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2V8 bot changes
Okay, so you decided to remove the bots completely because some people complained. Im wondering, who was exactly complaining? Killers getting looped and occupied by bots? Because as a survivor, the games became much more enjoyable when the bots managed to keep the killers occupied longer than 5 seconds. Im not talking about SWF. In 2v8, its rather hard to get that many together to begin with. Im talking when you had 6 people and 2 bots and at most, a couple of them were premade. The chances of actually being able to play were much higher. As a killer, it was also often more fun to chase down bots to give survivors "hope". As i play both sides, even with a random killer, it was still more fun with a few bots added than against either a bunch of randoms or a full group of swf. I am pretty sure the only complains came from killers who were so bad that they were unable to catch bots because bots manage to loop killers better than half of the survivor lobbies do. Ive seen them do it, and i have gone against them. I had alot of fun playing on both sides till you removed the bots. Now we just have sweaty killers who pull out their hair when they dont get their mori and probably play in a freezer to keep their head from bursting into flames. On the other side of the coin, as a killer, the game is often over before it even starts or you get a group full of swf who all have 2k+ hours under their belt, and even then, its easy to take down 4 of them. To put this post and problem into numbers, Before the bots were removed i played around 63 games as a survivor, 54 of them ended with positive vibes, 3 or more players escaping, and high bp score on all sides. As a killer, due to longer wait times, i managed to play 26 games. 12 of them were with a friend. around 20 ended with a bot or a player making out of the hatch. Only 6 of those games the gates were opened and 3 or more escaped. After the removal of bots, ive played around 30 survivor games and only seen 2 or 3 games where someone manages to escape. As a killer, ive played 18 games and if my memory does not betray me 12 of those we had 6+ kill. 4 of those games we had a full lobby that were clearly swf where half escaped and 2 of those games 1 or 2 got killed because lo and behold, cheaters are more common again. I am not sure how exactly 4 generators can pop around 2 min into the game but i have a feeling its a skill check hack that boosts their gen repair speed. So it is clear that its not the killers who need a buff, its survivors who actually play fair. But for some reason the devs only ever listen to killer mains who as survivors loop worse than i do. And with only ~400 hours of total game time, i am not that good of a looper. A bot can loop better than i do. So for the love that is good and fun in this game, bring back those bot fillers! I am tired of those sweaty killers who hardly deserve a win in the first place if they cant even catch a bot when even i with less hours than them, can. In addition, i have noticed odd behaviour on several killers where they run straight for you even though no scratch marks should lead to you, you are not revealed nor any other way for them to see where you are. Yet they come straight towards you anyway. Just the other day i saw a huntress who was impossible to loop because she could see over a boulder that she shouldnt have been able to unlike a survivor who has 3rd person camera. Its like she had aura hacks or could see me whenever i changed direction. The bottom line is, i had fun again in this game till friday. Saturday and sunday, not so much but i played because of the xp and bp boost. Right now, i lose my interest in the game after around 6 or 7 games. Last few days, i dont even bother to try killers because its not fun and since there are less survivor lobbies thanks to bot removal (or so it seems) it seems that most players who either cheat, go full premade or even do both have resurfaced.
Anyways, was fun ranting… lets see how many killers did i trigger with this and how many start complaining again. It is likely that this personal experience will fall on deaf ears with the devs anyways but honestly, they just seem to love killing this game. I keep warning but all i get is flak and see killer boosts and more and more survivors leaving the game, but no… "survivors are too op, they need to be nerfed, i need to get my mori".
Fortunately it will be fun watching those killers waiting for hours upon hours in queue to find survivors who are willing to give themselves up for a beating. It isnt that bad yet, but its heading that way.
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I won't argue with you, since it's your opinion, but I'd like to point out:
Most killers left bots be and let them help the killer side (stealing herbs, doing bot things, running around aimlessly) while focusing on the real players. Of course, not everyone. But I'm pretty sure a large part of the playerbase did this.
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Strange, the bots seemed to help the players out more in my games than they did cause harm tbh. Not to mention keeping killers often occupied by looping them better than a group of randoms. As a killer, i often chose bots as first targets but aimed for any targets of opportunity. That is, if i ran into a group, i would chase the bot rather than others because the bots were always more likely to escape.
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When you say "Who was complaining" Probably 90% of this forum. The front page was plagued with Anti Bot post. Although I dont mind the bots so I am the 10% in the forums. However, at the end of the day we need to find and go with the best solutions.
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Odd, found 4 from previous week that complained about legion and bots, 2 however were praising the bots. 1 of those 4 complaining about legion and bots was actually suggesting how to make the bots better, by not stealing herbs or hatches or to not make them instantly run out the exit gates when a survivor is hooked at egc. So, plagued with anti bot posts? I woulnt say that. While i do agree that when i was playing either as a survivor or a killer during the 2 bots per lobby, it was oddly void of herbs. Its much more likely to run into herbs now but maybe make the bots detect herbs and hatches within a set radius. At hatch phase, run around the map avoiding the killer till a hatch comes into range (that is if the other survivor is not on hook already). Make the bots not consume herbs at all. At egc, make the bots wait with escape unless a killer is within a certain distance, and make them try and help a survivor that is on the hook at egc unless the killer is too close to the exit gate where the bot was waiting. The only time i noticed a bot doing odd things was when i was a killer and the other killer was taken over by a bot and he was mostly "walking" around RPD instead of actually chasing anyone. Still better than ending the whole match just because someone had unstable connection. Well, actually, as a killer, i did notice a few bots running themselves into a corner on the edge of the map but, meh… those were only a couple of occasions. They still seemed to do more good than harm. I still think they made survivor side that had random people solo or duoing more bearable when they kept killers occupied for longer than 5-10 seconds because they actually managed to loop the killer a few times. Although, i must say… it is kind of hard looping legion, especially when the pallets dont seem to want to drop when they should.
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I would say that. Keep digging you will find more I promise you that. @OnryosTapeRentals Made one as well and they weren't wrong despite us having a difference of opinion.
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I'll just say that a bot has never left me to die on hook.
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Hahaha, yes… same here. However, after the bots were removed, i have had around 5 games where i was left on the hook till stage 2 and one time i was left there to die from the first hook to death while 4 other people were scurrying around on the other side of the map, i have no idea what they were doing but they sure were not coming to help.
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