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Can we get a new perk to help stealth?

Swiftblade131
Swiftblade131 Member Posts: 2,051
edited January 2019 in General Discussions

For stealthy survivors,
Besides Urban Evasion, Iron Will, Quick and Quiet, Calm Spirit, Dance With Me, and most perks that read the killers aura, which are just helpful in general.

2 of which I personally use more over the others.

I would love to see a perk that decreases the sound your footsteps make by 50%/75%/100% or make it so you can actually stealth around grass.
How many times have you all been sneaking just fine, killer is around. You are stealthing, he doesn't see you, nor hear your breathing because of the nearby generator or fireplace. He comes towards your tree or whatever you are hiding around to search the general area, you try to sneak to the other side, because if you stay still they will see you, so you move so that you don't get found, but then the worst thing happens!

It's the absolute worst! Stealth play ruined because CRUNCH CRUNCH HERE I AM!

And stealth play in the game needs to be better :smile:

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Comments

  • HavelmomDaS1
    HavelmomDaS1 Member Posts: 1,948
    From my perspective the game is focusing more and more into chasing and stealth gets less and less important. And tbh? I like that. Stealth is FOR ME boring and was only interesting in my first 10 hours of the game. After that I was actively searching for killer interaction. Same with Killer for me. Nothing more boring to search survivors who are stealth masters.
  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    Yes. When a sound Robbies us of stealth, it's a Rotten thing.

  • Swiftblade131
    Swiftblade131 Member Posts: 2,051

    @Rebel_Raven said:
    Yes. When a sound Robbies us of stealth, it's a Rotten thing.

    I see what you did there

  • ReneAensland
    ReneAensland Member Posts: 838

    @ClogWench said:
    Lightweight should reduce footstep sounds

    Agreed.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    A perk like Lightweight reducing footstep sounds looks good to me. Maybe another stealth perk that removes the blood trail/lessons it/or makes it harder to see would be nice as well.

  • Gorgonia
    Gorgonia Member Posts: 1,607
    HavelmomDaS1 said:
    From my perspective the game is focusing more and more into chasing and stealth gets less and less important. And tbh? I like that. Stealth is FOR ME boring and was only interesting in my first 10 hours of the game. After that I was actively searching for killer interaction. Same with Killer for me. Nothing more boring to search survivors who are stealth masters.
    I love to stealth and to leave the game without having  been seen. Some games do require you to face chases (which I’m not really good at) but you can also ninja it thru. With the release of legion, stealth players have been affected a lot and there’s no real counter to it. They pretty much ruined a playstyle. 

    And I agree that lightweight should reduce footstep sounds. At least from a survivor perspective, steps are so much louder now after the patch than they used to be...
  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786
    edited January 2019

    Oh yes, a perk that reduces footsteps sounds (and maybe even fall sounds) would be awesome.

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167
    Read the title and thought Killers do need help with stealth play. Monitor and abuse is great but has little effect on large TR killers.
  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647
    I want items... screw perks!... I want an item that helps stealth.... not cosmetics... items... it's been over 2 years and not a single new item has been added 
  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647
    Also you just got distortion so
  • Swiftblade131
    Swiftblade131 Member Posts: 2,051

    @ClogWench said:
    Lightweight should reduce footstep sounds

    YES!

  • HavelmomDaS1
    HavelmomDaS1 Member Posts: 1,948
    Gorgonia said:
    HavelmomDaS1 said:
    From my perspective the game is focusing more and more into chasing and stealth gets less and less important. And tbh? I like that. Stealth is FOR ME boring and was only interesting in my first 10 hours of the game. After that I was actively searching for killer interaction. Same with Killer for me. Nothing more boring to search survivors who are stealth masters.
    I love to stealth and to leave the game without having  been seen. Some games do require you to face chases (which I’m not really good at) but you can also ninja it thru. With the release of legion, stealth players have been affected a lot and there’s no real counter to it. They pretty much ruined a playstyle. 

    And I agree that lightweight should reduce footstep sounds. At least from a survivor perspective, steps are so much louder now after the patch than they used to be...
    That's fine, every taste is different. Can I ask you how many hours you played survivor?
  • Swiftblade131
    Swiftblade131 Member Posts: 2,051

    @Bravo0413 said:
    Also you just got distortion so

    But that is situational, and only works 3 times. If it's on the end of a Nurse's call it just gets burned through.
    And lockers now. But that is for aura reading dodges.

    I am talking about being sneaky :v

  • ClogWench
    ClogWench Member Posts: 2,582
    Bravo0413 said:
    I want items... screw perks!... I want an item that helps stealth.... not cosmetics... items... it's been over 2 years and not a single new item has been added 
    What kind of item would you recommend for stealth?
  • starkiller1286
    starkiller1286 Member Posts: 890
    Swiftblade131 said:

    For stealthy survivors,
    Besides Urban Evasion, Iron Will, Quick and Quiet, Calm Spirit, Dance With Me, and most perks that read the killers aura, which are just helpful in general.

