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Why do survivor bots know how to loop
Whenever I play killer they be looping so good they know how to double back and fake a window vault they know how to loop in good tiles they be so slick
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Its no different to going against a human player really. It astounds me that so many survivors often play similar to a bot with no sense of teamwork just primary goto is loop.
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Bots have perfect awareness of where the killer is and move away accordingly.
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It's because they have wallhacks so they can't be mind-gamed. They also react and dodge to some killers a lot better than others; Huntress, Billy, etc.
If you try to loop them like a normal person then it prolly won't work out well and as such, some loops need to be brute forced. Window loops are the best since it's easy to get them to three vault and then get a hit.
Play against them a few times in custom and it becomes really easy to outplay them.7 -
I mean, the bots are kinda ######### cracked when it comes to looping most of the time. Usually you have to bruteforce their down.
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They tend to be much weaker in real matches, but I find them to loop near flawlessly in the custom mode. It's not uncommon for me to get very few hooks while practicing, since they're always on gens if not being chased. I've noticed that they've learned the counter play to quite a few of the Killers I play, too. They know to run early from Legion in Frenzy to get you out of power (and of course they know exactly where you are) and can even dodge Slinger's spear. Granted, they don't dodge that well, but then if I playing Slinger on the Switch I'm going to be missing a lot of shots anyway. Like others have said, you can sometimes brute force their logic at certain vaults and pallets.
I think they could do with some difficulty or behaviour settings, tbh. I can imagine very new or very bad Killer players becoming frustrated versing bots in the custom mode. I know I sometimes do.
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So because killer isn't strong enough, he's trolling.
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Bots that are good at looping? I'll trade you my boiled potatoes for some of your spicy fries. Cos the bots I meet are terrible.
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As long as a pallet isn't dropped, you have pretty bad chances to hit them. After that though, they usually react so slow that you can hit them around most tiles. It's the same for many windows.
Bots are very predictable and they always react to how close you are. So you can bait them into vaulting and catch them on the other side. Because you can already double back before their vault. That takes a bit of time to learn though.
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Bots are predictable and can be easily baited to force a window block
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Bots were actually good when they were implemented, but now they got nerfed pretty hard
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You probably play a different kind of game than DbD.
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Where are these bots that loop good. I keep getting bots from leavers that troll more then the leave did. Had one walk up to me bag 4 times for a heal while on a gen then ran off as i started to heal, Killer was all the way across the map at that time.
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Bots are useless. When someone dcs, they will mostly just run back and forth and do nothing because they hear the killer terror radius. With some killers you can hold your power and the bot will zone itself. They want to get healed, but leave you injured. They're babies.
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Bots are wild. Sometimes they'll loop kinda competently, sometimes they'll ignore 3 tiles to run edgemap.
It's not a good idea to mindgame a bot either way, they basically have walls, but are programmed to be kinda stupid outside of that.
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Agreed with most of the other comments here. I find bots are easy to down, but they're designed in a way that's going to take a little time in chase. A bot will usually fail to handle shack well and get hit there, but will also manage to waste more time than a lot of survivors. So very good survivors will handle themselves better than a bot, but new survivors can't hold a candle to that triple window vaults the bot will probably pull on you.
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I will help people to deal with bots:
-Don't mind game, it doesnt work. Just hold w
-Force the vault block if the tile has a long wall. Its easy to do so, just jerk your movement left and right around the tile as if you were trying to cut them off
-You need to treat bots as if the survivor had infinite aura reading on you
-Don't respect pallets, most of the time they know they have enough distance to escape the lunge attack
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Bots have wallhacks, you need to mindgame them differently. They know your location at all times, even when you're behind walls.
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You can mind game bots. You need to get just close enough so that the bot will vault and double back fast, if you do this correctly, with many loops you'll actually get the hit before they can vault back. Also you can't treat bots like regular survivors, they don't have a "reaction time" like humans would. And in my experience bots ALWAYS drop the pallet if they get to one.
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Thats not a mindgame
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The bots can't expect you coming back to the other side of the window in time, ever. So technically it's a mindgame. Bots just vault when you get close enough.
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Rise of the machines. Growth hurts. It often does.
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I mentioned that you can force the vault block by going back and forth the wall prompting the bot to use the vault. I don't consider that a mindgame. You can't mindgame if the survivor is seeing your aura (for the most part), and bots are always seeing your aura
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As others have said, bots always know where you are (but only act on it if you're close) and have pre-determined "paths" to follow for any loop that they are at. They will always run that path and double back immediately if necessary if you switch directions. They are also incredibly aware of projectile attacks and will dodge with 0ms reaction time. The best way to beat a bot is to exploit its weaknesses in programming - they are scared of the terror radius so you can pressure them easily and they will attempt to play bad tiles rather than make distance (like z-walls)
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Bots read your actions and react accordingly which makes them quite unlike a real opponent and not as fun, as you cant mind game a bot which is a big part of the fun of playing against real people.
That being said I think the bots are a fantastic tool if you want to learn how to play a killer and to learn their mechanics without the stresses of live matches and bots wont teabag you at the exit while you get your head around a complex killers mechanics too
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The bots are woefully bad…Like almost worse than not having a teammate bad. The bots do not even make an attempt to not instantly die in chase right now lol.
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A I never said nerfing anything about jungle jims I said they need to do something for M1 killers who have a weaker advatage at tiles and jungle jims. B You need to learn how to read first instead of misunderstanding of what I posted before. And I never said I didnt have the skill I was specifically aiming at M1 killers who are weak against certain loops. Please comprehend yourself before you post please and thank you. Get educated please no offense.
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Bots knowing where you are will always try to be opposite of the killer. This is fine with low wall loops with a killer that can hit over walls. With all other killers, don't bother mindgaming. You can't mindgame something with no mind.
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Just imagine when killer bots play by the same rules. Something tells me people arnt going to like it going against a Nurse or Pyramid Head with permanent wallhacks.
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