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Tru3Ta1ent got genrushed in 4 min but as Nurse this time

DwightsLifeMatters
DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
edited January 2019 in General Discussions
Because so many said in the last post that the reason tru3 got genrushed was he played
1. Doc 
2. Did mistakes (aka didn't left the injured survivor to go for a healthy who was working on a gen next to him)

Nurse quick chases and no big mistakes.
Last gen popped in 4 minutes. 
The only "mistake" he did was not committing to slug or pick up the obsession DS. But if those seconds can make you lose as killer while as survivor u can chill and jerk around it just confirms how unbalanced it is.

Now what?

https://youtu.be/lP8t3FpriOg

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  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Jack11803 said:

    You sit on a throne of lies! We were complaining about him using no perks or add ons. AND HE STILL ISNT! STOP WITH THESE DAMN POSTS!

    Like I said before, Nurse will have to play out of her mind to have a chance against this here.
  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Jack11803 said:

    You sit on a throne of lies! We were complaining about him using no perks or add ons. AND HE STILL ISNT! STOP WITH THESE DAMN POSTS!

    Funny, so many people say "nurse doesn't need addons and perks" hmmmmmm

    Am I those people!?

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    Its not easy in the red ranks. Noob3 also tried the challenge and gave up at red ranks.

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Vietfox said:
    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.
    Only 2 kills because this ace played like an idiot. Otherwise 1 kill at best.
  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Weederick said:

    Its not easy in the red ranks. Noob3 also tried the challenge and gave up at red ranks.

    What challenge? Same, perkless and addonless Killer or the survivor version of that?
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    @Vietfox said:
    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.
    Only 2 kills because this ace played like an idiot. Otherwise 1 kill at best.
    Luck and clumsiness are part of the game for both killers and survivors. I think that match went pretty well for Tru3 considering he wasn't running anything against a team fully armed with perks and 1 instaheal at least.
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    SenzuDuck said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Vietfox said:

    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    Only 2 kills because this ace played like an idiot. Otherwise 1 kill at best.

    Why do you guys do this

    Whenever someone does well in a match it can't because they played well, it's because a survivor did poorly.

    Dude got to rank 1 killer without addons or perks - killer is ez, you're all mad you can't reach rank 1 WITH addons and perks.

    Can you please stop hunting posts who are showing how busted survivors can be? U r a survivor main, you are supposed to hide and keep quite. Kthxbye
    I've watched @SenzuDuck streams and i've seen him playing more as a killer than as a survivor tbh.
  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930

    @Vietfox said:
    @DwightsLifeMatters said:


    SenzuDuck said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Vietfox said:

    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    

    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    Only 2 kills because this ace played like an idiot. Otherwise 1 kill at best.

    Why do you guys do this

    Whenever someone does well in a match it can't because they played well, it's because a survivor did poorly.

    Dude got to rank 1 killer without addons or perks - killer is ez, you're all mad you can't reach rank 1 WITH addons and perks.

    Can you please stop hunting posts who are showing how busted survivors can be? U r a survivor main, you are supposed to hide and keep quite. Kthxbye

    I've watched @SenzuDuck streams and i've seen him playing more as a killer than as a survivor tbh.

    Same. Also, devs have said they don’t want survivors always hiding. You also assumed he hunts these, he doesn’t. They’re like me where they’re just everywhere. Stop making discussions if you don’t want discussions.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Jack11803 said:

    @tt_ivi_99 said:
    To all of you people who are saying: He's playing with no perks!

    Barbacue doesnt serve a purposse no more because of how many counters It has, Ruin is destroyed at the first 15 seconds of the match. The other 2 perks he would run dont really matter because almost no perks work well with Nurse since she doenst need them.

    That means that even if he had perks he would be playing without them.

    Meanwhile we have survivors playing with Dead Hard, DS, etc, which cant be destroyed at the first 15 seconds and have counters that take a lot of time for the killer.

    And also, survivors were playing without toolboxes... It would be kind of Ok if they all had a toolbox or Leader but honestly... 4 mins gens without toolboxes is pretty damn broken.

    Gen Rush is real and needs a fix.

    Sloppy butcher. Nurses calling. NOED. Blood warden.

    You’re just uninspired

    - Sloppy: Yh, 10 more seconds to heal, right...
    - Nurse's Calling: Useless in red ranks unless you are playing as a killer with less than 28m TR.
    - NOED: What's the point of having that perk if totem spots are seen from miles away and are also right next to gens?
    - Blood Warden: Again, what's the point if It can only be used once and by the time you get someone the hooked guy is saved...
    I run resilience, which allows you to repair a gen 7 seconds faster, and believe me when i say that every second matters in this game.
  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Jack11803 said:

    @tt_ivi_99 said:
    To all of you people who are saying: He's playing with no perks!

