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Cyberpunk Edgerunners Chapter is Meant to be in DBD

toxik_survivor
toxik_survivor Member Posts: 1,216

I mean think about it. Another amazing anime chapter. Adam Smasher is the killer, and the two survivors are David and Lucy, with possible legendary cosmetics as Kiwi and Rebecca. Obviously the map would be a mini night city, then the menu music could be a DBD version of "I really want to stay at your house." I would generally pay $50 for this chapter. I might have to make a separate post in the creations category with all the perks ideas and killer power.

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  • Caiman
    Caiman Member Posts: 3,472

    If we can have DnD, then we can have Cyberpunk.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 22,933

    There's nothing horror about that.

    There's so many other things that'd be better.

  • toxik_survivor
    toxik_survivor Member Posts: 1,216
    edited May 4

    There's not horror about a lot of things in dbd...Ken Kaneki is not horror nor is a clown in an elephant costume or a trapper in a bear costume, nor like half the killers, idk man my Spidey senses are telling me you haven't watched cyberpunk Edgerunners.

    There's nothing horror about that.

    There's so many other things that'd be better.

  • WolfyWood
    WolfyWood Member Posts: 586

    I feel like adding a third David to the game would be a bigger dealbreaker than the actual IP.

  • 100PercentBPMain
    100PercentBPMain Member Posts: 2,746
    edited May 4

    I'll carry on David's energy with Orela

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 22,933

    Disagree.

    DBD would lose its identity. Just because one thing got added doesn't mean I can't still say things don't fit.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 22,933
    edited May 4

    Edgerunners was cool, it's not for DBD.

    Berserk would be more fitting than Edgerunners.

    It would be genuinely criminal if something like Edgerunners got added over Dead Space.

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  • arcaneGospel
    arcaneGospel Member Posts: 297

    On the one hand, I've had my own sort of pipe dream weird license hopes before. I'm still holding out for something from Jojo's like Yoshikage Kira or part 1's Dio Brando. But I do kind of think there's a limit. At least the weirder chapters we've had so far have been… Spooky. I don't think they executed on Castlevania or DnD well, but the idea was there.

    There's not, as I understand, anything horror-themed or even 'could have been horror-themed if they tried' to Cyberpunk. I haven't seen Edgerunners, I guess, but from what I've gathered it really doesn't fit.

  • Man_of_triangles
    Man_of_triangles Member Posts: 378
    edited May 4

    I want Evangelion. This could be the map. But in regards to DbD's identity and what fits the game, I think we crossed the Rubicon with the Dungeons & Dragons chapter that didn't even focus on the more horror-y elements of the IP.

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  • Shroompy
    Shroompy Member Posts: 7,777

    While a chapter is something I dont really see happening, i dont think cosmetics are entirely out of the question

  • Rokku_Rorru
    Rokku_Rorru Member Posts: 2,796

    Honestly neither was attack on titan really, or tokyo ghoul. If the rule for horror is just gore, then Cyberpunk Edgerunners is fine.

  • Pulsar
    Pulsar Member Posts: 22,933

    I hated AoT at the time, still do, but it's gone.

    Tokyo Ghoul, to my understanding, is a horror manga, from the little I've seen. At the very least, it is heavily influenced by horror, which is good enough.

  • Rokku_Rorru
    Rokku_Rorru Member Posts: 2,796

    Attack on Titan is monsters that eat people, with a protagonist that turns into said monster
    Tokyo Ghoul is monsters that eat people, with a protagonist that turns into said monster

  • toxik_survivor
    toxik_survivor Member Posts: 1,216
    edited May 5

    Cyberpunk Edgerunners is a killer that brutally murders people...with a protagonist turing into a cyber psycho (monster) just with a cyberpunk twist. I mean tbh the horror element of DBD went away when trickster was added. Neon bat, glowing knives, kpopish, yeah nah.

    My thoughts personally, when it comes to a Dbd chapter, anything goes. Get a killer Elmo chapter for all I know

  • Man_of_triangles
    Man_of_triangles Member Posts: 378

    I don't agree that "anything goes", but I will agree that Adam Smasher fits into the game better than Vecna or even some original killers like Trickster.

  • CruelLimits1982
    CruelLimits1982 Member Posts: 76

    Yeah imagine getting something non horror related added over Dead Space haha…wouldn't that be cuhrazy?

  • Malkhrim
    Malkhrim Member Posts: 1,192

    Lots of people use this kind of argument once in a while in an atempt to completely dismiss/discredit concerns about the game losing its identity if too much non-horror stuff gets added, but I got to say, the whole argument is bs and never made sense. It started many years ago and originally people would even include "shirtless myers" as example of "non-horror stuff" even though it was just a community meme and not actual content in the game. With time, the game got more content and people got more stuff nitpick as "non-horror", but they still don't care if it makes sense or not.

    Tokyo Ghoul is an horror anime or at least horror-themed. DbD is a horror-themed game. It wasn't my favorite fits. Being an anime doesn't mean there's no horror. You can argue that it's not scary, but not that doesn't mean it is not horror. A bunch of horror movies don't succeed at being scary and are popular for other reasons.

