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The Legion and rage quits.

CreeRoyalty
CreeRoyalty Member Posts: 68
in General Discussions
I get it boys and girls...you see the legion more than any killer. They're buffed a little too much and it sucks. I understand. That's why you see videos all over to YouTube and the reason you see him/her 75%+ of the time. However, he/she can be beaten though so why DC just because you're the first one to get cut or hooked? It hurts you as ut gives no bloodpoints and takes you down a rank and isn't that really what it's all about? Getting BPs and going up in rank? You might not survive but as long as you're progressing that's all he that matters. I'm sick of one or two people DCing every game leaving the rest of us at an extreme disadvantage.

Comments

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,296
    I think it has more to do with the legion not being fun to play against, yes they can be beaten and easily at times but the mechanics of them are just tedious.

    It's akin to killers dodging lobbies for certain items or swf but survivors dont have that option and for good reason.
  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    Well, some survivors want to have a chance to actually win a chase.
    Legion will down you. It will take some time if they dont have Frank's Mix Tape but still you cannot do much against that.

  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    When a match last 25 minutes because a Legion is guarding three generators and stabbing anyone that gets close, you really end up inspiring survivors to DC rather than play.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    I don't DC ever unless body blocks/hacks, how ever having a legion run backwards and you having no chance to do anything is the most boring thing ever, it's not fun to play against and I can understand why some people do DC from it.

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,095
    edited January 2019

    I never dodge a Legion lobby. That's an easy escape. Makes for a tedious (not challenging) match with all the mending/healing baloney. But still an easy escape.

  • Star99er
    Star99er Member Posts: 1,462
    PBlackII said:

    Basically:

    Notice how Leatherface isn’t on this list.😂😂

    No one likes the King of Hook camping.
  • xXNurseXx
    xXNurseXx Member Posts: 261

    @PBlackII said:
    Basically:

    Switch Nurse with Pig

  • rafajsp
    rafajsp Member Posts: 475
    edited January 2019
    Killer has the option to dodge lobbies, you know right ?
    Survivor has DC.
    Specially vs a bad designed killer.
    Not your fault, not their fault either.
    Also DC doesn't mean rage quit, just a "I don't have to play vs this".
    Move on.
  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    @se05239 said:
    When a match last 25 minutes because a Legion is guarding three generators and stabbing anyone that gets close, you really end up inspiring survivors to DC rather than play.

    Wait doesn't Doctor also do that?

  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    @Milo said:

    @se05239 said:
    When a match last 25 minutes because a Legion is guarding three generators and stabbing anyone that gets close, you really end up inspiring survivors to DC rather than play.

    Wait doesn't Doctor also do that?

    Not to the same extent, no. I rather have a three genning Doctor than a three genning Legion.

  • Vortexas
    Vortexas Member Posts: 757

    Legion is my new SWF buster.

    I see a SWF group, I go Legion.

  • BBQnDemogorgon
    BBQnDemogorgon Member Posts: 3,615

    @Onionthing said:
    Legion's creation makes me smile:

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't tunnel?

    Killers: What? This is a awful idea ...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't instant down you?

    Killers: Okay but we will need some outplay mechanics or...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't have traps/invisibility or other mind game gimmicks?

    Killers: Wait.. what? How are we supposed to...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't get much use out of the most common "broken" perks out there like NOED?

    Killers: Devs you can't seriously be listening to this garbage right? Cause..

    Devs: Here we go friends, a non tunnel, non insta-down, just gotta run fast, time wasting troll as ordered

    Survivors: This isn't very fun :(

    Killers: /facepalm

    Just make a 110%/4.4 ms killer that can only frenzy hit without the sprinting or vaulting parts. Make DW not drain in terror radius either.

    EZ.

    What survivor would complain about a hag/huntress/spirit or legion that takes 3-4 M1 hits to down that can't use teleports, hatchets, haunting or vaults? xD

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873

    @Onionthing said:
    Legion's creation makes me smile:

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't tunnel?

    Killers: What? This is a awful idea ...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't instant down you?

    Killers: Okay but we will need some outplay mechanics or...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't have traps/invisibility or other mind game gimmicks?

    Killers: Wait.. what? How are we supposed to...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't get much use out of the most common "broken" perks out there like NOED?

    Killers: Devs you can't seriously be listening to this garbage right? Cause..

