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i feel like im being punished by not playing selfishly

as a survivor, i very often will throw my chances of escaping to try to let someone else leave. i generally really dont care about winning, i just either want to have fun or help other people win.

whats happening now though, is im really feeling the effects of this via MMR. though i have 1500 hours, im frequently matched with people with under 50 hours.

in theory, i would love to help these lil guys win. in practice, we dont win. ever.

my first match in about a month i had 3 teammates with almost full yellow perks (one purple across all of them), two of them only had 2 perks equipped. one feng got hit in front of killer and immediately tried to heal herself with her medkit right in front of him. default meg was very default meg. just walking around not doing gens. by the time i got second hook, one feng was already dead, the other was workin hard on a gen, bless. meg was edge map gaming across the map, which made sense why she hadnt touched a gen my entire chase. (bond + kindred + open handed is a curse in games like this)

like yeah, in theory i could have looped for 10 minutes, and if only one person touched gens sure i could have gotten out, but thats a tall order. im not *that* good, but i had him for at least 4 minutes and that was like one gen and maybe 1/4 another. i got out of the game with 10k points, 3k more than the next highest, and they were 3k above the next.

am i crazy that i feel like MMR should be more points/contribution driven? (different categories weighted differently or something, not just cut and dry emblem colors). after that game i feel like i need to play for myself and not worry about anyone elses survival, but that doesnt feel good at all. it doesnt really make sense for team-based gameplay either. 

Comments

  • Grigerbest
    Grigerbest Member Posts: 1,840

    What you are doing is very commendable. Just don't do that all the time. Your escape should be a priority, or at least 70% of your matches, with randoms.

    And know to who you are helping. Most of the time, no one cares, sadly, it's randoms.

    I was always saying that points must be more important for your MMR, rather than just escapes.

    "Oh wait, I forgot... DBD is like a hockey... Pardon me."

  • mikewelk
    mikewelk Member Posts: 1,669

    Matchmaking on DBD is just bad like that. You died = you're bad. I think it's time to play more selfishly though because I know how it feels to have teammates like that and, unfortunately, it kind of is the only way to get your MMR up. Still help where you can, but don't feel obligated to do everything for them, it only ruins your experience at the end of the day.


    In higher MMR you often hear the term 'altruism kills' floating around and that is pretty much true. You'll find they aren't as altruistic but there will always be one survivor that will still save you off hook and heal you. That's pretty much all the altruism you need. Perhaps some body blocks would help but those usually do more harm than good.


    I tend to see a win as just looping a killer for a long time. That way if I get tunneled then it's whatever and I'll just go next happy. If you could try to find enjoyment in that, your MMR will technically go up more compared to just being altruistic.

  • Marc_go_solo
    Marc_go_solo Member Posts: 5,347

    Dwight's quote is something to go by:

    "We have to work as a team! I need you to survive so that I can survive!"

    ...Or something close to that. Basically, everyone works together until the Exit Gates are opened, or as good as. I'll weigh up the likelihood of being successful myself in saving someone. If I feel there's a good chance, especially if I'm not alone, I will help. If the odds are less likely I'll survive, the escape won't work, or there won't be enough time to save me, then I'll leave.

    Sometimes I may run in on a death wish if I'm feeling it, but most often I'll weigh up probabilities before committing to saving someone endgame. However, the key to the game is that Dwight quote. Not working together will significantly reduce survival chances to the Gods of Luck. It's the calculation near the end which counts.

  • xEa
    xEa Member Posts: 4,105

    Welcome to DBD solo queue.

  • Ayodam
    Ayodam Member Posts: 3,222

    So all that teamwork got you teammates who are new to the game, huh? Lol. Go find a SWF. That’s probably better for someone at your level.

  • dwight444
    dwight444 Member Posts: 448

    I find I end up being altruistic during EG to save my teammates and very rarely is it reciprocated

    hell, some matches I will go and save someone and that guy bolts it for the exit. No thought of resetting, nothing, they are straight up out

    long story short, sometimes it is best to just leave. Solo queue is not meant to be fun