Visit the Kill Switch Master List for more information on these and other current known issues: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/299-kill-switch-master-list
We encourage you to be as honest as possible in letting us know how you feel about the game. The information and answers provided are anonymous, not shared with any third-party, and will not be used for purposes other than survey analysis.
Access the survey HERE!
Ranking is too easy?
Is there anyone else struggling with the fact that ranking is too easy? Is there even a way to go down in ranks that's not just standing around AFK-ing? I'm a pretty casual player and I just started playing after about 7 months of being away--now I keep double-pipping after matches as a survivor and pipping as a killer, even though I barely get more than one sacrifice?
I'd really love to play with/against people who are my actual skill level, not people who can run circles around me? Any advice other than git gud?
Comments
-
Unless you afk in a corner or end up facing a super coordinated genrushing team, it's impossible to derank as killer.
The only way to derank as survivor is to end up at the receiving end of a hard-camping tunneler.The ranking system overall is literal garbage.
5 -
There's people who'll still run circles around you in the higher ranks. They're the people de-ranking/smurfing to bully newbies.
1 -
This content has been removed.
-
Stop making excusesfluffybunny said:There's people who'll still run circles around you in the higher ranks. They're the people de-ranking/smurfing to bully newbies.
0 -
You tryna say Legion is OP?Myerinodudd said:They should nerf Legion's rank system.You always rank up no matter what1 -
Yes, ranking up is too easy. But with the still-current matchmaking system (to be replaced with a new one soon), it's kind of a necessity. If there weren't a lot of high rank players, those people who belong in the high ranks would have too long lobby waiting times.
0 -
@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Myerinodudd said:They should nerf Legion's rank system.You always rank up no matter what
You tryna say Legion is OP?
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8\8
0 -
This content has been removed.
-
Ranking took some effort with release emblems but it was too much for casuals so it was changed so its almost impossible to derank.0
-
Oh, I thought you were trying to say Legion is OP (they aren't even close) lol.Myerinodudd said:
Play legion.You dont need to kill anybody you always rank up just try it.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
You tryna say Legion is OP?Myerinodudd said:They should nerf Legion's rank system.You always rank up no matter what0 -
What did I say that was bait? Legion clearly is FAR from OP.micsan said:@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Myerinodudd said:They should nerf Legion's rank system.You always rank up no matter what
You tryna say Legion is OP?
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8\8
0 -
At the end of last month I was easily pipping and felt uncomfortable with the rank the game claimed I was at because I'm not a great killer.
This month, after the rank reset I'm getting my hag bottom handed to me every game because of elite rank 15 survivors.
I agree that It needs to be harder to rank up and harder to rank down.
0 -
@mintchapstick said:
Is there anyone else struggling with the fact that ranking is too easy? Is there even a way to go down in ranks that's not just standing around AFK-ing? I'm a pretty casual player and I just started playing after about 7 months of being away--now I keep double-pipping after matches as a survivor and pipping as a killer, even though I barely get more than one sacrifice?I'd really love to play with/against people who are my actual skill level, not people who can run circles around me? Any advice other than git gud?
haha nice...
"Is there a way to go down in ranks"....
"I'm a pretty casual player".... "now I keep double-pipping after matches as a survivor and pipping as a killer, even though I barely get more then one sacrifice"....
Then this....
"I'd really love to play with / against people who are my actual skill level"...
So?.... Are you pipping or not pipping?... Cause from what I know... If you are better then the people you are playing, you'll usually rank up... So... What is the issue?.. Not playing against the EASIER opponents... AHH.... nice.. forgot.. Deranking to face easier opponents... GGs
Sure it is easy to rank up.. but if you were playing against people that are better or same skill... then wouldn't you just rank up on average and not "i keep double-pipping... etc..." ??
So play at higher ranks where you'd play against more skilled players... or play in the lower rank with lower skilled players.... Makes no sense to say you find it easy to pip up and then complain about not playing against people your own skill level...
This must be a troll or bait post.
0 -
@TheBean said:
@mintchapstick said:
Is there anyone else struggling with the fact that ranking is too easy? Is there even a way to go down in ranks that's not just standing around AFK-ing? I'm a pretty casual player and I just started playing after about 7 months of being away--now I keep double-pipping after matches as a survivor and pipping as a killer, even though I barely get more than one sacrifice?I'd really love to play with/against people who are my actual skill level, not people who can run circles around me? Any advice other than git gud?
haha nice...
"Is there a way to go down in ranks"....
"I'm a pretty casual player".... "now I keep double-pipping after matches as a survivor and pipping as a killer, even though I barely get more then one sacrifice"....
