Please dont let the monitor and abuse change go through
These changes, I feel, are fairly tone deaf in the goal of the change.
The changes are
Monitor and Abuse:
While in a chase, your terror radius is now increased by 5/10/15% (was 6/7/8 meters).
Otherwise, your terror radius is now decreased by 15/20/25% (was 6/7/8 meters).
While on paper this is a side grade, it really is a nerf to most of the killers that actually use monitor and abuse.
Killers like pig, SM, and hag could use this perk to get a 16-meter TR., It only goes down to 20, which, although it isn't that big of a deal, it's still a pointless change. Now it is only really good on 32-meter TR killers, cuz killers with a 40-meter TR are better if running an undetectable perk, because with the new monitor their terror radius is still 30 Meters, which is still rather big, so fair pointless to run.
This change only reduces the number of killers this perk is actually fun on
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It could be funny for shenanigans if you pair it with terror radius add ons and have a map wide terror radius
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It will become better in meme builds on Blight, or Wesker with Distressing. I have no idea how big their TR is going to be, but a lot…
but yeah, for killers where it was actually good to use, it's definetly worse now.
It is same for 32m TR killers, but not many of them would use M&A instead of Unforseen/Trail of torment.0 -
I agree with the original poster, it's honestly pretty uncommon and could use a slight buff.
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I agree. While it is technically stronger with this change on the 40m TR killers, they don't really get nearly as much value from it as the 24m TR killers do and I'd consider the change a nerf overall. It should be reverted
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The change does kind of seem pointless, and I don't understand the reasoning behind it.
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I really, REALLY hope it will get reverted.
This change screws over killers like Hag, Myers and Pig, killers who actually could and would use this perk, and instead buffs the A+ and S tiers like Hillbilly, Wesker and Blight.
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Going to bump this cause it's quite true
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I forgot to add to this during the ptb but better late than never. This nerf is indeed pointless. Both the smaller decrease on 24m TR killers, but also an unneeded nerf to the Infectious Fright combo, which is one of my most fun perk combos in the game (before anyone says it, it's not for slugging, just for the info and making people scream).
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"Having a 320-hour novice making balance decisions couldn't possibly be a bad idea."
~ Some brilliant BHVR shot-caller
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Yeah there's a lot of questionable perk changes in the upcoming chapter.
Leverage in my opinion is also an overall nerf.
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God, give us back our old M&A, or at least buff the reduction to 33% so that it remains the same on 24m terror radius killers
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I have a tinfoil hat theory:
Monitor was nerfed so they could release PTB Furtive Chase, which was created because Beast of Prey synergizes with the after-hook Bloodlust.
So you can blame both of these problems on them trying to make space for Bloodlust after hook, which, spoiler, does not restrict certain A+ killers from using it with their power.
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I guess with the recent TR changes to Ghostface, Pig, and Skull Merchant (32 → 24), players started using M&A on these killers to have a constant 16meter TR. The developers probably saw the higher pickrate and disliked it (or the slightly variety some killers suddenly had)
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We need to pester the devs into reverting this
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Honestly, i don't get why that would even be bad. No one was complaining about it, no one disliked how they were.
If they really want to keep it a percentage based thing, they should either increase the percentage to like 33%, make your red stain invisible outside chase (would be actually really in tune with the rest of the perk and bring it's value slightly up considering it's not meta by any stretch of the imagination) or both.1 -
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I agree. These killers have built-in stealth anyway which means survivors should be more careful than usually, so getting value from M&A is kinda difficult and the perk is also easy to call out due to the increased tr when in chase.
The perk was fine and it was nice to had some variety perk-wise but now... the perk is kinda in a sad spot. Never a problematic perk but still nerfed...
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agreed OP, does anyone know why they changed it like this to begin with? Seems way more complicated/difficult to understand exactly what the terror radius will be like this.
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Likely they wanted to make it percent based so it wouldn't mess with what they wanted to do with furtive chase, or they just really disliked the effect on the few 16m terror radius killers, but even on old Myers tier 2, when that was one of the only killers it was a 'good' pick at, it wasn't meta.
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As of now: even Adertha went and made a video on it.
https://youtu.be/JHzIeoVNlVk?si=zNC34Wmu1v3U73jy
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And he is right, the perk is useless now.
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