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Anticheat Upgrade - MMR change into "pools"
Hello. My name is Fraankun, a small twitch streamer that have been playing your game for 1.5k hours, in the last 2 years. I think there is a big problem about cheaters and subtle one are specifically the worse.
I know mechs and techs to spot a cheater right away, knowing the exact time it takes to get to a tile to another or how many rounds you can loop at shack, and that came with years and years of gaming experiences beside the big amount of hours i spent in the game.
I know that the fight against cheater is endless, and as painful as for me a player, it's for you the devs.
But I literally had cheaters pulling off some insane hacks that once burned my whole CPU, at that costed me 200$+ of repairs, and ofc i didn't get a better cpu knowing the risk that while playing the game this might happen again.
What I think is the best solution, for this problem, is removing the current MMR system(wich will lead you into encounter this subtle hackers) and make 2 different queues.
One for people like me that only run system's program and processes(I don't even use Nightlight to change the icons of the game!), and another queue for people who get reported and have suspicious processes and insane stats.
Instead of banning them just to get a new account/stole it/claim it from free from the past getaway, to just return to mess with honest people like me who has spent lots of money in your game. Keeping them playing in those queues so they can face eachothers without knowing that they are in the "cheaters only pool".
This in the long run will sort your player base and decrease the amount of annoying subtle cheaters, they will have their fun playing against other cheaters as well, while we, normal and legit players, will have our fun playing a clean game, without the risk of burning our pcs.
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Agreed, please BHVR the issue of hackers who blatantly stream their hacks and sell their services at the expense of the community cannot be ignored any longer, it's time to hold streaming platforms accountable as well and perhaps it's time for BHVR to consider legal action against streaming platforms that cater to hackers and allow them to sell hacking services
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If a cheater already wants to break the games anti-cheat, what stops them from faking the game out and making it think their cheat software is a whitelisted app? The reason stuff like this isn't used in anti-cheats very often is because its not that hard to workaround. All you'd do is punish someone that has some weird CPU application open, putting them into the "cheater" pool. While you would get longer queues because of the short list of acceptable applications that can be running (which, again, isn't really going to prevent anything).
The anti-cheat on our clients and BHVR server validation should just be their focus. The server seeing an Ace fly in the sky and screaming 500 times a second should probably set off some red flags.
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Man, the cheaters dev update alongside with the anticheat develop team. If cheaters dont get banned but moved into pools they won't realize their cheats got discorver and they will not update it, or if they do it will be at a slower pace.
I'd rather wait 5 min in queue for a clean game, that dc and get dc penality for leaving a match where 2 survivors are cheating.The someone who has to be moved into the "pool" should still have insane stats(flying moving around faster every time he get into a corner, coz cheaters are bad at the game, but they most of the time aren't stupid to use the cheat on plain sight, and get free boost on loops when you lose line of sight, and i've seen cheaters UI that does that automatically)
So if you have weird processes running, as long as you get no reports and no ingame weird stats, you'd still remain in the normal pool.
On the other hand, cheaters will get to fight other cheaters, having insane loooong queues, and eventaully and gratefully stop playing the game and go cheat at CS or COD.Not making this pools, and having no way to spec a game during its play its giving them the ego boost they want, and while they break the game, making it look poorly and embarassing the DEV team, the fair and legit players unistall the game out of frustation to not understand what's wrong with them.
While in High MMR pools basically the 25% of players are cheating since the current system is actually rewarding and welcoming them.0 -
Even better idea - console only crossplay! Devs, consider this. Think of how great it would be for the game
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You're not realzing;
Making new accounts to avoid these pools (and avoid bans) is very easy in DBD, both on Steam and Epic
Placing people in pools makes it obvious you're being placed into cheating pools (another reason this isn't used very often)
Cheaters can already place themselves into other peoples queues, pools aren't going to do anything to them
Plus everything else I mentionedBetter anti-cheat does more than a system that will do more harm to normal players than cheaters lol. If DBD had systems that were watching people for their "insane stats" you're much better off just removing their accounts than some wishy-washy queue system.
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And making a track system on hardware its also very easy, so no matter how many account they have, its their hardwate that get moved into the pools. And if they move into people lobbies, Ban hammer.
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They already do that, and you can already get around that.
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May i question what and how you know what they do and what they don't do? Or you are supposing everything you think its the truth when its not?
As far as i know the only way to see if something works or not its to test it. But clearly you have clairvoyance to know what works and what not.0 -
BHVR has (at least somehwat) clarified measures they take on cheaters in stuff like their livestream Q&A's or Reddit discussions. Trying to hardware ban cheaters is something they've mentioned. I'm not just making random stuff up?
I'm not going to point out where, but people that use software to cheat in the game all have communities for it. It's not hard to learn what works/what doesn't. Like any other game. :p
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I like the idea. I know it could make queue times longer I am sure, but at the expense of not having to play against hackers I would be fine with it.
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