    Barbacue doesnt serve a purposse no more because of how many counters It has, Ruin is destroyed at the first 15 seconds of the match. The other 2 perks he would run dont really matter because almost no perks work well with Nurse since she doenst need them.

    That means that even if he had perks he would be playing without them.

    Meanwhile we have survivors playing with Dead Hard, DS, etc, which cant be destroyed at the first 15 seconds and have counters that take a lot of time for the killer.

    And also, survivors were playing without toolboxes... It would be kind of Ok if they all had a toolbox or Leader but honestly... 4 mins gens without toolboxes is pretty damn broken.

    Gen Rush is real and needs a fix.

    Sloppy butcher. Nurses calling. NOED. Blood warden.

    You’re just uninspired

    Sloppy: optimal survivors don't selfcare against sloppy, they keep pumping gens  they had adrenalin aswell so no point.
    Nurses: everyone expects nurses calling on Nurse. No point.
    Noed: endgame perk, doesn't affect gen speed.
    Blpodwarden: endgame perk, doesn't affect gen speed 
  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930

    @tt_ivi_99 said:
    Jack11803 said:

    @tt_ivi_99 said:

    To all of you people who are saying: He's playing with no perks!

    Barbacue doesnt serve a purposse no more because of how many counters It has, Ruin is destroyed at the first 15 seconds of the match. The other 2 perks he would run dont really matter because almost no perks work well with Nurse since she doenst need them.
    
    That means that even if he had perks he would be playing without them.
    
    Meanwhile we have survivors playing with Dead Hard, DS, etc, which cant be destroyed at the first 15 seconds and have counters that take a lot of time for the killer.
    
    And also, survivors were playing without toolboxes... It would be kind of Ok if they all had a toolbox or Leader but honestly... 4 mins gens without toolboxes is pretty damn broken.
    

    Gen Rush is real and needs a fix.

    Sloppy butcher. Nurses calling. NOED. Blood warden.

    You’re just uninspired

    • Sloppy: Yh, 10 more seconds to heal, right...

      • Nurse's Calling: Useless in red ranks unless you are playing as a killer with less than 28m TR.
      • NOED: What's the point of having that perk if totem spots are seen from miles away and are also right next to gens?
      • Blood Warden: Again, what's the point if It can only be used once and by the time you get someone the hooked guy is saved...

    Now you’re just being a contrarian for the sake of not wanting to concede. Quit bitching

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Jack11803 said:

    tt_ivi_99 said:
    To all of you people who are saying: He's playing with no perks!

    Barbacue doesnt serve a purposse no more because of how many counters It has, Ruin is destroyed at the first 15 seconds of the match. The other 2 perks he would run dont really matter because almost no perks work well with Nurse since she doenst need them.

    That means that even if he had perks he would be playing without them.

    Meanwhile we have survivors playing with Dead Hard, DS, etc, which cant be destroyed at the first 15 seconds and have counters that take a lot of time for the killer.

    And also, survivors were playing without toolboxes... It would be kind of Ok if they all had a toolbox or Leader but honestly... 4 mins gens without toolboxes is pretty damn broken.

    Gen Rush is real and needs a fix.

    Sloppy butcher. Nurses calling. NOED. Blood warden.

    You’re just uninspired

    Sloppy: optimal survivors don't selfcare against sloppy, they keep pumping gens  they had adrenalin aswell so no point.
    Thank you, that's what i do, even if they are not running sloppy ^^
    But not healing has the drawback of being instadowned again, so it's fine.
  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    IIRC this group was stream sniping him anyway. They knew he had no perks and just rushed him. Still dumb how fast they could do gens, but it is something to consider.

    Also picking up the DS guy wastes loads more time than just the extra stun + chase after. If he just slugged him he could have kept a lot more pressure. By eating the DS he lost all that pressure.

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,293
    So out of how many games played did this happen to him? How well did he also play in each game? Those are the relevant things to think about.

    If the majority of his games he gets 3-4k does that mean the game is unbalanced in favour of killers?

    Yes it can happen but is it the norm? That's is also something to consider it's not what can be done but what is being done the majority of times, the emblem system means these matches gain little BP so more fool those players and if it was such a huge issue he could never reach rank 1 each month.

    The fact is the game promotes screwing around and doing a multitude of things not simply doing the objective, if that was all that was promoted then this issue would be a lot bigger and the kill/death ratio would not be in favour of killers.
  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223
    edited January 2019

    @Vietfox said:
    I run resilience, which allows you to repair a gen 7 seconds faster, and believe me when i say that every second matters in this game.

