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Why does learning new killers in this game feel like such a pain
So I wanted to play the Unknown for the first time today. Bought his DLC when it came out but never really gotten around to playing him.
Equipped some perks and loaded into the first match: SWF Bully squad with Head ons, Flashbangs, 4 BNP that sent me to the game, started genrushing me while I was still figuring out the killer until 1 gen was left and then went into hiding for 20 minutes. Managed to find 3 persons and chase them but fell into the flashbang traps 3 times and they disappeared. After 20 minutes finally one of them had enough, they did the last gen and opened the gates.
Next game: SWF switching in the last second to 4 claudettes, sent me to Toba Landing. Their builds: Lucky Break, lightweigt, Iron Will. You can imagine how long that game lastet and how it went.
3rd game: Again an SWF with 6-8k hours each. Me 3rd match on unknown. They got bored, so they got toxic towards the end after they absolutely destroyed me. I actually quit after the third match cause my will and excitement to try to learn unknown is basically gone after those games.
I really dont get why it always is this way, at least for me. Had more or less the same happen when I tried to learn Nurse, which I had never really played before, that I suddenly got only absolutey cracked groups. Same when I recently learned Xeno. I just dont get why the SBMM apparently doesnt take into account that you play a killer for the first time and puts you into milder waters to start with and not at the top so you can work you way down by constantly getting destroyed.
Also I dont get the survivors in this instance. There is a lot of crying on this forum that everyone apparently only plays against the same broken killers. But when the survivors get a killer that not many people play and realise that the killer isnt good (yet) many see that as a sign to be suddenly toxic af toward you to apparently pay you back for all the pain they experienced by killers over the years.
I just feel like it shouldnt be such a pain in this game to learn a new killer. Like the amount of toxicness you have to endure until ur good enough just sucks.
And yeah I know there are bot games and I played a few to get a feeling for his power. But Bot Games are only helpful to a certain degree to truly learn a killer.
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Hopefully after a few games your MMR for that killer will normalize and allow you to learn. It's really not friendly for learning new abilities. It sucks but it does go both ways. Survivors are often paired against someone who has mastered one of those rare to see killers. Then they have no idea how to play against their abilities because they rarely play against that killer.
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Play The Unknown in a custom match first to practice him without stress. When you are confident enough in yourself, jump into a public game.
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Unfortunately your ranking on a new killer is only 700 or so below your killer average... so if you're a God on several other killers that will bring you vs. stronger teams.
My own advice would be, while loading in before you start the game say out loud to yourself "kills don't matter". Remember you're here to learn the killer, not win games. Playing vs. strong survivors is actually what you want if you really want to get good at the killer.
So don't be disheartened, use this time to play rather chill and experiment with things. If something doesn't work, don't get upset about it, that's what you're here for, to try stuff out.
I play like this 24/7, I deliberatly take builds that aren't meta and just see how well I can do. It's amazing how resilient you can be to even the most toxic teams when you've already said to yourself "I'm handicapping myself in order to learn, big deal of you beat me".
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Good advise is don't expect to win. When I was learning Blight (still learn him honestly), I expected losing a lot. But I was so exited to feel I'm getting better and better with him every match.
I know killer role is stressful af, especially for new players, but from height of my experience, I promise, that desire to win no matter what is ruining everything for you in this game. Be still, quite, take your time to do and try anything you want. Expect to win, when you will feel really confidence with your killer.
Also, many people won't agree with me, but Unknown doesn't worth time wasting on him. His teleport is way better than his main power and you definately don't expect to constantly hit m2 on good survivors. But wish you luck and patience anyway!2 -
Well imagine if you stomped every game and mastered a Killer in your first game playing them. That would be pretty boring and meaningless, wouldn't it? The fun is in the journey. You can't let a few rough games your very first time playing get to you. If you're not having fun, just take a break and change your mindset and try it again with a new perspective. Don't take toxicity personally, it really doesn't mean anything about you negatively as a person. Just a bunch of kids being immature or just having fun to themselves. Focus on your game and not the other side judging you, just have fun on your own terms. Good luck and keep at it.
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Pro tip, the time of day your play has an impact on the quality of your matches. Playing after midnight is a death sentence if you're playing killer in my region, you only meet extremely serious survivors with thousands of hours. Whereas if you play killer in the middle of the day you get really average survivor and often quite easy matches.
Also, map offerings should be removed. Sick of seeing them. I was sent to Eyrie 3 times last night, and I doubt it's because people "like the aesthetic".
But also, curb your expectations. Ignore the amount of kills you get, ignore the amount of hooks you get. If there's someone who is so much better than you in chase that you can't catch them, feel free to leave chase and find someone else, after all, nothing is at stake since you don't care about pressure or gens or hooks.
And if you didn't have fun in the match, or got a bad vibe, feel free to skip post game chat. I find that the biggest tryhards are often the most rude in post game chat, even moreso when they feel they've played better than you, win or lose. Average players tend to be quiet.
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Also I dont get the survivors in this instance. There is a lot of crying on this forum that everyone apparently only plays against the same broken killers. But when the survivors get a killer that not many people play and realise that the killer isnt good (yet) many see that as a sign to be suddenly toxic af toward you to apparently pay you back for all the pain they experienced by killers over the years.
Because these survivors don't like these killers because they are "boring", they don't like them because they don't get to bully and harass them during trials. Their idea of fun is making people miserable in the game and then abusing them in the endgame chat. They don't really want more different killers or an interesting game — they want to be bullies. So, of course, when the only Killers who remain playing are very determined meta Killers with thousands of hours spent in the game and they dgaf about entertaining survivors, the bullies cry.
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I think… im not 100% sure someone correct me if im wrong, but killers share MMR? I have almost 4000 hours and many of them are on killer so even while playing new killer i still get navy seal teams in my first matches. This is why i hate playing new killers or doing adepts ( also why im probably missing so many adepts )
I thinks its a bit silly. Why not give every killer their own MMR. You rank up fast enough anyways.
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I don't like doing Killer adepts for this reason. BHVR please make it so we have some sort of less sweaty, unranked queue for this? Maybe it would help some Survivors too? IDK how you would do that but couldn't we do soemthing to make it less annoying for people to try for these without getting these sweat squads? Do we really need to have new Killers never played before be the same MMR as your best ones?
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