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DEV HELP PLEASE - AFK Wraith/Freddy O_O

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  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Outland said:

    @AgentApple50 said:
    Correct me if I'm wrong but if you AFK as Wraith in Cloak and the survivors cannot get you out of cloak, then I think it is possible to de-pip survivors this way as they cannot get any boldness points and altruism points excluding the "reunited" bonus.

    If they find a flashlight they can burn you out of cloak. If he's wanting true AFK then Freddy is the one to use.

    Well that and also if you're using Dark Sense it instantly elts you know if you're looking in the killers direction. If you run in his area I think you still get boldness points however, same goes for pallets/window vaulting at full run.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @RemoveSWF said:
    The only reason people are going AFK is to grind shards, duh.

    You do realize you don't get shards just from playing the matches anymore?

    You get XP, which leads to shards, AFAIK.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735

    Day 3 without a solid answer after asking for clarification :(

  • MrsMaliciousX
    MrsMaliciousX Member Posts: 736
    Raccoon said:

    "Yes, definitely...."

    It's not mentioned here
    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Game_Ban

    or here
    https://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/16/1474222499230242023/

    The latter of which mentions botting and was originally posted by not_Queen.

    If you have a better source stating otherwise, please do post it up.

    Um if you want to de rank why not just let them do what they need to why do you need to be cloaked or Freddy.? I mean .are you trying to screw them as well...
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    Raccoon said:

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @RemoveSWF said:
    The only reason people are going AFK is to grind shards, duh.

    You do realize you don't get shards just from playing the matches anymore?

    You get XP, which leads to shards, AFAIK.

    But you don't get them just from simply playing the matches. You have to earn it like bloodpoints.
  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735

    I just tested....You do....

    https://imgur.com/a/UH5ITW3

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @Raccon you are misinterpreting what I'm trying to say.

    You do not gain shards from playing the matches. You get shards from leveling up your account level. The more you level up the more shards you get.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735

    You can earn small amounts of exp via good performance (emblem bonuses), but the bulk of it just comes from game time, AFAIK.

    You're still gaining shards through game time (including AFK), unless there's some way to end a match with 0 exp.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @Raccoon you gain EXP. You don't gain shards.

    EXP may lead to getting the shards but you do not gain shards from playing a match.

  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    I have seen no offical policy for AFK leading to bans, but I could see if you had got multiple reports against you for AFKing, it could lead to a ban. AFK happens for a variety of reasons. Real life happens, cannot be controlled. You can rank down without AFKing, its not that hard. Why ruin the enjoyment for the survivors because you want to derank.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735

    @lasombra1979 said:
    I have seen no offical policy for AFK leading to bans, but I could see if you had got multiple reports against you for AFKing, it could lead to a ban. AFK happens for a variety of reasons. Real life happens, cannot be controlled. You can rank down without AFKing, its not that hard. Why ruin the enjoyment for the survivors because you want to derank.

    A totally valid response and I appreciate the contribution.

    This line of thinking is why I think a definite answer is important.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735
    I've changed the title from "MOD HELP" to "DEV HELP" in hopes of getting a definite answer.
  • Outland
    Outland Member Posts: 535
    edited June 2018

    @Raccoon said:
    I just tested....You do....

    https://imgur.com/a/UH5ITW3

    HAHAHAHAHAH I love the screenies.

    You notice the only guy to say anything in the after game chat was the Guy with totally decked out perks and a flashlight with addons (in a rank 20 Killer game). He burned party streamers fully expecting to bully the Killer and make a Killing in BP's.

    But it looks like he spent the entire match looking for the Killer and not doing anything else because he only got 8k and depipped.

    Serves him right be being "THAT GUY"

    I love this experiment!!!!!

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Raccoon said:
    Is this a reportable offense?

    No, afking is only reportable if someone is body blocked in a corner and cant leave the game

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    edited June 2018

    @Aizeyu said:
    Depends on what they are doing when AFKing.
    As you said, they went AFK right from the spawn... if they were botting in any ways, then yes, we do not tolerate that.

