Some killers balance ideas + Daily ritual change
The title says all. Here i have some suggestions about some killers and the daily rituals. I wait for you opinions in the comments:
1) Hillbilly: Base move speed 105% - 110%. Why? A killer with 115% base movement speed that after became a 230% with an insta down it's so broken, also sometimes the chainsaw passes through the windows.
2) Legion: Base movement speed 115%. That's all, no other broken and annoying buffs for him. If the devs wants to fix Legion then i think this is the best idea.
3) Wraith: 100% invisible while cloaked (or at least make an add-on for it). Actually i think that the Wraith power is the most useless because the survivors can see you anyway and if you uncloack and the survivor has sprint burst then bye bye chase. #wraithneedsomelove
4) Pig: Bring back her base terror radius, 32m is too much for him.
Daily rituals:
It's so annoying when i cancel a killer daily ritual and i receive another one. The game obligates you to play something that you don't like (ex: you main killer and mostly of the times you receive survivor rituals or viceversa). When you cancel a daily ritual you should be asked something like "You want the new daily ritual to be for killer or for survivor?". If you chose killer then you will receive a random daily ritual for killer, same for survivor. You cant chose the ritual, it's random but at least you receive one for what you main.
Comments
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Billy doesn't need nerfed.
No to Wraith behind 100% invisible. That removes all counterplay to him. However, I think he should be much more difficult to see than he is now. He might as well not even cloak because it's so easy to spot him.
The other two, I don't really have an opinion on.0 -
@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Billy doesn't need nerfed.No to Wraith behind 100% invisible. That removes all counterplay to him. However, I think he should be much more difficult to see than he is now. He might as well not even cloak because it's so easy to spot him.
The other two, I don't really have an opinion on.
Billy does need a nerf, do you see normal a killer with normal base speed (115%) and with his power becames a 230% with and insta down?
With the Wraith you may be right
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1) 110% ms killers all have an ability that counters looping. The Hillbilly's though doesn't and he is susceptible to pallet looping like most other killers. I too think HB has too few downsides for the strenght of his power, but changing his ms wouldn't "fix" him
2) No. People already feel powerless against him during chases, giving him more base speed is just dumb.
3) As a Wraith main, I say no to this. Part of the skill of using him is to use cover and LoS blockers to go to survivors, "exploiting" the fact that survivors think they can spot you easily. If you go out in the open don't complain you got spot.
What I would like though is to reduce his visibility with distance, but since the last engine update it kinda does.Daily rituals are random, and the system is designed to make you go out of your comfort zone to get a reward.
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@White_Owl said:
1) 110% ms killers all have an ability that counters looping. The Hillbilly's though doesn't and he is susceptible to pallet looping like most other killers. I too think HB has too few downsides for the strenght of his power, but changing his ms wouldn't "fix" him
2) No. People already feel powerless against him during chases, giving him more base speed is just dumb.
3) As a Wraith main, I say no to this. Part of the skill of using him is to use cover and LoS blockers to go to survivors, "exploiting" the fact that survivors think they can spot you easily. If you go out in the open don't complain you got spot.
What I would like though is to reduce his visibility with distance, but since the last engine update it kinda does.Daily rituals are random, and the system is designed to make you go out of your comfort zone to get a reward.
1) His chainsaw that go through windows and sometimes through pallets doesn't counter looping? I don't think so. Also Spirit doesnt counters looping and is a 110% ms.
2) The Legion now is a tunneling machine and this is why people feels powerless against him, and now with him new buff more than than before. All he needs is a normal base speed and take down the new buff that makes him a more tunneling machine than before.
3) What are you talking about maybe works in grey-yellow rank, but be sure in green+ ranks people will see in a second the Wraith comming because you can't do anything to avoid this. Maybe 100% invisibily is too far, but he should me a lot more invisible than its now.
