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Keep Thrill of the Hunt, but buff Counterforce and Small Game
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Thats exactly kliller hypocrisy. If survivors dont want something to happen just use perks. Devs always try to band-aid fix their broken gameplay by forcing survivors into perks they dont want to run by force. So just because devs dont stop their failed attempts its fine to you? But the thing here is: its not even a failed attempt on band-aid ficxing their game, its just a failed attempt on buffing a perk. And (at least) such things has always been undone by bhvr.
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It's sad that the devs buff/nerf certain perks to ALLOW some type of variety, but people always complain about it. First, it was the gen regression that got nerfed. You BARELY see pop goes the weasel because of it. Aura perks got a buff indirectly cause of distortion. Now hex perks got buffed, and people are complaining bout that too.
I remember people used to call it cringe that the killer would bring four slowdowns. Like straight up being toxic to the killer community cause four slowdowns were met. Now, there's actual variety in perk builds, and people still aren't happy. Still complaining.
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Its pretty unanimous that this perk is way overtuned and not intended to be this oppressive. Doctor/Legion/Plague matches with this perk are just over before they start.
The same things were said about old DH, old Eruption, old brokenground player, old MFT. None of those talking points were good enough then and they arent now.
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Maybe, but thrill should still come down quite a bit.
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Bro nobody ran shattered Hope even during that boon op times
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Why not Im a counter force enjoyer so I can get behind this
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If a killer said this
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Y'know counterpicks have an end to it right?
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dosen't matter. no one should have to run a perk to counter a build. read @edgarpoop comment if you need a more detail answer
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Shattered Hope came out a while after CoH and by the time it did CoH was already on track to be nerfed. In fact I think it was nerfed shortly after SH released. None of the other boons are worth a counter perk though.
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Then what?
What's so broken on the survivor side?
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You say that until we see the same stuff that was directed at perks like Distortion now directed at Counterforce. Today its "just equip Counterforce to counter ToTH and its accompanying hex builds," then in a few months it'll be "CF counters too many perks! I can't use a Hex totem anymore because everyone is running Counterforce."
None of this would be an issue if BHVR just calmed down when it came to adjusting old perks. When they removed the bp bonus from PT in the past they didn't buff it to compensate, they actually nerfed it instead. They could have just removed the bp bonus from TOTH without buffing it so considerably, or at all.
Killer perks - new or adjusted - seem to consistently be given the grace of a "wait and see" approach, when all this does is mess with killers MMRs by giving them great results for a matter of months and then taking it away. So many are probably boosted into brackets they don't belong in and then struggle without the perks. See the gen kick meta era. I still see some players bringing that era up even though it's been over for ages, simply because it was the best and easiest time of DBD for them. They got great results with the perks playing the game for them.
So it's not just survivors who have to deal with it, killers aren't happy when this stuff is inevitably taken away either. And I have no doubt TOTH buff will be reverted.
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People have already said what's broken on survivor side you refuse to acknowledge it
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The only survivor things mentioned that I'm seeing are perks that were nerfed years ago. Which would imply that thrill also deserves a nerf. That's a valid and reasonable stance right now.
Since you seen to disagree with that, maybe you could list what you think is currently in the game.
Although, your attitude doesn't really seem like your interested in a discussion at all, and just want to play the "whataboutism" card with zero examples. Which is worth nothing to begin with and by just waving your hands in the air and saying "see? Look around!" is somehow worth even less than that.
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Oh I've seen what passes as 'broken' for the forum killer side. Survivors squeezing out a few more charges when the killer's on his way, survivors not squeezing out a few more charges when the killer's on his way, survivors going for the unhook, survivors not going for the unhook, 'look how OP this is' with a picture of a 4K attached…
But anything on the level of TotH? No.
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