    *6.6 seconds faster

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Weederick said:

    Its not easy in the red ranks. Noob3 also tried the challenge and gave up at red ranks.

    What challenge? Same, perkless and addonless Killer or the survivor version of that?

    He played both versions without addons and perks. Made it with survivor and gave up killer around rank 4 (maining huntress later on). Tbf he was 12 hours in the livestream and exhausted, but sadly didnt continue the next day.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823

    @Vietfox said:
    I run resilience, which allows you to repair a gen 7 seconds faster, and believe me when i say that every second matters in this game.

    *6.4 seconds faster

    I know, i'm just a positive person.
  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649

    IIRC this group was stream sniping him anyway. They knew he had no perks and just rushed him. Still dumb how fast they could do gens, but it is something to consider.

    Also picking up the DS guy wastes loads more time than just the extra stun + chase after. If he just slugged him he could have kept a lot more pressure. By eating the DS he lost all that pressure.

    Yeah about the DS: with any other killer I would have slugged 100% but with nurse you can make the decision to eat it cuz you can down them very quick again. 
    The issue about slugging: you don't find anyone else, you lose the slug, slug gets picked up -> you won nothing.
  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    thesuicidefox said:

    IIRC this group was stream sniping him anyway. They knew he had no perks and just rushed him. Still dumb how fast they could do gens, but it is something to consider.

    Also picking up the DS guy wastes loads more time than just the extra stun + chase after. If he just slugged him he could have kept a lot more pressure. By eating the DS he lost all that pressure.

    Yeah about the DS: with any other killer I would have slugged 100% but with nurse you can make the decision to eat it cuz you can down them very quick again. 
    The issue about slugging: you don't find anyone else, you lose the slug, slug gets picked up -> you won nothing.

    And the stream sniping?

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Weederick said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Weederick said:

    Its not easy in the red ranks. Noob3 also tried the challenge and gave up at red ranks.

    What challenge? Same, perkless and addonless Killer or the survivor version of that?

    He played both versions without addons and perks. Made it with survivor and gave up killer around rank 4 (maining huntress later on). Tbf he was 12 hours in the livestream and exhausted, but sadly didnt continue the next day.

    Why exactly did he gave up? Genrushed or just lost fun? I'm not sure but isn't Noob3 a survivor main? Or does he play both sides?
  • tt_ivi_99
    tt_ivi_99 Member Posts: 1,463
    Jack11803 said:

    @tt_ivi_99 said:
    Jack11803 said:

    @tt_ivi_99 said:

    To all of you people who are saying: He's playing with no perks!

    Barbacue doesnt serve a purposse no more because of how many counters It has, Ruin is destroyed at the first 15 seconds of the match. The other 2 perks he would run dont really matter because almost no perks work well with Nurse since she doenst need them.
    
    That means that even if he had perks he would be playing without them.
    
    Meanwhile we have survivors playing with Dead Hard, DS, etc, which cant be destroyed at the first 15 seconds and have counters that take a lot of time for the killer.
    
    And also, survivors were playing without toolboxes... It would be kind of Ok if they all had a toolbox or Leader but honestly... 4 mins gens without toolboxes is pretty damn broken.
    

    Gen Rush is real and needs a fix.

    Sloppy butcher. Nurses calling. NOED. Blood warden.

    You’re just uninspired

    • Sloppy: Yh, 10 more seconds to heal, right...

      • Nurse's Calling: Useless in red ranks unless you are playing as a killer with less than 28m TR.
      • NOED: What's the point of having that perk if totem spots are seen from miles away and are also right next to gens?
      • Blood Warden: Again, what's the point if It can only be used once and by the time you get someone the hooked guy is saved...

    Now you’re just being a contrarian for the sake of not wanting to concede. Quit bitching

    Yh, cuz you dont see my point, which is:

    He is playing without perks, but even if he'd be playing with perks that would not make a big difference because the perks that actually do something rely too much on luck (Ruin) or have too many counters (BBQ). They dont rely on the killer being a good player (unlike survivors).

    Killers literally rely on the survivors making mistakes.

    Take fighting games for example. Yes, you can punish your opponent if they make a mistake or you can predict how they are gonna play and counter them.

    As killer you have no way to predict if a player spawns near your Ruin or a survivor who gets inside a locker or runs distortion.