    Mr. Puddles skin was probably the very first thing to ever be used to argue that DbD already had non-horror stuff so it was fine to add any non-horror stuff, back in the day when it was the only joke skin in the game and people had to come up with other stuff to take as an example. What lots of folks seem to ignore is that it's one of the few exceptions, a joke skin initially added because it was a community creation, but stories with more than one genre are a thing, and there is comedy in many works of horror. Would anyone argue that Ghostface, Chucky or Ash don't fit in the game either because they "are not horror"?

    Also, let's not forget that even the joke skins are made to fit into the game aestethic. Come on, compare a joke animal-costume skin in a horror-themed game…

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    …with one in a game that is not horror:

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    The diference is a little obvious. The creator of clown's skin still cared to give it a serial killer look, with a lot of dirt, blood, a stain left by the bloody hand of a victim and even a pocked full of fingers. Still, do a lot of people think that God of War lost any seriouness it had just because it had a joke skin back in the day? Joke skins were always a thing in video games, their whole point is the contrast from the rest of the game, they don't ruin the identity and are not the same thing as a whole chapter/DLC dedicated to something outside the genre.

    Naughty Bear leans more on the comedic side with less horror elements, but come on, it's even a bigger of an exception, it was added an an homage to Behaviour's first really sucessful game, when it was still called Artificial Mind and Movement. And again, it is a joke skin, something that was always part of gaming, not an entire comedy-focused chapter.

    "Nor like half the killers" is not true and you know it. Killers that don't seem to have enough horror in their design are rare enough that it quickly becomes controversial when one is added. Yeah, some people will try to argue that the Twins or the Artist aren't scary enough, but that is just a stretch. The Twins have body-horror, the artist is a mutilated woman who screams like a bird because her tongue was severed.

    I actually do think that killers like the Legion or the Trickster lack something, but that doesn't mean they're outside the horror genre. The Legion's design feels lacking because they look very ordinary while all the killers released before them had far more horrifying looks that made them look special, but they are still horror. Designed to look more human than previous killers, yes, but still something that can be seen in movies like The Strangers, You're Next and the Purge. The Trickster doesn't look very scary, sure, but his entire deal is about being a cruel murderer who pretends to be something else and doesn't show who he is on the outside. That's something that is done since Psycho.

    And I DID watch Edgerunners and I liked it a lot, but it's just clear it's not horror nor intended to lean into it. A cyborg who shoots and smashes people in tragic action sequences doesn't make it horror just like Terminator isn't horror, and there's a reason why BHVR got a Terminator license for Deathgarden, not for DbD. Cyberpsychosis is an allegory for drug addiction. David doesn't turn into a monster, he almost loses control as his falls into addiction as his life spirals down. If anything, Eren from AoT is more of a monster than he is. But that doesn't mean that AoT is horror, no… but you see, all the AoT content is DbD is a skinline, not a chapter. And even then, it's an anime that started about people trying not to get eaten by giant naked people who eat others while smiling, not poor people resorting to organized crime to make a living while trying not to get crushed by late-stage captalism, which is a common theme in the cyberpunk genre. Edgerunners is even further from horror than AoT, so let's not ask for DbD to become like Fortnite and just because there is ONE skinline of an anime that is not horror.

  • toxik_survivor
    toxik_survivor Member Posts: 1,216
    edited May 5

    This was an interesting read, thanks for this perspective. However this game is already more corporate than authentic horror. You basically said it yourself, all the non-horror things added to dead by daylight are fine because of the lore or community representation. You don't need to add horror into the game to keep it horror. You seem to really capitalize on the lore being horror instead of the design or gameplay, which is completely valid, however I feel as if cyberpunks lore would also fit in very well to a game like dbd. The downfall of David is like an absolutely perfect lore piece if you ask me.

    Going back to Cyberpunk not being horror, I believe it's still murderous intent. Dbd in 2025 is more about murderous intent than horror. Tokyo Ghoul is about a kid that is tortured and has to suffer through being a ghoul with side plots of his lover and his best friend. Cyberpunk is about a kid that suffers, makes connections, and goes on a tortuous downward cycle because of cyberpsychosis.

    I believe people find putting cyberpunk into dbd as hard is because Cyberpunk has such a deeper meaning in the anime. It's a very emotional appealing show to watch, which doesn't match up with the demeanor of DBD. Dbd is a "horror game." Catch, hook, kill. Run, do objectives, escape. That's why older chapters like Halloween and your classic killer chase survivor movies fit so well, but there are only so many of these representations.

    Taking a step with Tokyo ghoul I think was huge in opening the horizons to more interesting chapters such as Cyberpunk. On a corporate standpoint it would bring in a lot of money and a lot of new players. I really see nothing wrong with an anime like cyberpunk being introduced into the game.

    Last touch: AOT was added because of corporate reasons (money). Dbd has a huge anime watching fan base and AoT is one of the most popular anime in the world with that monster representation, but if you put AoT into a greater perspective it is so complex, the complexity of AoT does not belong in DBD, but the character designs did imo (I bought every aot cosmetic). Same is said for cyberpunk and Tokyo ghoul, the complexity of the anime doesn't fit dbd, but the character designs and concepts do.

  • Caiman
    Caiman Member Posts: 3,472

    Adam Smasher would fit just fine. He's the epitome of technological power, granted to a completely soulless human being who cares for almost nothing other than killing people weaker than himself for his own enjoyment. He's a cybernetic monster, advanced in design and depraved in nature. Smasher would be great so long as they came up with a good power that represented his overwhelming power.