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Why do we still have different rarities of perks?

Jay_K
Jay_K Member Posts: 473
in General Discussions

With how current prestige works for unlocking perks why is it we still have to level them 1 - 3 each time.
I thought it was to slow down the game in terms of progression when your starting a new killer/survivor but what its actually doing is punishing new survivors/killers who don't play enough to grind p3 on every single character.

Is it not time we do away with the three teir system for perks and instead just have the perk be the perk. Let's face it with the exception of a few players who are trying to do the adept on someone they don't play no one is using non teir 3 perks anyway.

Would be really curious to see the dev's reasoning as to why we still have 3 tiers.

Comments

  • bazarama
    bazarama Member Posts: 270

    Totally agree.

    Even getting to level 1 (50 in the blood-Web) so you at least put in some effort would be fair but doing it 3 times is beyond tedious.

  • MrMori
    MrMori Member Posts: 1,691

    Gotta give people somethin to grind for you know? I mean, say we removed perk tiers and gave people fully leveled perks at Prestige 1. What should the reward be for P2 and P3? Should we just shuffle all the other rewards 2 levels earlier?

  • Jay_K
    Jay_K Member Posts: 473
    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3834637#Comment_3834637

    by that logic why do we not get anything for p10 and above? What you work for after you unlocked all perks is items, offerings and addons. not to mention having that shiny badge to show how addicted to the game you are :)

  • Hex_Totem_Gremlin
    Hex_Totem_Gremlin Member Posts: 7

    Instead of a punishment, I looked at leveling my perks as a reward. When I was a baby Survivor it made sense to use baby perks. As I gained more experience and put more time into the game, I knew I needed to acquire better skills. Putting hard work towards being able to attain a higher level of perk made getting them that much more fulfilling. If we got rid of the perk tiers all together, what would we strive for as lower level players? Doing the rift over and over only offers rewards that don't actually enhance our game play. What would we use all of our bloodpoints for that we get after each match, doing tomes and as special rewards when we first start playing? I certainly wouldn't have wanted to prestige a character just for funsies and an outfit. The items and add ons we get can be nice but, even for an item hoarder like myself, there's little gratification in receiving the same stuff over and over. While, yes it could be tedious and looked at as a punishment, I do think the perk tier system is a good element to have for players.

  • jesterkind
    jesterkind Member Posts: 7,959

    I kind of agree. Another thing I think about often is that perk tiers put some unnecessary restrictions on perk design, because there has to be some number to tweak that scales between tiers. It doesn't come up often, but occasionally in the course of designing perks or thinking about balance changes, I end up confronted with the question "well wait, what part would scale with tiers in this case?"

    At the very least, I think it'd be appropriate for generic perks to lose their tier rarities, and just spawn in the bloodweb at their highest levels. That'd give new players and those levelling new characters quicker access to the tools to craft builds with, while still maintaining the prestige 1-3 system for teachables to make those feel a little more rewarding to grind for.

  • lav3
    lav3 Member Posts: 775

    BHVR should just remove perk tiers and make character's perks unlockable at P1.
    There are already too many characters and perks.
    Even if it can remove fun of raising characters, grind should constantly be reduced for helping new players.
    Motivation for earning BPs is already enough for players who want to P100 their favorites.

  • MrMori
    MrMori Member Posts: 1,691
    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3834688#Comment_3834688

    Yeah that's a fair point. You'd think that something like a banner at P50 and a cool custom badge at P100 that shows off the character would be a given. Could be that there's issues with licensed characters but still. Anyway, I'd be all for removing perk tiers, it would make the grind very straightforward, aka "just get P1 on everyone and you're good".