    The fact that killers cant have the possibility to predict how a survivor is gonna play is awful, add to that the fact that killers dont have enough time to wait for survivors to make a mistake in order to punish them because of the time It takes gens to be done and you'll have a game that needs a big change on it's core mechanics.
  • Jack11803
    Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930

    @tt_ivi_99 said:
    Jack11803 said:

    @tt_ivi_99 said:

    Jack11803 said:

    @tt_ivi_99 said:
    
    To all of you people who are saying: He's playing with no perks!
    

    Barbacue doesnt serve a purposse no more because of how many counters It has, Ruin is destroyed at the first 15 seconds of the match. The other 2 perks he would run dont really matter because almost no perks work well with Nurse since she doenst need them. That means that even if he had perks he would be playing without them. Meanwhile we have survivors playing with Dead Hard, DS, etc, which cant be destroyed at the first 15 seconds and have counters that take a lot of time for the killer. And also, survivors were playing without toolboxes... It would be kind of Ok if they all had a toolbox or Leader but honestly... 4 mins gens without toolboxes is pretty damn broken.

    Gen Rush is real and needs a fix.
    
    
    
    Sloppy butcher. Nurses calling. NOED. Blood warden.
    
    You’re just uninspired
    

    * Sloppy: Yh, 10 more seconds to heal, right...

    
      
      

    * Nurse's Calling: Useless in red ranks unless you are playing as a killer with less than 28m TR.
    * NOED: What's the point of having that perk if totem spots are seen from miles away and are also right next to gens?
    * Blood Warden: Again, what's the point if It can only be used once and by the time you get someone the hooked guy is saved...


    Now you’re just being a contrarian for the sake of not wanting to concede. Quit bitching

    Yh, cuz you dont see my point, which is:

    He is playing without perks, but even if he'd be playing with perks that would not make a big difference because the perks that actually do something rely too much on luck (Ruin) or have too many counters (BBQ). They dont rely on the killer being a good player (unlike survivors).

    Killers literally rely on the survivors making mistakes.

    Take fighting games for example. Yes, you can punish your opponent if they make a mistake or you can predict how they are gonna play and counter them.

    As killer you have no way to predict if a player spawns near your Ruin or a survivor who gets inside a locker or runs distortion.

    The fact that killers cant have the possibility to predict how a survivor is gonna play is awful, add to that the fact that killers dont have enough time to wait for survivors to make a mistake in order to punish them because of the time It takes gens to be done and you'll have a game that needs a big change on it's core mechanics.

    What about the perks I said? You seriously immediately lept back to the perks you yourself already explained? I provided an actual build, prove to me why running that wouldn’t make a difference.

  • vampire_toothy
    vampire_toothy Member Posts: 381

    @Vietfox said:
    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Vietfox said:

    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    Only 2 kills because this ace played like an idiot. Otherwise 1 kill at best.

    Why do you guys do this

    Whenever someone does well in a match it can't because they played well, it's because a survivor did poorly.

    Dude got to rank 1 killer without addons or perks - killer is ez, you're all mad you can't reach rank 1 WITH addons and perks.

    This is the pure definition of bias, step back a bit and think more about this @Vietfox .
    The fact that you brought up that a Nurse receiving 2 kills when objectives are being done in 4 minutes (or less with toolboxes) shows you're biased. Yes, Nurse is strong but what's worse than Nurse is the fact that any person who plays optimally can complete all the generators in 4 minutes or less which in my opinion a game should never end in 5 minutes or less in the favor of the killer or the survivor in an average or even competitive-styled match. An ideal match in my books should last 7 minutes on average (there would be outlier cases with different playstyles and/or killers). What should be done first is we should see an objective change to allow for more fun objectives for survivors to interact with while waiting for the killer that can also take up more time without it just being M1 simulator, afterwords or even in the same update we can talk about nerfing Nurse or fixing the actual problem which is her addons. You need to think more objectively about the game because the problems with it isn't as black and white as you might think, there are multiple problems on both ends.

    Now for this part @SenzuDuck , you preach about rank like it ever even mattered in the first place, since when has rank meant anything? You're all talk but you can't even provide a proper reason in a discussion. I'd like to see you actually be productive in this post. Sure I can admit that it's incredibly easy to pip as a killer and as a survivor, I would know because before emblems came out I got to rank 1 as Freddy and post-emblems I got to rank 1 as perkless legion. Nearly every month I've managed to get to rank 1 as both killer and survivor but does that mean I'm a good player just because I can do that? Absolutely not because ranking up requires no skill, it only requires time and playing fairly, infact it's almost impossible to derank in a normal match. Rank has never and will never mean anything with how it currently works and how it has worked in the past. The fact you even think that rank matters in a discussion about objectives shows you're only trying to throw the discussion off.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Vietfox said:

    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    

    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    Only 2 kills because this ace played like an idiot. Otherwise 1 kill at best.