    2 of which I personally use more over the others.

    I would love to see a perk that decreases the sound your footsteps make by 50%/75%/100% or make it so you can actually stealth around grass.
    How many times have you all been sneaking just fine, killer is around. You are stealthing, he doesn't see you, nor hear your breathing because of the nearby generator or fireplace. He comes towards your tree or whatever you are hiding around to search the general area, you try to sneak to the other side, because if you stay still they will see you, so you move so that you don't get found, but then the worst thing happens!

    It's the absolute worst! Stealth play ruined because CRUNCH CRUNCH HERE I AM!

    And stealth play in the game needs to be better :smile:

    While that sounds amazing it would totally break some maps like  where scratch marks are virtually gone along with flashlights which if you don't have lightborn will be a free escape if you're sounds were entirely silent.
  • ochie
    ochie Member Posts: 2

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    For stealthy survivors,
    Besides Urban Evasion, Iron Will, Quick and Quiet, Calm Spirit, Dance With Me, and most perks that read the killers aura, which are just helpful in general.

    2 of which I personally use more over the others.

    I would love to see a perk that decreases the sound your footsteps make by 50%/75%/100% or make it so you can actually stealth around grass.
    How many times have you all been sneaking just fine, killer is around. You are stealthing, he doesn't see you, nor hear your breathing because of the nearby generator or fireplace. He comes towards your tree or whatever you are hiding around to search the general area, you try to sneak to the other side, because if you stay still they will see you, so you move so that you don't get found, but then the worst thing happens!

    It's the absolute worst! Stealth play ruined because CRUNCH CRUNCH HERE I AM!

    And stealth play in the game needs to be better :smile:

    I am fine with this....just make sure the survivor's repair/heal speed is reduced when stealth is increased.

  • TrAiNwReCk
    TrAiNwReCk Member Posts: 246

    I have a solid pair of headphones and I cant hear footsteps 99% of the time. I can hear breathing and 99% of the time that crunch I hear is me moving through the grass. Perhaps with only over 300+ hours I still have not mastered the acquisition of light sounds within the game.

    My two cents without Hex Ruin to slow the game down, the desire to make it even harder to locate a stealthy player, taking even more precious time from the killer would make things more sweaty for killers.

    Not that all survivors would take advantage of extra stealth, less sounds to clue the killer into your location, but indeed it only makes an already quick game with objective minded survivors to get things done with less concern for being found.

    Not saying your desire for this is wrong. Perhaps the effect it would have on killers is less than I would think, but its only my opinion.

  • TigerKirby215
    TigerKirby215 Member Posts: 604

    May I introduce you to

    Pebble Time?

    On topic: The perk you're looking for is called Lightweight.
    Also Urban Evasion. Also Walking.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    @ClogWench said:
    Lightweight should reduce footstep sounds

    And Predator should increase footstep sounds.

    Doing anything to scratch marks is dumb. Making them larger or smaller has positive and negative impacts for both sides. These perks almost have the opposite effect of what they intend sometimes. Scratch marks should just be at one setting and never change.

  • ClogWench
    ClogWench Member Posts: 2,582
    thesuicidefox said:

    @ClogWench said:
    Lightweight should reduce footstep sounds

    And Predator should increase footstep sounds.

    Doing anything to scratch marks is dumb. Making them larger or smaller has positive and negative impacts for both sides. These perks almost have the opposite effect of what they intend sometimes. Scratch marks should just be at one setting and never change.

    That's actually a really good idea too
  • Gorgonia
    Gorgonia Member Posts: 1,607
    HavelmomDaS1 said:
    Gorgonia said:
    HavelmomDaS1 said:
    From my perspective the game is focusing more and more into chasing and stealth gets less and less important. And tbh? I like that. Stealth is FOR ME boring and was only interesting in my first 10 hours of the game. After that I was actively searching for killer interaction. Same with Killer for me. Nothing more boring to search survivors who are stealth masters.
    I love to stealth and to leave the game without having  been seen. Some games do require you to face chases (which I’m not really good at) but you can also ninja it thru. With the release of legion, stealth players have been affected a lot and there’s no real counter to it. They pretty much ruined a playstyle. 

    And I agree that lightweight should reduce footstep sounds. At least from a survivor perspective, steps are so much louder now after the patch than they used to be...
    That's fine, every taste is different. Can I ask you how many hours you played survivor?
    I started playing in August. Thats 5 months of daily playing, being weekends kinda when I play the most
  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    @ClogWench said:
    Lightweight should reduce footstep sounds

    Agreed. Don't need a new perk just to do the same thing other perks should already do.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    Oh PS: You failed to mention Distortion in your original post. That is a great stealth perk.

  • Entità
    Entità Member Posts: 1,583
    Oh, yes, I suggested Lightweight should make footsteps silent: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/40837/footsteps-sounds-and-lightweight

    About the stealth playstyle, which I love, I wrote a long list of interesting buffs: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/31203/detection-and-stealth-perks-buff