    The hard part is, was it intentional? If you have seen the same person do it on multiple matches, I would report it.

    If you have seen them do it once, then, maybe they had no choice but to AFK to take care of an important matter.

    botting would mean that the killer runs around like an AI and does nothing, that is not afk though

    And btw, deranking via afk isnt bannable, in fact it is the only way to derank on a legit way since they got rid of slugging = depip (at least that is what a mod has told me in the steam forum)
    If you capture someone in a corner and bodyblock him, then go afk, then this is bannable indeed

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Outland said:
    My guess is looking to derank. Use Freddy if you are looking to do this. Other wise they'll just find your wraith and mess with him. But I'd guess reportable because you are not playing the game as intended.

    But if you move around and refuse to interact, then who's to say you are not just bad at Freddy.

    Game not playing as intended?
    I dont think that clicking at the killer to cause epilepsy was intended, so we gonna report that too? :wink:

  • Outland
    Outland Member Posts: 535

    @Master said:

    @Outland said:
    My guess is looking to derank. Use Freddy if you are looking to do this. Other wise they'll just find your wraith and mess with him. But I'd guess reportable because you are not playing the game as intended.

    But if you move around and refuse to interact, then who's to say you are not just bad at Freddy.

    Game not playing as intended?
    I dont think that clicking at the killer to cause epilepsy was intended, so we gonna report that too? :wink:

    I didn't think that being AFK was a rock solid reportable offense, so I tried to think if they could fit afking into their know reasons for reporting. The umbrella clause of "Not playing the game as intended" seems to fit, so I mentioned it.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735
    edited June 2018
    I just took a screenshot when they were in the lobby, watched YouTube, and came back after game.

    I didn't really notice their items .
  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735
    I'd really appreciate a Dev answer, as I've received conflicting interpretations from several Mods .
  • Outland
    Outland Member Posts: 535

    @Raccoon said:
    I'd really appreciate a Dev answer, as I've received conflicting interpretations from several Mods .

    After watching the experiment where the Wraith got exp from being afk, that seems to me to be a exploit. And it will probably be patched out. Until then I'd have to side on the reportable side now. Since you are clearly getting something for nothing.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735
    You could do the same for shards pre-2.0....

    I can see your point, though. 

    I'm hoping this can get clarified sometime soon. 

    This is day 4 O_O
  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735
    edited June 2018

    Am I asking for this clarification in the wrong place?

    I'm just trying to make sure I'm not breaking any rules, but no one seems capable of informing me as to whether this is bannable or not.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Outland said:

    @Raccoon said:
    I'd really appreciate a Dev answer, as I've received conflicting interpretations from several Mods .

    After watching the experiment where the Wraith got exp from being afk, that seems to me to be a exploit. And it will probably be patched out. Until then I'd have to side on the reportable side now. Since you are clearly getting something for nothing.

    @Outland said:

    @Raccoon said:
    I'd really appreciate a Dev answer, as I've received conflicting interpretations from several Mods .

    After watching the experiment where the Wraith got exp from being afk, that seems to me to be a exploit. And it will probably be patched out. Until then I'd have to side on the reportable side now. Since you are clearly getting something for nothing.

    You only gain exp if the survivors are tbagging in front of you and give you chase points, but thats on their side :lol:

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Raccoon said:
    Am I asking for this clarification in the wrong place?

    I'm just trying to make sure I'm not breaking any rules, but no one seems capable of informing me as to whether this is bannable or not.

    Let me tell you this. In the last months I have been regularly deranking by staying afk in the basement (without holding a survivor hostage) and nothing happened to me.
    Before I started that I asked in the steam forums and a mod told me that afk without a hostage situations would not be bannble (wasnt a dev though)

    Considering the time gens need to complete, this should not be a problem for survivors either. Just take your free points and finish the game quickly

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735
    Well, I'm just going to assume it's not at this point. 

    I'm sure if it was, someone would have stepped up and clarified it....it's not like I didn't try to seek guidance on the issue. 
  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,735

    @Sairek

    RESURRECTION!