    Why do you guys do this

    Whenever someone does well in a match it can't because they played well, it's because a survivor did poorly.

    Dude got to rank 1 killer without addons or perks - killer is ez, you're all mad you can't reach rank 1 WITH addons and perks.

    Can you please stop hunting posts who are showing how busted survivors can be? U r a survivor main, you are supposed to hide and keep quite.

    Btw, I watched your stream some days ago. U played huntress and I was laughing my ass off. You seriously refused to break cow loop pallet and tried to bloodlust the survivor down. As Huntress. No wonder you think killer is ez. - "omegalul"
    Kthxbye

    oh no, you saw one of matches, FOR SHAME.

    Yea, because I don't have to try hard to do well, I don't mind ######### around a loop while others do #########, you're bad and you'll never admit it.

    You call me a survivor main but caught me playing killer at rank one, that's weird eh?

  • tt_ivi_99
    tt_ivi_99 Member Posts: 1,463
    Jack11803 said:

    @tt_ivi_99 said:
    Jack11803 said:

    @tt_ivi_99 said:

    Jack11803 said:

    @tt_ivi_99 said:
    
    To all of you people who are saying: He's playing with no perks!
    

    Barbacue doesnt serve a purposse no more because of how many counters It has, Ruin is destroyed at the first 15 seconds of the match. The other 2 perks he would run dont really matter because almost no perks work well with Nurse since she doenst need them. That means that even if he had perks he would be playing without them. Meanwhile we have survivors playing with Dead Hard, DS, etc, which cant be destroyed at the first 15 seconds and have counters that take a lot of time for the killer. And also, survivors were playing without toolboxes... It would be kind of Ok if they all had a toolbox or Leader but honestly... 4 mins gens without toolboxes is pretty damn broken.

    Gen Rush is real and needs a fix.
    
    
    
    Sloppy butcher. Nurses calling. NOED. Blood warden.
    
    You’re just uninspired
    

    * Sloppy: Yh, 10 more seconds to heal, right...

    
    

    * Nurse's Calling: Useless in red ranks unless you are playing as a killer with less than 28m TR.
    * NOED: What's the point of having that perk if totem spots are seen from miles away and are also right next to gens?
    * Blood Warden: Again, what's the point if It can only be used once and by the time you get someone the hooked guy is saved...


    Now you’re just being a contrarian for the sake of not wanting to concede. Quit bitching

    Yh, cuz you dont see my point, which is:

    He is playing without perks, but even if he'd be playing with perks that would not make a big difference because the perks that actually do something rely too much on luck (Ruin) or have too many counters (BBQ). They dont rely on the killer being a good player (unlike survivors).

    Killers literally rely on the survivors making mistakes.

    Take fighting games for example. Yes, you can punish your opponent if they make a mistake or you can predict how they are gonna play and counter them.

    As killer you have no way to predict if a player spawns near your Ruin or a survivor who gets inside a locker or runs distortion.

    The fact that killers cant have the possibility to predict how a survivor is gonna play is awful, add to that the fact that killers dont have enough time to wait for survivors to make a mistake in order to punish them because of the time It takes gens to be done and you'll have a game that needs a big change on it's core mechanics.

    What about the perks I said? You seriously immediately lept back to the perks you yourself already explained? I provided an actual build, prove to me why running that wouldn’t make a difference.

    I already told you why: Maybe the only perk Im wrong is Sloppy, but those other perks dont really make a difference in a match.

    How many times have you got a kill with Blood Warden active?
    How many totems are near gens or can be seen from a mile away?
    How many times have you seen a red rank survivor healing with Nurse's calling when playing as a killer that has 32m TR?

    I could see a point on using Thanatophobia instead of Ruin if the numbers on that perk were not awful...

    The only strong perks that make a difference in this game are Ruin (if It lasts for at least 1 hook and no gens done) and Barbacue if you have hooks nearby when you down a survivor.
  • RepliCant
    RepliCant Member Posts: 1,436

    Imma be the one to say it but..

    Where is his map pressure?

    He didn't even go into a whole area that was probably a 42m radius.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823

    @Vietfox said:
    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    SenzuDuck said:

    DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Vietfox said:

    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    Only 2 kills because this ace played like an idiot. Otherwise 1 kill at best.

    Why do you guys do this

    Whenever someone does well in a match it can't because they played well, it's because a survivor did poorly.

    Dude got to rank 1 killer without addons or perks - killer is ez, you're all mad you can't reach rank 1 WITH addons and perks.