Then this....
"I'd really love to play with / against people who are my actual skill level"...
So?.... Are you pipping or not pipping?... Cause from what I know... If you are better then the people you are playing, you'll usually rank up... So... What is the issue?.. Not playing against the EASIER opponents... AHH.... nice.. forgot.. Deranking to face easier opponents... GGs
Sure it is easy to rank up.. but if you were playing against people that are better or same skill... then wouldn't you just rank up on average and not "i keep double-pipping... etc..." ??
So play at higher ranks where you'd play against more skilled players... or play in the lower rank with lower skilled players.... Makes no sense to say you find it easy to pip up and then complain about not playing against people your own skill level...
This must be a troll or bait post.
He barely gets more than 1 sacrifice and is still pipping, you're making a whole antagonizing statement trying to prove a point that doesn't exist, calm down. Last I checked, 1 sacrifice isn't gg for the killer point and skill wise.
Anyway,
OP, I understand your issue, but no matter what you do you will always get survivors who depipped to join low rank games (even if they are above those ranks skill-wise) running circles around you so just take your pips and play the game. If you have skilled friends who can teach you the ways of being a decent killer/survivor then ask them to help you get better.1 -
@Kurisataru said:
He barely gets more than 1 sacrifice and is still pipping, you're making a whole antagonizing statement trying to prove a point that doesn't exist, calm down. Last I checked, 1 sacrifice isn't gg for the killer point and skill wise.
Oh yeah.. cause they must 4K for it to be a GG... You do know you can white pip without even killing anyone?.... They never removed that.
If you are pipping up against the other side you can't be doing that bad. The ranking system is harder then it was... Harder then the 10K you used to have to get.... Or the killer cube of 2 kills... So how hard do players want to make it?.. so there is only 5 people in the top ranks so no one gets games in higher rank play anymore?
Geez... I would rather the op have said... I can't get even a black pip since I haven't played in a few months... Not how easy it is to rank up then complain they aren't playing against people their own skill level.
The idea of not doing well even though you barely get a sacrifice but still pipping (even a black pip) is beyond me.
ANYWAYS......
0 -
I'm glad my anyways offended you, that's precisely what I wanted, but anyways (again),
you're still making Phd thesis' to make a point that doesn't exist, you're arguing your assumption that OP needs "easier" targets and not people of his skill level like he said. You're turning this whole discussion now about how the ranking system is fine rather than staying on the real topic because you want to talk trash. Now with that being said, you can throw me more salt diamonds and I really don't care for it because I'm not going to help you throw this thread out of topic.0 -
@Kurisataru said:
I'm glad my anyways offended you, that's precisely what I wanted, but anyways (again),
you're still making Phd thesis' to make a point that doesn't exist, you're arguing your assumption that OP needs "easier" targets and not people of his skill level like he said. You're turning this whole discussion now about how the ranking system is fine rather than staying on the real topic because you want to talk trash. Now with that being said, you can throw me more salt diamonds and I really don't care for it because I'm not going to help you throw this thread out of topic.Explain to me then why someone who is ranking up against the other side is playing against people that are more skilled and a better players then them?
Please explain that to me.
Explain to me... How... If the ranking system used to be where you only have to 10K against the otherside.. or just get 2 kills against the otherside is easier or harder then the current ranking system?
I mean you seem to be the enlightened one...
So please explain how the ranking system.. Which isn't too hard to rank up in, especially if you just keep playing the game allot, constantly pits you against players who are less skilled then you, while you are ranking up in it?
Please explain why a survivor who is at rank 10 is more skilled the the player who is a rank 4? (Without using the smurfing, SWF, or people who intentionally derank to face lower skilled players.) Just the raw comparison of a solo rank 10 person to a rank 4 person on the same side.
You're anyways didn't offend. I made me laugh... Cause when I was a little kid long ago, I used that term allot, and people would mock me cause of how unintelligent it comes across when you follow up things with... Anyways...
0 -
The ranking system is a joke
0 -
we need more pips slots , this way will be more acurrate. END.
0 -
In theory, more pip slots will make it so skill levels are more spread out, and thus neither side can be carried. Then, a simple adjustment to how pips are gained can fix pips being "handed for free".
0 -
@Orion said:
In theory, more pip slots will make it so skill levels are more spread out, and thus neither side can be carried. Then, a simple adjustment to how pips are gained can fix pips being "handed for free".
As long as playing is the only thing you need to do, that doesnt change anything.
