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Mixed messaging

Yharwick
Yharwick Member Posts: 521

It's been said on past dev streams they view the game as a 1v1v1v1v1 with MMR supporting this only caring about escapes and nothing regarding altruism. How ever BHVR just released a series of ads calling it a 4v1 in the title.

Isn't this mixed messaging? Why draw people in calling it a 4v1 when you don't view it that way and don calculate people's MMR that way? It's not a huge deal but it does feel disingenuous to me given what we know the devs have said previously.

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  • HexHuntressThighs
    HexHuntressThighs Member Posts: 1,245

    I think it’s just a misunderstanding lol, it’s a 4v1 but they see it as multiple 1v1s when it comes to chases. But I don’t think they thought about body blocks and things like that. Also I don’t think that ad is even live because you can’t access it without the link and it has the aspect ratio and stuff in the title

  • Archael
    Archael Member Posts: 838

    Not really. It is not 1v4, tho it can be seen that from killer perspective. From survivor perspective (and devs, and me, and lot of other players) its 1v(1v1v1v1) because every survivor is not only competing against killer but also other survivors, and even if killer loose a match having only 1 kill, this one surv also lost a match, even tho his "team" technically won.

  • BlightedDolphin
    BlightedDolphin Member Posts: 1,875
    edited April 8

    It is 4v1.

    1v1v1v1v1 was just an oversimplification of how MMR works and they didn’t mean that it was every one versus each other.

    As far as I can remember, they never said they view the game as 1v1v1v1v1, but everyone’s MMR is calculated as a separate 1v1. And literally all that means is if you kill a survivor, you win that 1v1 and gain MMR and the survivor loses it. If they escape, they gain MMR and the killer loses it.

    The game is 4v1, MMR is just calculated that way so that you aren’t penalised for your team dying or so a terrible survivor doesn’t gain MMR despite the rest of the team escaping.

    I do think some form of teammate MMR should be accounted for (e.g, if your teammates MMR is way below the killers then you shouldn’t lose as much for losing). MMR is pretty bad and could use some work, but it doesn’t make the game not a 4v1.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,517

    The game is kind of both. Survivors need to work together in order to escape but individually each survivor is capable of losing/winning individually. If it was truly a 1v4 then all survivors would lose or win together at the end of the game instead of separately.

  • crogers271
    crogers271 Member Posts: 1,821

    I think the point most people miss is that the devs don't think there is one right way to view the game. Want to play it as a solo survivor? Go ahead. Want to play as a team? Go ahead. They have MMR, BP, and pips that all have various rewards built into them.

    As a killer you are definitely facing 4 survivors. How the survivors view each other isn't really relevant to how the killer views them.

  • GentlemanFridge
    GentlemanFridge Member Posts: 5,714

    How did you find this??

    The video is hidden?

  • ReverseVelocity
    ReverseVelocity Member Posts: 4,557

    This is kinda unrelated but seeing Huntress run at like a full sprint in that video is kind of jarring LMFAO.

  • Krazzik
    Krazzik Member Posts: 2,475

    It's a 4v1 game, but in terms of how the matchmaking system calculates your MMR, it uses a 1v1, 1v1, 1v1, 1v1 approach.

  • Yharwick
    Yharwick Member Posts: 521

    uuuuhhhh it was a sponsored ad on youtube.

    It's difficult to find if you're actually looking for it but putting in "play dbd ad" seems to make it come up. There's another one with billy on coldwind but I can't find that one.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,669

    It’s balanced as a 1v1v1v1v1 but in reality it’s a 1v4, hence where all the balance problems come from. It needs to be balanced as a 1v4.