    Yes, Nurse is strong but what's worse than Nurse is the fact that any person who plays optimally can complete all the generators in 4 minutes or less which in my opinion a game should never end in 5 minutes or less in the favor of the killer or the survivor in an average or even competitive-styled match.

    Again, Tru3 wasn't playing the way game is intended, he wasn't running anything. If any killer can do well with that inexistent loadout then tell me how it would be with perks and addons.
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @vampire_toothy said:

    @Vietfox said:
    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Vietfox said:

    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    Only 2 kills because this ace played like an idiot. Otherwise 1 kill at best.

    Why do you guys do this

    Whenever someone does well in a match it can't because they played well, it's because a survivor did poorly.

    Dude got to rank 1 killer without addons or perks - killer is ez, you're all mad you can't reach rank 1 WITH addons and perks.

    This is the pure definition of bias, step back a bit and think more about this @Vietfox .
    The fact that you brought up that a Nurse receiving 2 kills when objectives are being done in 4 minutes (or less with toolboxes) shows you're biased. Yes, Nurse is strong but what's worse than Nurse is the fact that any person who plays optimally can complete all the generators in 4 minutes or less which in my opinion a game should never end in 5 minutes or less in the favor of the killer or the survivor in an average or even competitive-styled match. An ideal match in my books should last 7 minutes on average (there would be outlier cases with different playstyles and/or killers). What should be done first is we should see an objective change to allow for more fun objectives for survivors to interact with while waiting for the killer that can also take up more time without it just being M1 simulator, afterwords or even in the same update we can talk about nerfing Nurse or fixing the actual problem which is her addons. You need to think more objectively about the game because the problems with it isn't as black and white as you might think, there are multiple problems on both ends.

    Now for this part @SenzuDuck , you preach about rank like it ever even mattered in the first place, since when has rank meant anything? You're all talk but you can't even provide a proper reason in a discussion. I'd like to see you actually be productive in this post. Sure I can admit that it's incredibly easy to pip as a killer and as a survivor, I would know because before emblems came out I got to rank 1 as Freddy and post-emblems I got to rank 1 as perkless legion. Nearly every month I've managed to get to rank 1 as both killer and survivor but does that mean I'm a good player just because I can do that? Absolutely not because ranking up requires no skill, it only requires time and playing fairly, infact it's almost impossible to derank in a normal match. Rank has never and will never mean anything with how it currently works and how it has worked in the past. The fact you even think that rank matters in a discussion about objectives shows you're only trying to throw the discussion off.

    Oh great, another 4Head,
    I bring up rank because everyone and their mother says "shut up you don't agree with me so you're a survivor main". So i state I'm rank one every season as killer because you know, survivor mains do that.

    Nobody argues with me because they use their "you're a survivor main stop talking". Tell THOSE people to add something constructive to the conversation

    and im the one trying to throw the discussion off? Completely ignoring the guy that says "he didn't get two kills because someone played badly".

    I don't say killers only get 3 kills when they camp someone.

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Weederick said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Weederick said:

    Its not easy in the red ranks. Noob3 also tried the challenge and gave up at red ranks.
    

    What challenge? Same, perkless and addonless Killer or the survivor version of that?

    He played both versions without addons and perks. Made it with survivor and gave up killer around rank 4 (maining huntress later on). Tbf he was 12 hours in the livestream and exhausted, but sadly didnt continue the next day.

    Why exactly did he gave up? Genrushed or just lost fun? I'm not sure but isn't Noob3 a survivor main? Or does he play both sides?

    I only watched some parts of it, but he seemed frustrated and gave up, because he thought he cant make it. It was too hard. Although i think he couldve made it next day... He's a survivormain with thousand of hours, so probably still more killerhours than most people.
    Other people who did the same challenge also said, that red ranks is haaard. Sweaty, tryhardy and thats where the only black pip/depips happened, if any.

  • DwightsLifeMatters
    DwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,649
    Weederick said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Weederick said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Weederick said:

    Its not easy in the red ranks. Noob3 also tried the challenge and gave up at red ranks.
    

    What challenge? Same, perkless and addonless Killer or the survivor version of that?

    He played both versions without addons and perks. Made it with survivor and gave up killer around rank 4 (maining huntress later on). Tbf he was 12 hours in the livestream and exhausted, but sadly didnt continue the next day.

    Why exactly did he gave up? Genrushed or just lost fun? I'm not sure but isn't Noob3 a survivor main? Or does he play both sides?

