2v8: BHVR should be super buff survivors and super nerf Legion and Oni, to balance 2v8 queue times
In 2v8, BHVR should be super buffing survivors, and super nerfing Legion and Oni, to balance the 2v8 queue times.
We really should be making 2v8 massively survivor sided, to get the queue times more balanced.
Edit: Alternatively, give survivors a bunch of ridiculous items or abilities, that are too powerful for 1v4, like unavoidable flashbang grenades that only affect killers. Or fog crystals that completely block killer vision, but survivors can easily see through them. The killer queue times are so horribly bad, that 2v8 could easily support these ridiculous items.
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A completely reasonable take
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minor surv buff major oni/legion nerf so its not just dead on killer side instantly
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well at least I could get into killer games without it being a 30 min wait
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just remove legion from the mode. Nerfing won’t help or change anything. Also the cages need to move more frequently I’ve been camped so much and the only time it seems to move is when another survivor moves in for the save which ends up making me go second or out right killing me.
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Well, it definately will be reason to not touch 2v8 at all for me. I don't enjoy insta win or insta lose options.
I honestly completely fine with current solution and have a lot of fun playing 2-3 survivor matches in between killer matches, because I play 1v4 same way.-5 -
Just delete both from the mode, they DO NOT belong in it. Oni's weakness is completely negated by having two killers(double value with legion). Legion basically ruins everything else, playing injured against two killers doesnt work, he gets IMMENSE value for the other killer just by existing.
NO AMOUNT of nerfing will fix their fundemental flaws in this mode. THEIR POWERS ARE DESIGNED FOR 1V4 where they have balanced weaknesses and DO NOT work in 2v8, period.
There is nothing wrong with not having every killer available in modes that do not suit them!
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I agree 100%
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Just remove Legion from this game mode and increase BPs incentive to x8.
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I can agree here, because if they kill / remove 2 killers from the mode, it may be beneficial for some survivors, but definitely not for killers and que time
In the first iteration of this mode, there was also a long que for half an hour or more, because there are few killers / killer bundles
Also, survivors screamed and were indignant that they didn’t want to play this mode because every game there were the same killers (Blight + Nurse, Hunteress + Nurse)
Also in the past there were people who, like you, said that they would like to try this mode, but it does not have their favorite killer, so they do not want to play at all
The problem is rather that killers don't want to play on other combinations that are either ineffective or less effective and this irritates the survivors
For example, compare Legion and Oni/Spirit with Deathslighter and Oni/Spirit (at the same time, the combination of the Deathslinger and Billy can be effective), or Spirit and Trapper - they have abilities that don't help each other at all, even considering that classes exist1 -
I think the mindset is that 2v8 is meant to be a testing ground for AI bots on each Killer, but you're totally right—adding every single one to the mode will make it unbearable. Imagine facing a Dracula/PH duo. The mode would still have to be balanced as if you were facing Trapper/Ghostface.
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2v8 is a big disappointment. I don't want your 5x bloodpoints. I just want a balanced game and not die to legion + oni all the time!
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real
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If I was to change Legion and Oni, I'd make it so that Legion doesn't apply Deep Wound on Healthy Survivors, and make it so that Oni requires a lot more Blood before he can activate Blood Fury
Most of their pain points come from 2v8 Survivors just not being very good and actively feeding them, if more people played Medic and the recently buffed Escapist and actually tried to work as a team, they'd be far less of a pain
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Eh, I'd rather have a gamemode that is enjoyable for both sides.
And, imo, Oni is not a problem, just Legion.
All the other killers are fine for the most part (unless you get a stacked combo but what can you do), but Legion makes it all easier for literally every killer aside Ghostface and Deathslinger.
I think that they have finally nailed the balance scales with this patch, so only thing to do now is actually innovate on Classes (give me a chest class pls) and try adding killers that will not break the mode.
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I think that maybe adding an XP boost would work better.
Some people have enough BP to not care.
