can we nerf the ghoul already
thats it. virtually no cooldown, very boring and low skill. no skill expression. also make dedicated russian servers so only russians play on them. we dont want russians on eu servers. thanks!
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No servers for dbd exist on Russia. They all connected to Frankfurt.
And half of the “russian” are players from Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and many other countries where Russian second popular language.That's funny I received both slurs and racist offence from both sides. Like “typical Russian player” or “lame western”. Being Asian at that time… that's just funny.
No one better. And looking at your post, u kinda worthy to get type of people u receive in lobby.
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"can we nerf the ghoul already"
Do you have anything pacticular in mind? did you ever play the Ghoul and said "this is too strong" or "this is too weak"?
Ghoul is more or less like legion, very strong in injuring the survivor but not good in finishing. Hes basicly a m1 killer at that point who closes gaps with jumping instead of running fast (like legion).
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Ghoul and Legion are not comparable imo. Ghoul has stronger map mobility and power to down survivor than Legion.
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It would be better if you state in what way the Ghoul should be changed specifically. Also it'd be better if you post separate post about servers instead of just mixing two topics into one.
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Ghoul and Legion are not comparable
You cannot compare killers in DBD? Are you sure you are in the right forum? I mean honestly if you cannot compare killers than i dont see a reason to nerf ghoul. But in my opinion you can compare him very good with Legion or Mastermind.
Ghoul has stronger map mobility and power to down survivor than Legion.
And now you are comparing Ghoul and Legion? Im really confused. Yes Ghoul has stronger map mobility, his power to down survivor is slightly stronger because i think the cd when he drops out of his ability is a bit shorter. I agree that Ghoul is stronger as legion but does that mean that ghoul needs to be nerfed?
He has the same disadvantage that he cannot kill with his power.
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Legion and ghoul are only comparable on the barest of surface levels. Ghoul looks at you and you get injured. Often around obstacles. Legion has to respect pallets, traverse to your location and can be juked. This drastically changes how you play vs them. They're nothing alike except on the most superficial, misinformed reading of their power.
So legion injures you away from your team. They have to chase you without any sort of augment. The most basic of m1 killers. Get a stun, leave the loop. Drop a pallet. Leave the loop. Lose LoS, leave the loop. Actually loop it and fake and whatever.
You have no such options vs ghoul. Get a stun? He doesn't care. Vaults pallet and downs you or vaults and turns every rotation into a 50/50. Try to leave the loop? He catches up instantly, cancels power and downs you. Lose LoS and leave loop? Catches you again. Can't make distance. Even if you predrop a filler pallet after the grabs and leaps after you be can just break it while his power recovers. The best a survivor can hope for is to turn a loop into a 50/50. It's pathetic.
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I dindt say they are the same. But you can compare all killers. You can also compare Trapper and Ghoul.
Their power is pretty different the point is that they cannot down something with their power. Ghoul has (if he wants to kill you) also to respekt pallets
Vaults pallet and downs you or vaults and turns every rotation into a 50/50. Try to leave the loop? He catches up instantly, cancels power and downs you.
Thats what you do with legion too. catch up cancle your power and down the survivor. You know who doesnt even need to cancle the power? Wesker
Even if you predrop a filler pallet after the grabs and leaps after you be can just break it while his power recovers.
Wesker can pretty mutch do this too. From the "downing" not injuring of a survivor wesker is better in pretty mutch everything.
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He's basically a better Legion, with some antiloop, but generally braindead play style and double the movement speed, both during power and during fatigue. I'd love to see the skill ceiling of both Kaneki and Legion be higher, for instance: Ghoul's hit boxes being smaller, requiring an accurate tackle to count as a hit (and not working in multiple floors, which is bullshit to go against) and similarly with Legion, but the hit box would get smaller as more hits they land. It'd also be nice if there was a brown addon for both that show the hitbox of the survivor in order to help new players get better with them. What do you guys think? If you have more interest in some changes (about Legion mostly, but also Kaneki), check the posts in my profile
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I don't understand why he can immediately m1 after jumping over pallets is this a bug ? legion and wesker can't attack 1 second after vaulting so you can loop a bit. Hitbox of the free injure need to be reduced it's more than half of the screen, it's impossible to miss hitbox is the size of a truck
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While I find the frequent mending obnoxious when facing Ghoul and Legion, neither are awful, in my opinion, to face in chase because they struggle to down a survivor. Though, I do think it would be cool if they changed the Deep Wound effect on Ghoul to only occur on a “perfectly timed grab-attack.”
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It wasn't originally like this but bad players complained about it on PTB (although he already was S tier worthy killer on it) so they decided to significantly increase the vault speed for live release. Devs now are in "monitoring" mode.
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Ghoul has been Nerf'd 5 times already, no its time for you all to learn how to counter him, research playing against him, or just learn how to take an L
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Ghoul is more or less like legion, very strong in injuring the survivor but not good in finishing. Hes basicly a m1 killer at that point who closes gaps with jumping instead of running fast (like legion).
Yeah, that's getting quite old.
Kaneki is not anywhere near to being "basically M1 killer". He can easily dash right next to a survivor with fatigue lower than Legion. That's not M1 killer behaviour.
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Are there times your not Asian?
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I didn't say here that I live in Russia or something. I’m watching Russian streamers and speak on this language, so I am part of Russian community as well. People from CIS countries, even Ukraine, considers mainly by other people as part of Russian community. We don't have big prejudice here, few members of Russian comp teams are Ukranian even. I communicate freely with people from many CIS countries in DBD fandom, and mainly we count ourselves as Russian part of community.
If I’ll tell I’m from Uzbekistan and start suddenly yapping about Russian streamers people would be confused. Yet it doesn't cancel that fact that when I receive racist offences, it doesn't cover actual true lol. At least because this is racist offence, at max because I was in Russia once and has little from Slavic roots
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I don’t think he’s that strong.
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Devs never listen or understand what has to be done until the moment they will loose online and they will regret about it a lot. A lot of perks should get buffs like self care should be 70% speed and ignoring all negative effects, iron will and calm spirit should be one perk. Ghoul needs to get 4.4 , no more pallet vaulting, remove autoaim and increase his cool down up to 12 seconds. Blight remove breaking palles with ability only with addons, remove all addons that increase his speed, set 4.4 since he has enough mobility. Nurse 2 blink doesnt work through objects. Also they should show to the killer if people are playing full stack together like in texas chainsaw the game. Separate gates as far from each other as possible don't spawn them random. Maps like forgotten ruins, myer's map and fields need a strong buff. When killer is holding you and not closing the hatch, hatch should autoclose during 2 mins.
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The only one way how people can motivate devs do things faster and balance the game is to abandon the game and stop donating. And push more on all social and forums. People never move until the have a good motivation to do it.
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I mean, he is definetly not weak either. I would put him in A tier just for his mobility.
I think Blight, Nurse, Billy are stronger than him overall, but I hate to play against him so much more.
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People dont want him to be nerfed cz then they will have to go back to playing Legion and struggling at high MMR, they love pub stomping with ez killer
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