    I only watched some parts of it, but he seemed frustrated and gave up, because he thought he cant make it. It was too hard. Although i think he couldve made it next day... He's a survivormain with thousand of hours, so probably still more killerhours than most people.
    Other people who did the same challenge also said, that red ranks is haaard. Sweaty, tryhardy and thats where the only black pip/depips happened, if any.

    Good to know. Respect that he tried this challenge as a survivor main. 
  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Weederick said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Weederick said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    
    Weederick said:
    

    Its not easy in the red ranks. Noob3 also tried the challenge and gave up at red ranks.

    What challenge? Same, perkless and addonless Killer or the survivor version of that?
    
    
    
    He played both versions without addons and perks. Made it with survivor and gave up killer around rank 4 (maining huntress later on). Tbf he was 12 hours in the livestream and exhausted, but sadly didnt continue the next day.
    

    Why exactly did he gave up? Genrushed or just lost fun? I'm not sure but isn't Noob3 a survivor main? Or does he play both sides?

    I only watched some parts of it, but he seemed frustrated and gave up, because he thought he cant make it. It was too hard. Although i think he couldve made it next day... He's a survivormain with thousand of hours, so probably still more killerhours than most people.

    Other people who did the same challenge also said, that red ranks is haaard. Sweaty, tryhardy and thats where the only black pip/depips happened, if any.

    Good to know. Respect that he tried this challenge as a survivor main. 

    Agree, he seemed pretty chill admitting defeat for the killer challenge.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    SenzuDuck said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    
    Vietfox said:
    

    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)

    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.
    
    Only 2 kills because this ace played like an idiot. Otherwise 1 kill at best.
    
    
    
    Why do you guys do this
    
    Whenever someone does well in a match it can't because they played well, it's because a survivor did poorly.
    
    Dude got to rank 1 killer without addons or perks - killer is ez, you're all mad you can't reach rank 1 WITH addons and perks.
    
    
    
    Can you please stop hunting posts who are showing how busted survivors can be? U r a survivor main, you are supposed to hide and keep quite.
    
    Btw, I watched your stream some days ago. U played huntress and I was laughing my ass off. You seriously refused to break cow loop pallet and tried to bloodlust the survivor down. As Huntress. No wonder you think killer is ez. - "omegalul"
    

    Kthxbye

    oh no, you saw one of matches, FOR SHAME.

    Yea, because I don't have to try hard to do well, I don't mind [BAD WORD] around a loop while others do #########, you're bad and you'll never admit it.

    You call me a survivor main but caught me playing killer at rank one, that's weird eh?

    I can tell how upset you are it's hilarious.

    you expect from me to watch more than one match of your boring casual stream? insert here omegalul

    no, I'm not everyones cup of tea, that's the beauty of streaming, you don't have to watch it ;)

    Oh, so you admit that you verse potatoes all time but still you got the balls to come here bitching about balanced stuff against the best players? Good job, you outplayed yourself. Don't even have to try insert here another omegalul

    No, way to take it out of context, killers are strong, therefore it isn't hard to kill with them, but you can twist the words how ever you want, it wont make you any better as killer or me any worse.

    At least I can proof that you suck at playing killer with your own stream, what do you got? Right, nothing. Thanks for outplaying yourself again.

    Not really, I have plenty of matches where I 2/3/4K. You're welcome to look over my killer matches if you'd like, you saw one game where I was probably try harding throws with Huntress to see what hits. You've never proven anything, all you do is say "LOL SURVIVOR MAIN OMG GO AWAY!"

    Beeing a survivor main doesn't mean that you play exclusively survivor only. It also means that you are biased towards survivors cuz you follow the interests of survivors more than killers. And I see you very often bitching against killer posts.

    Find me a single comment from me where I ######### about a killer post OMEGALUL. It always fascinates me how you guys make up all this stuff to make it seem like what you're saying is somewhat truthful. I play more killer than survivor, I'd love to play more killer but 15 minute lobbies has been killing it for me tbh.

    When are you going to comprehend that rank doesn't mean #########? You always bring up that you are rank 1. Probably because you are just good enough to get there.

    Because survivor mains don't reach rank one, your one argument against me is "survivor main btw" to try and dismiss my opinions, if I'm a survivor main why did I hit killer rank 1 3 days after rank reset and only hit rank 1 survivor today, that's weird that.

    You'll finally realise soon that you're not very good at the game and the forums will be all the better for it instead of having you make a post every ten minutes about how not every perk holds your hand and does all the work for you.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    Oh good grief, the amount of whiny trolling here is unbelievable, you'll cherry pick only the videos that backup your argument.

    It's become obvious you're Tru fanboys now and anytime he struggles it's because killers are grossly underpowered. It's never the killer making mistakes or the survivors just played better and you ignore every video where he stomps people.