The only thing that will change is that you just need to spend more time grinding to rank 1, but that has nothign to do with skill.We probably need both adjustments yeah
0 -
@Master said:
@Orion said:
In theory, more pip slots will make it so skill levels are more spread out, and thus neither side can be carried. Then, a simple adjustment to how pips are gained can fix pips being "handed for free".
As long as playing is the only thing you need to do, that doesnt change anything.
The only thing that will change is that you just need to spend more time grinding to rank 1, but that has nothign to do with skill.We probably need both adjustments yeah
Like I said, after separating skill levels, adjustments can be made to how pips are gained.
0 -
In theory, more pip slots will make it so skill levels are more spread out, and thus neither side can be carried. Then, a simple adjustment to how pips are gained can fix pips being "handed for free".
Pip slots?
0 -
@AlwaysInAGoodShape said:
@OrionIn theory, more pip slots will make it so skill levels are more spread out, and thus neither side can be carried. Then, a simple adjustment to how pips are gained can fix pips being "handed for free".
Pip slots?
If I understood @laKUKA correctly, they're either referring to requiring more pips per rank or more ranks overall. Either way, the same principle applies.
0 -
Yes. Emblems are stupid and need a major overhaul. You pip as Survivor by doing 1 gen and rescuing one person and you're basically guarenteed a safety pip as Killer.
Moving on.0 -
Ah I see.
There's a problem with that though.
If definition = more ranks overall:
This will just cause rank to be a longer seasonal grind.If definition = more Emblem points to get a PIP, then this will not make the game more competitive. It will just make the players team with the opposite faction more often, as that is the most beneficial way to gain PIPs in this game, as shown in example:
(Chapter 1, Section 3: "You are not in a real competition")
What the Devs should do instead is make this game a Survivors VS Killer game, instead of having survivors and killers be a team. (By introducing an Emblem system with a competitive axis, as defined in Chapter 1, Section 2: The competitive axis)
0 -
The DEVS are lazy.... the fast way to fix this, is more pips slots
Change the entire emblem system gonna take forever....0 -
I'm just here to respond to the title...
Yes.0 -
@laKUKA said:
The DEVS are lazy.... the fast way to fix this, is more pips slots
Change the entire emblem system gonna take forever....More PIP slots doesn't actually fix anything, so it's right for the Devs not to waste time on such a solution.
0 -
Currently:
0-5 points = depip
6-8 points = safety pip
9-13 points = 1 pip
14-16 points = double pip.They should make it more like that:
0-11 = depip
12-15 points = pip
16 points = double pipAnd adjust the Emblems a bit, especially Chaser, Malicious, Evader and Benevolent.
0 -
I literally just made a post about this on Reddit. I'm having the same issue. I'm a pretty mediocre player but I play a lot, because I don't really have any other games I'm into at the moment. I rank up too fast and I do a bad job when I'm there.
And for the people saying that pipping means you're doing "well," that's really not true. And therein lies the issue. You earn pips for doing virtually nothing. And that's the crux of the problem. Pipping should be more difficult and have more stringent requirements.
1 -
@TheBean said:
@Kurisataru said:
He barely gets more than 1 sacrifice and is still pipping, you're making a whole antagonizing statement trying to prove a point that doesn't exist, calm down. Last I checked, 1 sacrifice isn't gg for the killer point and skill wise.
Oh yeah.. cause they must 4K for it to be a GG... You do know you can white pip without even killing anyone?.... They never removed that.
If you are pipping up against the other side you can't be doing that bad. The ranking system is harder then it was... Harder then the 10K you used to have to get.... Or the killer cube of 2 kills... So how hard do players want to make it?.. so there is only 5 people in the top ranks so no one gets games in higher rank play anymore?
Geez... I would rather the op have said... I can't get even a black pip since I haven't played in a few months... Not how easy it is to rank up then complain they aren't playing against people their own skill level.
The idea of not doing well even though you barely get a sacrifice but still pipping (even a black pip) is beyond me.
ANYWAYS......
Let me clarify: it isn't just that I get roughly one sacrifice per match, it's that I'm bad enough at killer that probably 8/10 of my swings don't even hit the person that I'm swinging at--they can be like a foot in front of me and I can't hit them to save my life. A survivor has to truly belong between rank 18 - rank 20 for me to actually catch them.
Yet I keep ranking up as killer and most of my matches keep putting me with survivors that are even higher than my already too high rank. I have less than10 hours as killer and I just learned how to lunge attack, which I couldn't figure out before, even in the tutorial.
So yeah, I'm not good enough to keep going up ranks--it isn't some kind of humble brag. I'm literally struggling with the basic mechanics of the game, but I still keep ranking up.
0