4) Read again my suggestion about the Daily rituals. The ritual will be random, you can't chose him. I really preffer doing a survivor ritual with a lvl 1 survivor than a killer ritual.0 -
giving billy %110 would make him unplayably bad
he has no way to consistently deal with loops, unlike every other %110 killer
stop acting like mobility is the only reason killers are slowed0 -
@yeet said:
giving billy %110 would make him unplayably bad
he has no way to consistently deal with loops, unlike every other %110 killer
stop acting like mobility is the only reason killers are slowed110% wouldnt make him unplayable, would make him balanced.
Spirit can counter looping? Start from when? She has 110% too.
230% mobility + insta down isn't a enough reason to slow him down? I don't think so. If you dont agree with 110% base speed then make him chainsaw speed only 120-130, 115% base + 230% insta down is way too broken.0 -
@Axelson said:
@yeet said:
giving billy %110 would make him unplayably bad
he has no way to consistently deal with loops, unlike every other %110 killer
stop acting like mobility is the only reason killers are slowed110% wouldnt make him unplayable, would make him balanced.
Spirit can counter looping? Start from when? She has 110% too.
230% mobility + insta down isn't a enough reason to slow him down? I don't think so. If you dont agree with 110% base speed then make him chainsaw speed only 120-130, 115% base + 230% insta down is way too broken.spirit can counter looping by mindgaming loops + being difficult to track when she's looping
110% would make billy terrible, period
he is fine as he is right now, he doesn't need further changes, he isn't broken at all
in fact every killer should be at his level
the fact that you think billy can consistently counter loops with the very rare chainsaw at a window is frankly absurd0 -
Its normal for melee attacks to go through windows, this applies to all m1 and m2 attacks.
Unlike legion or wraith, hillbilly still has a reduced steering in his sprint.
And yes hillbilly and lf should always hit survivors when they cut a pallet, they really need that fixed so they dont bump into the pallet instead.0 -
The opposite should happen, force players to get out of their confort zone and experience the game from both sides instead of 50% of the game.Axelson said:Daily rituals:
It's so annoying when i cancel a killer daily ritual and i receive another one. The game obligates you to play something that you don't like (ex: you main killer and mostly of the times you receive survivor rituals or viceversa). When you cancel a daily ritual you should be asked something like "You want the new daily ritual to be for killer or for survivor?". If you chose killer then you will receive a random daily ritual for killer, same for survivor. You cant chose the ritual, it's random but at least you receive one for what you main.
Should give those who main one side religiously a more nuanced and better perspective.0 -
@yeet said:
@Axelson said:
@yeet said:
giving billy %110 would make him unplayably bad
he has no way to consistently deal with loops, unlike every other %110 killer
stop acting like mobility is the only reason killers are slowed110% wouldnt make him unplayable, would make him balanced.
Spirit can counter looping? Start from when? She has 110% too.
230% mobility + insta down isn't a enough reason to slow him down? I don't think so. If you dont agree with 110% base speed then make him chainsaw speed only 120-130, 115% base + 230% insta down is way too broken.spirit can counter looping by mindgaming loops + being difficult to track when she's looping
110% would make billy terrible, period
he is fine as he is right now, he doesn't need further changes, he isn't broken at all
in fact every killer should be at his level
the fact that you think billy can consistently counter loops with the very rare chainsaw at a window is frankly absurdNot all spirit mains does mind games, we are talking about the killer, not about the players who uses it. Spirit cant go through palets / throw hatches / jump over them.
If you think Hillbilly is "balanced" with 115 base speed then Spirit would be perfect for it too, the only diference is that Spirit hasn't a insta down while using her power.
@ChesterTheMolester said:
Axelson said:Daily rituals:
It's so annoying when i cancel a killer daily ritual and i receive another one. The game obligates you to play something that you don't like (ex: you main killer and mostly of the times you receive survivor rituals or viceversa). When you cancel a daily ritual you should be asked something like "You want the new daily ritual to be for killer or for survivor?". If you chose killer then you will receive a random daily ritual for killer, same for survivor. You cant chose the ritual, it's random but at least you receive one for what you main.