    Devs: Here we go friends, a non tunnel, non insta-down, just gotta run fast, time wasting troll as ordered

    Survivors: This isn't very fun :(

    Killers: /facepalm

    Typical. Always assuming that killer mains are right. I was a neutral player but now I'm a killer main (solo survivor is so boring) but I don't agree with you thinking killer mains have the moral high ground. They don't there are lots of survivor mains who have common sense too.

  • Freudentrauma
    Freudentrauma Member Posts: 1,053
    edited January 2019

    @Onionthing said:
    Legion's creation makes me smile:

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't tunnel?

    Killers: What? This is a awful idea ...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't instant down you?

    Killers: Okay but we will need some outplay mechanics or...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't have traps/invisibility or other mind game gimmicks?

    Killers: Wait.. what? How are we supposed to...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't get much use out of the most common "broken" perks out there like NOED?

    Killers: Devs you can't seriously be listening to this garbage right? Cause..

    Devs: Here we go friends, a non tunnel, non insta-down, just gotta run fast, time wasting troll as ordered

    Survivors: This isn't very fun :(

    Killers: /facepalm

    Legion's creation was more like:

    Community: A killer that can vault would be niece.

    Devs start creating Legion.

    After some internal playtesting
    Devs: Hmm seem a little bit op without much counterplay. Needs some downsides

    Devs design frenzy stun, timer and Deep Wound.

    Devs: Looks fine. Let's put them in the PTB

    PTB starts.

    Community: Legion is weak. Please buff them.

    Devs: Not every Killer needs to be high tier. They should be fun. Stabbing and vaulting pallets is fun, right? But we will give them some tweaks.

    Devs continue doing QoL changes to Legion.

    Meanwhile:

    Killers: Spreading hits is impossible. But wait, I can actually easily down people with Franks mixtape and/or Moonwalking. And the only thing I need to learn is how to look down and respect pallets.

    Survivors (facing Legion currently): DC

    The problem of Legion isn't survivor created. There was a nice idea for a killer power, which doesn't work out that well, as it seemed like on paper.

  • Onionthing
    Onionthing Member Posts: 469

    @Poweas said:
    Typical. Always assuming that killer mains are right. I was a neutral player but now I'm a killer main (solo survivor is so boring) but I don't agree with you thinking killer mains have the moral high ground. They don't there are lots of survivor mains who have common sense too.

    And that's the beauty of it all. I can make jokes and you don't have to agree or find them very funny. If believing what you believe helps you feel cozy at night. more power to ya.

    @Freudentrauma said:
    Stuff was said

    Seriously guys ... lighten up ... please ... I worry for your health

  • Beverly
    Beverly Member Posts: 184

    I don't find the Legion to be boring or unfun. Honestly, I have a bigger problem with the people that play them. Most people I see playing them swing their weapon constantly to catch up quicker and will swing their weapon while carrying you to utilize Mad Grit. It feels really sweaty to me, but idk. Other than that, I'm not sure why they've gotten as much hate as they have.

  • Dokta_Carter
    Dokta_Carter Member Posts: 614
    edited January 2019
    rafajsp said:
    Killer has the option to dodge lobbies, you know right ?
    Survivor has DC.
    Specially vs a bad designed killer.
    Not your fault, not their fault either.
    Also DC doesn't mean rage quit, just a "I don't have to play vs this".
    Move on.
    So...
    Your defending a a killer lobby dodging?
    Are you serious? Lobby dodging is stupid.
    Please tell me your trolling.
    Dcing may not be rage quiting but it RUINS the game in progress. For the other survivors and the killer.
    Lobby dodging prevents a game. Just as bad.
    Both screws with people.
    Dont advocate for ether please
  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873

    @Onionthing said:

    @Poweas said:
    Typical. Always assuming that killer mains are right. I was a neutral player but now I'm a killer main (solo survivor is so boring) but I don't agree with you thinking killer mains have the moral high ground. They don't there are lots of survivor mains who have common sense too.

    And that's the beauty of it all. I can make jokes and you don't have to agree or find them very funny. If believing what you believe helps you feel cozy at night. more power to ya.

    @Freudentrauma said:
    Stuff was said

    Seriously guys ... lighten up ... please ... I worry for your health

    Oh it was a joke. My bad.