    But then it's always the excuse of well the survivor were potatoes, not that the killer gasp just played better I mean because admitting that would admit your argument was bad.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Best day ever!

    If the Dwight wouldn't have ######### around and claudette would have been saved with BT, that game would have turned into a 0k.
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @vampire_toothy said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @vampire_toothy said:

    @Vietfox said:
    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Vietfox said:

    No perks no addons against survivors with instalheals and yet he got 2K. Sounds like we should nerf the nurse first :)
    Edit: in normal conditions a good nurse can get 4K in less than 4 minutes.

    Only 2 kills because this ace played like an idiot. Otherwise 1 kill at best.

    Why do you guys do this

    Whenever someone does well in a match it can't because they played well, it's because a survivor did poorly.

    Dude got to rank 1 killer without addons or perks - killer is ez, you're all mad you can't reach rank 1 WITH addons and perks.

    This is the pure definition of bias, step back a bit and think more about this @Vietfox .
    The fact that you brought up that a Nurse receiving 2 kills when objectives are being done in 4 minutes (or less with toolboxes) shows you're biased. Yes, Nurse is strong but what's worse than Nurse is the fact that any person who plays optimally can complete all the generators in 4 minutes or less which in my opinion a game should never end in 5 minutes or less in the favor of the killer or the survivor in an average or even competitive-styled match. An ideal match in my books should last 7 minutes on average (there would be outlier cases with different playstyles and/or killers). What should be done first is we should see an objective change to allow for more fun objectives for survivors to interact with while waiting for the killer that can also take up more time without it just being M1 simulator, afterwords or even in the same update we can talk about nerfing Nurse or fixing the actual problem which is her addons. You need to think more objectively about the game because the problems with it isn't as black and white as you might think, there are multiple problems on both ends.

    Now for this part @SenzuDuck , you preach about rank like it ever even mattered in the first place, since when has rank meant anything? You're all talk but you can't even provide a proper reason in a discussion. I'd like to see you actually be productive in this post. Sure I can admit that it's incredibly easy to pip as a killer and as a survivor, I would know because before emblems came out I got to rank 1 as Freddy and post-emblems I got to rank 1 as perkless legion. Nearly every month I've managed to get to rank 1 as both killer and survivor but does that mean I'm a good player just because I can do that? Absolutely not because ranking up requires no skill, it only requires time and playing fairly, infact it's almost impossible to derank in a normal match. Rank has never and will never mean anything with how it currently works and how it has worked in the past. The fact you even think that rank matters in a discussion about objectives shows you're only trying to throw the discussion off.

    Oh great, another 4Head,
    I bring up rank because everyone and their mother says "shut up you don't agree with me so you're a survivor main". So i state I'm rank one every season as killer because you know, survivor mains do that.

    Nobody argues with me because they use their "you're a survivor main stop talking". Tell THOSE people to add something constructive to the conversation

    and im the one trying to throw the discussion off? Completely ignoring the guy that says "he didn't get two kills because someone played badly".

    I don't say killers only get 3 kills when they camp someone.

    Cool, lets rack up the insults while we're at it when I call for you to only be more objective. Take note that I do not care for rank or what you main as because that means nothing and calling someone a "killer" or "survivor" main only is used to divide the community rather than to be productive. Who cares if someone calls you a survivor main, that shouldn't change how you word things because at the end of the day rank and what you main do not add anything to the discussion at all and instead derails the topic. I'll call a person biased but I'll never call them a survivor or killer main nowadays and in my eyes you're biased. I haven't ignored their post either, they stayed ontopic with the video which was that they said he got 2 kills in the match because the ace played poorly, that's not off topic as it related to the video in the first place. Simply calling me a 4head means you have nothing more to say which backs up my initial post, plain and simple.

    Yea, did you read what he said? Why wouldn't I be bothered about being called that

    "Can you please stop hunting posts who are showing how busted survivors can be? U r a survivor main, you are supposed to hide and keep quite."

    He's saying I shouldn't have an opinion on things because I'm a "survivor main" but apparently your issue is with me OMEGALUL

    Too many 4Heads to comprehend.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873

    @Nickenzie said:
    Jack11803 said:

    You sit on a throne of lies! We were complaining about him using no perks or add ons. AND HE STILL ISNT! STOP WITH THESE DAMN POSTS!

    Like I said before, Nurse will have to play out of her mind to have a chance against this here.

    You're joking right? All he had to do was slug, slug and slug. That's it. He coulda got a 3-4 man.

  • Ihatelife
    Ihatelife Member Posts: 5,069

    I think we all get Gen rushed