The opposite should happen, force players to get out of their confort zone and experience the game from both sides instead of 50% of the game.
Should give those who main one side religiously a more nuanced and better perspective.
Better perspective for what? SWF bullying groups? If the 90% of the players wouldn't be that toxic then i will give you all the rights.
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I think that if the Legion had 115% movement speed they would be broken, they could just stop the Frenzy without having to worry about losing the survivor too much and reach them fairly quickly for an easy down, getting the first hit is already extremely easy as Legion.
I honestly would love the Wraith to be harder to see as a base and completely invisible with a Ultra Rare add-on.
I really don't know about the Pig, I think it's still too early to have a clear idea for me.
About the Hillbilly I'm really unsure, he is really strong but I don't know if lowering his movement speed to 110% would make him more balanced, he still has the chainsaw anyway.
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Billy is the most balanced killer out there and he is the example for any balanced killer. Only bad survivors who do a lot of mistakes whine about him.
You can loop him like any other killer, he is susceptible to being looped but in turn, if you make a mistake, he can punish it really hard.
A lot of people think that billy is really good and the second best killer out there but against good survivors tier list changes dramatically. I would say nurse, spirit, hag, huntress, hell even clown has more chance to get downs against good loopers who also genrush than billy.
Don't do a lot of mistakes, you are good to go against billies.
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Billy hitting through pallets or windows is a hitbox problem not base speed.
Yes spirit is very hard to loop since you can’t tell if she is phasing behind you or baiting.
Pig now has a bit more advantages with crouching and I think increased TR is for making crouching appealing so people actually use it more often.
I saw many wraiths who use their current cloaked version quite well. So complete invisibility could create more unskilled but successful wraiths around like Legions with purple addons.0 -
@Axelson said:
@yeet said:
@Axelson said:
@yeet said:
giving billy %110 would make him unplayably bad
he has no way to consistently deal with loops, unlike every other %110 killer
stop acting like mobility is the only reason killers are slowed110% wouldnt make him unplayable, would make him balanced.
Spirit can counter looping? Start from when? She has 110% too.
230% mobility + insta down isn't a enough reason to slow him down? I don't think so. If you dont agree with 110% base speed then make him chainsaw speed only 120-130, 115% base + 230% insta down is way too broken.spirit can counter looping by mindgaming loops + being difficult to track when she's looping
110% would make billy terrible, period
he is fine as he is right now, he doesn't need further changes, he isn't broken at all
in fact every killer should be at his level
the fact that you think billy can consistently counter loops with the very rare chainsaw at a window is frankly absurdNot all spirit mains does mind games, we are talking about the killer, not about the players who uses it. Spirit cant go through palets / throw hatches / jump over them.
If you think Hillbilly is "balanced" with 115 base speed then Spirit would be perfect for it too, the only diference is that Spirit hasn't a insta down while using her power.
@ChesterTheMolester said:
Axelson said:Daily rituals:
It's so annoying when i cancel a killer daily ritual and i receive another one. The game obligates you to play something that you don't like (ex: you main killer and mostly of the times you receive survivor rituals or viceversa). When you cancel a daily ritual you should be asked something like "You want the new daily ritual to be for killer or for survivor?". If you chose killer then you will receive a random daily ritual for killer, same for survivor. You cant chose the ritual, it's random but at least you receive one for what you main.
The opposite should happen, force players to get out of their confort zone and experience the game from both sides instead of 50% of the game.
Should give those who main one side religiously a more nuanced and better perspective.
Better perspective for what? SWF bullying groups? If the 90% of the players wouldn't be that toxic then i will give you all the rights.
if a spirit main isn't doing mindgames then they're a terrible spirit player, her kit is built for them
i'm sorry but if you think billy is OP then you're probably just a poor survivor0