  • JanTheMan
    JanTheMan Member Posts: 495
    Onionthing said:

    Legion's creation makes me smile:

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't tunnel?

    Killers: What? This is a awful idea ...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't instant down you?

    Killers: Okay but we will need some outplay mechanics or...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't have traps/invisibility or other mind game gimmicks?

    Killers: Wait.. what? How are we supposed to...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't get much use out of the most common "broken" perks out there like NOED?

    Killers: Devs you can't seriously be listening to this garbage right? Cause..

    Devs: Here we go friends, a non tunnel, non insta-down, just gotta run fast, time wasting troll as ordered

    Survivors: This isn't very fun :(

    Killers: /facepalm

    So frickin accurate XD
  • NekoGamerX
    NekoGamerX Member Posts: 5,298

    I don't try to quit when it a Legion there alway a way to get around him or her thing I like to know it why most that play joey are jerks a little.

  • mintchapstick
    mintchapstick Member Posts: 891
    edited January 2019

    @Beverly said:
    I don't find the Legion to be boring or unfun. Honestly, I have a bigger problem with the people that play them. Most people I see playing them swing their weapon constantly to catch up quicker and will swing their weapon while carrying you to utilize Mad Grit. It feels really sweaty to me, but idk. Other than that, I'm not sure why they've gotten as much hate as they have.

    Mad Grit only works if the weapon is actually connecting with another survivor, otherwise they're just wasting their time.

    Also, I play Legion a lot, and people who disconnect against him are mostly SWF who think they can't control the match. I get more d/cs as the doctor than I do as Legion, though.

  • AlexAnarchy
    AlexAnarchy Member Posts: 685

    @Dwight_Fairfield said:
    I never dodge a Legion lobby. That's an easy escape. Makes for a tedious (not challenging) match with all the mending/healing baloney. But still an easy escape.

    This 100%, I mean survivors literally got what they wanted with legion, a killer who cannot down them easily if at all but hey...it really shows survivors skill level when they ca'nt even escape a killer who's not looking at them.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    CreeRoyalty said:
    I get it boys and girls...you see the legion more than any killer. They're buffed a little too much and it sucks. I understand. That's why you see videos all over to YouTube and the reason you see him/her 75%+ of the time. However, he/she can be beaten though so why DC just because you're the first one to get cut or hooked? It hurts you as ut gives no bloodpoints and takes you down a rank and isn't that really what it's all about? Getting BPs and going up in rank? You might not survive but as long as you're progressing that's all he that matters. I'm sick of one or two people DCing every game leaving the rest of us at an extreme disadvantage.
    Legion is not too strong, he bis annoying to face. 
    Survivors don't dc against doc because he is OP either .... 
  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886
    edited January 2019

    @Onionthing said:
    Legion's creation makes me smile:

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't tunnel?

    Killers: What? This is a awful idea ...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't instant down you?

    Killers: Okay but we will need some outplay mechanics or...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't have traps/invisibility or other mind game gimmicks?

    Killers: Wait.. what? How are we supposed to...

    Survivors: Can we have a killer that doesn't get much use out of the most common "broken" perks out there like NOED?

    Killers: Devs you can't seriously be listening to this garbage right? Cause..

    Devs: Here we go friends, a non tunnel, non insta-down, just gotta run fast, time wasting troll as ordered

    Survivors: This isn't very fun :(

    Killers: /facepalm

    Except Legion is one of the best tunnelers in the game, and is faster and more manueverable than any survivor.

  • The_Trapper
    The_Trapper Member Posts: 186

    @NekoGamerX said:
    I don't try to quit when it a Legion there alway a way to get around him or her thing I like to know it why most that play joey are jerks a little.

    Joey is a cocky guy, so it makes sense I suppose.

  • The_Trapper
    The_Trapper Member Posts: 186

    Feels more like survivors DC when they go against the killer they simply don't like. Seen it happen with Legion, Myers, Nurse and Hillbilly.

    I think it's just the killers style that completely counters how that specific survivor plays, that or they just suck.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886

    I used to want to DC every time I heard Freddy's song. The guy was seriously frustrating to go against for a long time until I figured out how to play against him. I lost to him every time and couldn't beat him until around 200 hours in.

  • TigerKirby215
    TigerKirby215 Member Posts: 604

    They weren't buffed.
    On topic: Legion is very exploitable and uncounterable in that way, and that makes them unfun to play against.