How to win with the new changes!!
Survivior main, heard were getting a buff so lets find out how to maximize our advantage early on!!
TUNNELING
when a killer hooks you, make them tunnel you! If they chase you and hook you, they will be punished with not being able to kick gens and survivors get a gen boost, if they dont chase you, feel free to body block them, stun them, or completely negate their power depending on killer, nothing more fun then punishing killers for doing their objective!
SLUGGING
This one is fun, by default killers that rely on snowballing for pressure like twins suck, but lets exploit this more! With these new changes sabo squads will have no counter with us having practically basekit unbreakable. We no longer have to have any risk by using unbreakable, no mither, or anything! and can use the most second chance perks to stun the killer and prevent pick-ups! I think the only counter to this would be for the killer to go afk, or wait 40-50 minutes for all survivors to bleed out!
who else is excited for these changes? I feel it totally makes the game only a little bit killer sided now, and this update totally breaks the win difference between soloq and swf, love the new update!
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Let me debunk your accusations before they get put in game even.
You wont be able to get bodyblocked you lose collision.
And if you try to sabotage the killer it will remove your elusive state most likely and will be adjusted according to everyone mentioning this and since Ryan and Mandy are both silent means they are collecting all of our opinions.
The 6 hook state will be lowered to 4 hook states and "if a survivor dies by any means before that" will be changed if a survivor dies by their own cause or by other survivor incopetance will be at fault not killer fault.
Also sorry to break it to you but 2nd chances perks are being re-adjusted to match the new changes.
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Its all mentioned in the tiny "dev notes" stating as a whole perk variety will be re-adjusted according to these new changes.
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so i wont be able to body block the killer anymore? Aw man :(, its a shame i cant body block whilst stunning and potentially disabling their power,
Also, im fine if i lose the elusive state, with how many buffs i get, and how many debuffs the killer gets for doing their objective, im basically still safe!
And finally, bhvr has a histoty of being vague with how they plan to change perks and absolutely skewing them! I wonder if they will make the 2nd chance perks even better, or make them unusuable. This applies to both sides by the way.
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They wont make them unusable, just re-adjusted as they mentioned, think majority wont be getting any rework just adjusted so u cant just stacking them and empowering the whole anti tunnel and slugging.
Yeah so pretty much it will be adjusted so if you do anything special like that you lose all of your protection but still if a killer tries to hook you and kill u before 6 hook states yall get a buff but if they just let u slugged u got 90s to crawl elsewhere before the killer gets another down and comes back for you.
Which is something that will be adjusted too to be 4 hook states most likely to match current grim embrace and pain reso perks
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Do you have any concept of how they will be changing related perks? Or are you just assuming bhvr will just change them accordingly like they say every patch, and having the most miserable meta for a good 3 months?
Also for your 2nd statement your assuming the survivor feels the need to hide away from the killer for the 90s? Are you forgetting that the killer is punished if they hook the same survivor? And heavily punished if the said survivor dies on hook? These changes basically make hooked survivors have a free get out of jail card, with zero counter play for killers. Whats worse is they can also pick themself up, so killers cant just put them in the dying state and move on with their day.
And them saying its being reduced to 4 isnt really impressive as it can be exploited just as it could before.. but good analogy though
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The way i see it right now is:
Get a 1st down and a hook → rotate with the BBQ & chilli baseline (+ your own perks and killer ability if any) --> get another down from survivor option B, C , D —> acquiring 2nd hook state on that while the 1st person gets unhooked → upon hooking the person you can see the person that just unhooked aka their aura but not elusive state unhooked person leaving you with --> two options, go for survivor that unhooked or go for the one that was doing other objectives like gens and such —> then you acquire 3rd hook state and maybe even put the original survivor 1st and 2nd in dying state making it 4 or 5 hooks.
That is my best bet they will balance it like that around 4 hook states not 6 because this is way too extreme for entire population of killer rosters.
Generally speaking even if you wont be caught while you are in elusive and trust me to stay in elusive state you will probably only be allowed to recieve heal and not give healing to the other survivor by any means only dropping an item or picking it up.
There is a big chance that survivor can sniff you out by using the survivor aura that was just unhooking you to pin point general area.
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I didnt say they are reducing it to 4 just yet this all just speculation and collective feedback off of community.
Im saying 6 hooks is unrealistic and way too brutal and extreme and 4 hook state is way more realistic number healthier to outplay even againts swfs when playing along as a killer getting free haste + bbq + pop
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And yeah this in short means if anything it wont be a likely easier free win, not unless killer fumbles and kills any of your mates at under 4 or 6 hook states by promoting face camping proxy camping.
Which is also going to require slight re-adjustment so you cant leave your mate to die or else killer gets a free 3 v 1 now without any penalties
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What you can expect will happen is majority of killers now playing to get that free haste, bbq, pop then rotating constantly until the survivor gets unhooked and going straight for the person that unhooked you then downing them and hooking them, it gives you a choice of staying in elusive state until u do gen repair or open chest or heal others or yourself.
My best guess is thats how they intend the system to work, if you decide to be in elusive state you lose access to doing actions to repair gen or heal others by staying "off the record" basically and making it 3v1 temporarily because killer cant find u through their bbq until u either come out of closet, repair gen or heal or clense or bless and stuff
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