Iri shards though? Never enough of those, especially if skins are included in the discussion.
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Survivor got more miserable with each iteration. Just bullshit Oni and Legion spamming frenzy.
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Why not both? I'd consider playing for 10x BP and removal of legion alone, even more is better. Even if the game mode is trash, because thats lots of BP to fuel my killer add ons. Because right now i do the challenges then just go play something else while 2v8 is active since 1v4 ends up being an ultra sweat fest and not very fun as well.
2v8 is a literal deterrent for playing the game. 🤷♂️
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Well… I think we all here agree Legion needs to go.
Aside from attracting more survs to play the queue times for killer would be also made better with less people wanting to play this role and most Legion players just want to do something that they can shut off their brains/don't want to use it.
Less killer players + more survs = better queue times.THIS!
Enjoyable for both sides is the way. Just add more variety in classes and survs will come and play, but please don't add DH, DS or any of these other 2nd chance crap to 2v8.I still want to see both these killers being added with Midwich as a map (high chances of a Konami 2v8).
Just give Winged Boots and Magical Ticket as basekit for Dracula to compensate the larger maps and that's it.0 -
They don't need to megabuff anything but they're really afraid of using incentives, 30-40 min queue is crazy just go higher with your incentives, use it… give me x10 bloodpoints stop being so lukewarm
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It could be a viable alternative.
Honestly, even though ‘play while you wait’ is a great idea to combat long queue times, playing 3 survivor games to get 1 killer game in an hour is still too unbalanced, so anything that encourages people to play more survivor is welcome.
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Throw in double/triple XP and I'm there.
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I would love a buff/change to guide. Easily the most underwhelming class to play.
If Guide had flashbang, or head on, or quick gambit, it would actually feel impactful. As it stands you don’t really feel like you have any abilities or impact aside from maybe one blast mine stun every other game.
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2v8 is already survivor sided. In normal DBD there are 5 gens and roughly 12-15ish pallets per map (depending on map. In 2v8, you have twice the survivors and killers, but only 8 gens to do, and there's like 50+ pallets on the map.
The queue times are a problem because of the novelty of being able to play killer with a friend. If they just left 2v8 on for like 6 months, it would wear off and eventually start to even out. But the problem is the game probably couldn't survivor 6 months of horrible queues, so its a bad idea to do it.
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I did Blast Mine a tunneling Legion part of a BF/GF duo a couple times and that felt pretty satisfying.
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Legion (and sometimes Oni) are just the loudest symptoms of the bigger problem: 2v8 isn’t designed for balance, it’s duct-taped DbD with double the bodies. That’s why people either get stomped instantly or sit through 30-minute queues for one match of aura spam.
Nerfing Oni/Legion or super-buffing survivors isn’t really going to solve it. At best you get a band-aid — survivors feel strong on paper, killers feel miserable, and the queues don’t get better because the novelty is still on the killer side.
The real fix would be for BHVR to actually treat 2v8 like its own mode (or even its own game):
- Give survivors more archetypes beyond “slightly different gen runner.” A Ritualist, a Chest-specialist, a Meatshield — things that change how you play.
- Make killers synergize instead of tripping over each other’s powers. Right now Legion’s free injuries just turbocharge whoever their partner is, which is why he’s hated here.
- Build modular maps so it feels like a chaotic horror anthology, not the base game with 8 people shoved in.
And yeah, some killers just don’t belong in 2v8. That’s not an insult — it’s reality. Legion’s whole design is ‘free mass injury with no counterplay,’ which is already boring in 1v4 and outright unplayable in 2v8. Oni, same deal — his weakness evaporates when another killer is farming or feeding him blood orbs.
So I agree — Legion shouldn’t be in this mode at all. But the bigger picture is that 2v8 needs to grow beyond “let’s scale up 1v4.” Otherwise we’ll just keep arguing about which killers ruin it this week instead of making it into the horror experience it could actually be.
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