Legion mains, ever feel like you can't catch a survivor? Well I ran some numbers on addons...
So I was testing a new legion build out against bots, and I always seemed to just be out of reach. Out of curiosity, I decided to run the numbers to see what addons actually help (apart from never-sleep pills we all know those work). Of course, these assume straight lines, no looping but you get the point.
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| No Addons | | Mural Sketch | | F.S Bracelet | | Both |
+======+========+ +===============+ +===============+ + ==============+
| Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters |
+======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+
| 0 | 52 | | 0 | 52 | | 0 | 62.4 | | 0 | 62.4 | | 1 | 54 | | 1 | 55 | | 1 | 64.8 | | 1 | 66 | | 2 | 56 | | 2 | 58 | | 2 | 67.2 | | 2 | 69.6 | | 3 | 58 | | 3 | 61 | | 3 | 67.6 | | 3 | 73.2 | | 4 | 60 | | 4 | 64 | | 4 | 72 | | 4 | 76.8 |
+======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+ +===============+
As you can see, F.S bracelets "mere" 2 seconds gains you just over an extra 10 meters, compared to Mural Sketch only catching up on the 4th hit, aka the "you're either gonna just down the guy you hit or you got stunned" hit.
Ignoring lunge and other factors (such as attack window which decelerates), that means you can start a frenzy and catch up and hit them if you start it or chain it at
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| No Addons | | Mural Sketch | | F.S Bracelet | | Both |
+======+========+ +===============+ +===============+ + ==============+
| Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters |
+======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+
| 0 | 12 | | 0 | 12 | | 0 | 14.4 | | 0 | 14.4 | | 1 | 14 | | 1 | 15 | | 1 | 16.8 | | 1 | 18 | | 2 | 16 | | 2 | 18 | | 2 | 19.2 | | 2 | 21.6 | | 3 | 18 | | 3 | 21 | | 3 | 21.6 | | 3 | 25.2 | | 4 | 20 | | 4 | 24 | | 4 | 24 | | 4 | 28.8 |
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( While these might seem low, do remember this is straight lines, acceleration ignored, quick attacks. A looping survivor may waste time or distance )
As explained and expected, the F.S bracelet gives you a massive headstart on distance and using the Mural Sketch for extra speed is worthless (without never-sleep) for distance, as at it's best it only just matches, while failing on every other step. However, when it comes to lunge distance, it can buy you an extra 0.54 meters ( Remember, Nemisis' T3 bonus is 1m extra distance. Any little bit can be the difference. ).
Speaking of lunges, lets do those too
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| No Addons | | Mischief List | | +Mural Sketch | | Friendship |
+======+=========+ +======+=========+ +======+=========+ | Bracelet does |
| Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | not increase |
+======+=========+ +======+=========+ +======+=========+ | speed or lunge |
| 0 | 4.68 | | 0 | 7.02 | | 0 | 7.02 | | | | 1 | 4.86 | | 1 | 7.29 | | 1 | 7.425 | | | | 2 | 5.04 | | 2 | 7.56 | | 2 | 7.83 | | | | 3 | 5.22 | | 3 | 7.83 | | 3 | 8.235 | | | | 4 | 5.4 | | 4 | 8.1 | | 4 | 8.64 | | |
+======+=========+ +======+=========+ +======+=========+ +================+
Which, if started at these distances, can hit;
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| No Addons | | Mischief List | | +Mural Sketch | | Friendship |
+======+=========+ +======+=========+ +======+=========+ | Bracelet does |
| Hits | Meters | | Hits | Neters | | Hits | Meters | | not increase |
+======+=========+ +======+=========+ +======+=========+ | speed or lunge |
| 0 | 2.28 | | 0 | 3.42 | | 0 | 3.42 | | | | 1 | 2.46 | | 1 | 3.69 | | 1 | 3.825 | | | | 2 | 2.64 | | 2 | 3.96 | | 2 | 4.23 | | | | 3 | 2.82 | | 3 | 4.23 | | 3 | 4.635 | | | | 4 | 3 | | 4 | 4.5 | | 4 | 5.04 | | |
+======+=========+ +======+=========+ +======+=========+ +================+
So there you go. If aiming for pure distance in a single addon, Friendship Bracelet is the best, but if you want giga lunge, Mischief List and Murai Sketch make Michael's lunge look like a ######### joke.
Just for completedness sake I also decided to run numbers on Never-sleep for those of you who swear by it.
