buffs for legion
hello, I am new here but I also have been playing dead by daylight for quite a bit, one of the killers I like to play as is legion, and I understand that they have recently buffed him, which is a start for him, but it has been said recently that unbound (if I'm correct atleast) was NOT meant to work for legion's vault or any killer power vault, I understand this. However legion benefits this perk ALOT compared to any other power vault killer due to the 10% compared to its original 5%, and if it ever gets reverted where it wouldn't work for power vaults I feel like it would shadow Nerf legion in a way, because using unbound grants legion better speed in fatigue and in chase.
That's is what I'm getting at, legion in a 1v1 scenario lacks any resource outside of power canceling, which would take longer than an M1 chase if you can't zone them properly or don't have ire button, I understand legion was meant as 1v4 type of killer, allowing for quick injures and pressuring the team quickly, the issue with that is to utilize this he would need to down, which he can't often because more likely than not as legion, using your power in chase (unless you have certain add ons or perks for example) is more risky and can only get you so far.
He is very weak in chase and while the buffs are a start, they aren't going to be enough, the buffs I want will maybe allow less of a "mending simulator" and allow legion to chase sed survivor instead of a faster hit and run strategy.
increase legion's speed in fatigue
legion's current speed is a x0.5 of his base movement speed, while yes this makes sense, you can't enter fatigue while in base speed WITHOUT an add on, so let's increase his speed in fatigue, I do not want his fatigue duration to be lowered because if that was done, even by -0.3, it could cause him to be oppressive overall, and I like 2.5 because it gives enough time for survivors to react while also making sure they act fast against him, if not they will be punished, a speed increase of 2.6 while in fatigue seems to be a good spot, the maximum it could be increased would be 2.7, otherwise it would be just a power canceling game, which isn't fun for both parties.
The reason I want his speed increased is too allow him to have some anti-loop on longer tiles but for shorter ones to be out of reach, this forces survivors to chain tiles but isn't a guarantee down or injure, yes I do like the current fatigue speed compared to originally, but it still needs a buff to be viable without perks like unbound.
increase feral frenzy's duration
this is something that was also done, and if you couldn't tell, what they did was a good start, but his kit still needs buffs.
The duration should be increased to another second, 12 seconds of feral frenzy allows him to be able to chain hit easier, which is what he was meant for, and also allows more mobility, allowing him to quickly find a survivor, this essentially makes mischief list basekit, I don't think it needs to be nerfed or adjusted to compensate with these buffs because I think 1 second add on for duration seems fine.
Due to the larger maps and also maps with two floors, this buff helps legion get across maps and he wouldn't be as map dependent on smaller ones compared to before.
allow legion to see pools of blood during frenzy
this is a small buff, but it was one that got removed forever long ago, which considering the current perks, should be brought back, I do not believe whatsoever he should see scratch marks at all (if you already see a survivor, scratch marks aren't as helpful in frenzy anyway).
This should be brought back mainly because it never was an issue with legion, and it could technically help in certain scenarios but is otherwise something that got removed for no reason.
allow his power gauge to be paused while performing a break action (generators and breakable walls)
Alot of people have said it, and I'll said it aswell, make frank's mixtape basekit, (well atleast the power gauge pause).
this gives legion some noticeable utility, and also can consistently be performed, if you're breaking a generator or wall while in power without frank's mixtape, even if sed survivor is quite close to you, the amount of power you would lose would make it an unviable option then just running frank's mixtape.
Thanks for listening to my rant for the buffs I think legion should get, I do think what they did for 8.6.0 was a great start for legion, but it still needs more tuning before making him a more viable killer, and these buffs could also potentially make people who play him to chase down the survivor instead of running away, if you disagree with me or have different types of buffs please let me know, I do like hearing other people's thoughts on this, and again, thank you for listening in!
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another qol update for legion would be these
you can now choose your chase music regardless of addon
The chase theme now plays during frenzy regardless if your chasing or not7 -
honestly, I like that idea, but I feel like it should be a muffled version of it, until the killer meets another survivor perhaps?
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Legion is now just worse ghoul. He really needs some love
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this is probably (hopefully) some easy buffs for him, I didn't want to make a whole rework to his add ons or basekit but some noticeable changes which makes his counterplay more rewarding when pulled off and also increase his chase power.
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I really like these ideas, I totally agree with you. I posted some suggestions for changes to Legion in my account, you should definitely check it out.
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I stated my opinions on how to make legion better (good at least) as this won't make him B or A anyway, but…
→ Increase speed of feral frenzy from 6m/s to 7m/s
→ Increase duration of FF to 15s
→ Reduce slashes needed to instadown from 5 to 4
→ Decrease FF cooldown from 3s to 1.9s
→ Increase movement speed bonus per hit from 0.2m/s to 0.5m/s
→ Give him iridescent button basekit
→ Give him ruler basekit
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I did! however I do think you went a little overboard imo, but I do like what you were trying to do with it, maybe a few tweaks and it would be pretty good!
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nice! here are some changes I would do to it… (with my current opinion)
speed reduced to 6.3m/s (was 7m/s)
reverted the change of 2.7 FF cooldown speed back to 2.3 to compensate for 1.9 fatigue time (or make his fatigue 2.1-2.3)
thats kinda the only issues I see with it, so yeah I kinda like it, maybe slightly overtuned but not very harsh.
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I know that those are a lot of changes, but, if you put them all together, Legion would still be a B tier killer at best, no way close to the stronger killers, so I really think the changes I proposed would be good for the game. Lots of people were trash talking me in the comments, but I explained to them why my changes wouldn't be op, check it out as well if you haven't already seen it 🥰💖
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I think >these< changes were a bit overboard. Especially the iri button base kit, but several others. With these, Legion would just turn into a closer version to Kaneki, don't you think?
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Which would make him low A tier at best, he rests in F tier for a while.
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No more buffs for legion. I am sick of facing them, all running the same iri button spirit fury thana builds.
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I forgot to say to not add iri button due to that but no not really overboard, they are increasing and buffing legion's power which helps get faster downs but also allowing survs to still have a good chance for an escape, the whole point of my update was to allow it to be more rewarding for doing correct counterplay against legion, and make legion a better 1v1 killer then he currently is, but I understand where your getting from!
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I think its best to not make him that due to his hate, I want him to be more B- or C+ just so he has a good playerbase and power but also not hated
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The only way to stop this is funnily enough, giving him buffs, while this may increase his pickrate it will also allow better variation of his perks.
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Because spirit fury and iri button is probably only viable way to play him. At this point you also give up on slowdown perks. He got some buffs, yes… but his basekit is still not good enough. Look at buffs they gave to Vecna, who already was in pretty decent spot.
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