’t get how people don’t see the difference between survivor body blocks and killer body blocks.
SURVIVORS TAKE DAMAGE
KILLERS DO NOT
you risk something to block as a survivor you risk nothing as a killer.
this guy waited 8 minutes, after 2/3 most players would assume a hostage game and DC.
A killer bodyblocking a guy in basement risks losing all map pressure and geting genrushed
@Attackfrog said:
@weirdkid5 said:
This idea that "because he eventually killed you" and "he didn't prolong the match" is exactly why we have little shits like that still running around in the game.In any other game something like this would immediately be labeled as greifing, no matter how long the time (unless you're playing Rust, in which case you better be prepared to be someone's little prisoner)
The killer could have gotten more kills by hooking the guy, camping the hook and using his noed on another survivor and then camping that hook. Easy 2k, instead of the 1k he got.
While he bodyblocked the basement, the survivors had free reign of of the map. It's in the same vein as camping a hook, only WAAAAY less efficient. Camping a hook at least makes sense because you are getting your kill while taking a survivor out of the match...plus it's only 2 mins.
Bodyblocking in this way is not a good strategy unless you are solely trying to frustrate that survivor. And if the survivor wasn't taunting the killer, then it is truly a dick move.
But we also don't know what happened pre-bodyblock! Maybe this survivor was teabagging and taunting...in which case, the in-game response makes sense.
That's quite irrelevant. You are still holding someone's game hostage for 5+ minutes. This should be bannable.
But it isnt, just like its not bannable to sit on the map somewhere after the gates have been opened.
Yes its bad design, but it is what it is.You're actually wrong about this but that's ok.
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Is that statement directed to me? I'm saying 8 minutes is risky for the killer, is that a problem?SenzuDuck said:
Anyone justifying 8 minutes because other players could do stuff and he hit them afterwards is an idiot.Nickenzie said:
I don't mind body blocking either but holding the game hostage is when you force someone to DC since they can't win or lose. Yes, I'll agree that 8 minutes is risky because if the survivors would have DC'd thinking the killer was holding the game as hostage, they could've got the killer a temporary ban and it's fair game.SenzuDuck said:@Attackfrog said:
I actually like body blocking...don't flame me. I find it useful as killer to block window leaps and sometimes pallets. This use of it is a bit ridiculous....but I even like that survivors can risk doing it too (as frustrating as it is!).I think, overall, it adds more to the game than takes away. Just like booze....yeah it is terrible how some people abuse it, but do you really want to live WITHOUT it?
They could pretty much prevent this kind of body blocking by making the stairs a little wider, again, I don't mind body blocking if you're waiting a mechanic out BT/Head Traps. But trying to justify 8 minutes of someones time for NOED seems pretty unfair to me.
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@Nickenzie said:
SenzuDuck said:
Nickenzie said:
SenzuDuck said:@Attackfrog said:
I actually like body blocking...don't flame me. I find it useful as killer to block window leaps and sometimes pallets. This use of it is a bit ridiculous....but I even like that survivors can risk doing it too (as frustrating as it is!).
I think, overall, it adds more to the game than takes away. Just like booze....yeah it is terrible how some people abuse it, but do you really want to live WITHOUT it?
They could pretty much prevent this kind of body blocking by making the stairs a little wider, again, I don't mind body blocking if you're waiting a mechanic out BT/Head Traps. But trying to justify 8 minutes of someones time for NOED seems pretty unfair to me.
I don't mind body blocking either but holding the game hostage is when you force someone to DC since they can't win or lose. Yes, I'll agree that 8 minutes is risky because if the survivors would have DC'd thinking the killer was holding the game as hostage, they could've got the killer a temporary ban and it's fair game.
Anyone justifying 8 minutes because other players could do stuff and he hit them afterwards is an idiot.
Is that statement directed to me? I'm saying 8 minutes is risky for the killer, is that a problem?
How is it a risk? He's clearly made the choice to stand their until noed procs, he doesn't care about getting kills or pipping, he's just interested in stopping two players participating in the match.
There was no risk for him because he'd already decided to lose by doing that.
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I'm talking about risk like in the survivors thinking he's taking the game as hostage. If the survivors thought he was taking the game as hostage at the 5 minute mark and DC'd, the killer could've gotten reported.SenzuDuck said:@Nickenzie said:
SenzuDuck said:
Nickenzie said:
SenzuDuck said:@Attackfrog said:
I actually like body blocking...don't flame me. I find it useful as killer to block window leaps and sometimes pallets. This use of it is a bit ridiculous....but I even like that survivors can risk doing it too (as frustrating as it is!).
I think, overall, it adds more to the game than takes away. Just like booze....yeah it is terrible how some people abuse it, but do you really want to live WITHOUT it?
They could pretty much prevent this kind of body blocking by making the stairs a little wider, again, I don't mind body blocking if you're waiting a mechanic out BT/Head Traps. But trying to justify 8 minutes of someones time for NOED seems pretty unfair to me.
I don't mind body blocking either but holding the game hostage is when you force someone to DC since they can't win or lose. Yes, I'll agree that 8 minutes is risky because if the survivors would have DC'd thinking the killer was holding the game as hostage, they could've got the killer a temporary ban and it's fair game.
Anyone justifying 8 minutes because other players could do stuff and he hit them afterwards is an idiot.
Is that statement directed to me? I'm saying 8 minutes is risky for the killer, is that a problem?
How is it a risk? He's clearly made the choice to stand their until noed procs, he doesn't care about getting kills or pipping, he's just interested in stopping two players participating in the match.
There was no risk for him because he'd already decided to lose by doing that.
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