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I tested both Ghoul and Legion after changes

I must say I see no reason to ever play Legion.

They both has very similar theme: I have free easy injure on Survivors + I go fast.

But Ghoul is just "I can do your job but also being a strong killer at the same time". Legion needs more buffs or some kind of rework.

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  • francesinhalover
    francesinhalover Member Posts: 376

    we keep buffing all lower tier killers and solo q loserate will got o 90%

    it's already hard to win vs a legion on solo q, imagine if he gets buffed.

    They already made solo q awfull vs ghosty and myers.

  • Gardhome
    Gardhome Member Posts: 228

    To be fair the only thing Legion need right now is remove terror radius requirement to killer instinct. Cause its absurd that Legion cannot see anyone while undetectable, its the same way if Billy could not use chainsaw while undetectable, or Dracula could not transform with the same effect. Plus susie mixtape exist, that means game can detect survivors without terror radius, the only thing is need to make it basekit.

  • danielmaster87
    danielmaster87 Member Posts: 10,719

    It's not hard to beat Legion in solo. Just split up, stay injured, and loop an M1. The counterplay doesn't change. And really, if the solo lose rate ever gets that bad, we might consider looking at the matchmaking itself, no? That's kind of what's plaguing the game, especially the perception of Kaneki, right now. You're trying to say that because the killer is trying, 2 survivors are trying, and 2 survivors are twiddling their thumbs all match, the killer wins and is therefore OP. What about when all players are on the same level, and there's no forced smurfing? Suddenly the game becomes a lot more even, with the survivors getting down to 1 gen if not finishing them, basically every time. So I don't trust that people are giving Kaneki an accurate assessment, except for the above assertion that he's just a better Legion, because they can't even nail down that matchmaking is a problem more than killer strength is.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,472

    Agree. Ghoul is basically Legion but actually good.

    The trick is buffing in a way that requires skill to capitalize on it so that it doesn’t hurt lower players as much. Like I thought adding a Defeaned status effect to his Feral Frenzy hits would allow mind game potential where it’s like, is he going to hit another person or did he break LoS and is doubling back on me while I can’t hear? It increases his mind games and skill ceiling.

    Maybe some small debuff to the survivors injured by FF that removes the killers red stain for them? Something to help mind games as a basic m1

  • 100PercentBPMain
    100PercentBPMain Member Posts: 3,325

    Nah, yall always sleep on Legion. I've been stanning them even during pre-AoT with old cornwind and dead hard for distance. Yall really sleep on that killer Instinct.

    Ghoul has reveal addons but to Legion, info is basekit. Legion basekit ignores distortion and is a better doctor. You want to get good at killer? Legions still rhe way, because no other killer gives you the metagaming tools needed for split second decisions.

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 5,746

    I disagree. Legion injures faster. Downs slower. Ghoul is the opposite.

  • ContentCreator
    ContentCreator Member Posts: 45

    Legion is a higher skill threshold. Being weaker isn't a bad thing.

    Ghoul is the strongest killer relative to skill level. Why play anyone else unless you want a challenge?