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| No Addons | | Neversleep | | +F.S Bracelet | | +Mural Sketch |
+======+========+ +===============+ +===============+ + ==============+
| Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters |
+======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+
| 0 | 52 | | 0 | 92 | | 0 | 101.2 | | 0 | 92 | | 1 | 54 | | 1 | 96 | | 1 | 105.6 | | 1 | 107.8 | | 2 | 56 | | 2 | 100 | | 2 | 110 | | 2 | 114.4 | | 3 | 58 | | 3 | 104 | | 3 | 114.4 | | 3 | 121.0 | | 4 | 60 | | 4 | 108 | | 4 | 118.8 | | 4 | 127.6 |
+======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+ +===============+
Chasing a survivor you gain this much ground:
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| No Addons | | Neversleep | | +F.S Bracelet | | +Mural Sketch |
+======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+ + =====+========+
| Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters |
+======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+
| 0 | 12 | | 0 | 12 | | 0 | 13.2 | | 0 | 12 | | 1 | 14 | | 1 | 14 | | 1 | 17.6 | | 1 | 18 | | 2 | 16 | | 2 | 16 | | 2 | 22 | | 2 | 24 | | 3 | 18 | | 3 | 18 | | 3 | 26.4 | | 3 | 30 | | 4 | 20 | | 4 | 20 | | 4 | 30.8 | | 4 | 36 |
+======+========+ +======+========+ +======+========+ +===============+ < This actually > < surprised me. >
Lunges:
+================+ +===============+ +================+ +===============+
| No Addons | | Neversleep | | +Mischief list | | +Mural Sketch |
+======+=========+ +======+========+ +======+=========+ +===============+
| Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters |
+======+=========+ +======+========+ +======+=========+ +======+========+
| 0 | 4.68 | | 0 | 4.14 | | 0 | 6.21 | | 0 | 4.14 | | 1 | 4.86 | | 1 | 4.32 | | 1 | 6.48 | | 1 | 4.41 | | 2 | 5.04 | | 2 | 4.5 | | 2 | 6.75 | | 2 | 4.61 | | 3 | 5.22 | | 3 | 4.68 | | 3 | 7.02 | | 3 | 4.95 | | 4 | 5.4 | | 4 | 4.86 | | 4 | 7.29 | | 4 | 5.22 |
+======+========-+ +======+========+ +======+=========+ +================+
Against a fleeing survivor:
+===============+ +===============+ +================+ +===============+
| No Addons | | Neversleep | | +Mischief list | | +Mural Sketch |
+======+========+ +======+========+ +======+=========+ +===============+
| Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters | | Hits | Meters |
+======+========+ +======+========+ +======+=========+ +======+========+
| 0 | 2.28 | | 0 | 1.74 | | 0 | 2.61 | | 0 | 1.74 | | 1 | 2.46 | | 1 | 1.92 | | 1 | 2.88 | | 1 | 2.01 | | 2 | 2.64 | | 2 | 2.1 | | 2 | 3.15 | | 2 | 2.28 | | 3 | 2.82 | | 3 | 2.28 | | 3 | 3.42 | | 3 | 2.55 | | 4 | 3 | | 4 | 2.46 | | 4 | 3.69 | | 4 | 2.82 |
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And there you have it, a complete calculation of how Legion's addons affect his speed, both frenzying and lunging in frenzy. Of course, survivors can use this info too to identify safe distances against a lunge and whether to drop the pallet or keep running to make the Legion miss.
Comments
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I have no clue about Legion - but I'm somewhat curious: When you say "run the numbers" what exactly do you mean? Or more generally; how do you even do that? Is it numbers from the wiki or straight from the game files? (…I guess I'm asking for the methodology 😅)
[This is kinda off topic but might still be interesting for anyone being here because they're curious about Legion]
I also want to leave something here, since you seem to be a bit of Legion enthusiast: I highly recommend watching the Legion section of the US/EU-Japan showdown from yesterday (Host Hens, co-host Otz), if you haven't - my biggest takeaway from that one is that for the Japanese Legion the power was more of a strategic tool than a state of being. They got the most use out of the Oblivious add-on and regularly cancelled power right after M2; often used it just to know where to get a surprise hit on someone.
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The wiki uses stats and logic datamined from the game itself, so I used those mainly.
Distance made is simple. meters per second times the length of the frenzy
Catching up to a survivor is the same, just subtracting the distance a survivor would make
Lunging is killer speed * 1.5 and goes for 0.6 seconds normally. For a fleeing survivor it's the same deal, Distance you make in the lunge minus distance the survivor makes.
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