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Why I’m Hanging Up My Medkit: Reflections After 2,500 Hours
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I hope things improve before May, but realistically if we get improvements by May of 2026 I'd be happy given how long some other things have taken.
Oh, wait, that's not how you used the word May (that is how I read it at first and I was wondering if I had missed an announcement of something happening in May).
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You say about this SWF being powerful like a myth yet you rarely play solo and everything you advocate for is directly benefiting SWF while not giving solo players a second thought or how it would effect them because you dont play solo.
For the thousandth time, I have played plenty of soloq. I didn't come to this game knowing anyone who played it. How is basekit Kindred or Bond advocating for SWF? That's a solo buff. I've even said soloqers should have a limited fifth perk slot to choose a team info perk. I use Empathy in all my matches, solo or SWF. This is me advocating for giving soloqers something while gaining nothing if I'm partying up. I've also favored the chat wheel option, as well as in-game tips to help with macro. I don't need any of that.
you said it yourself you avoid solo because you dont want awful team mates….even if they try to be team players they can still be bad players as you know.
It's you. You're the teammate I'm trying to avoid.
It comes across like your bitter that players like me that actually use their brains and avoid the killer while doing the objective can win but the people that go for chases lose.
Me, bitter? I'm quite happy with my situation right now. My killer and survivor stats are fine, my matches are fun, I have a good time playing with people. You, however, seem pretty obsessed with SWF since you can't stop talking about it. Sorry people have friends? Not everyone gets pleasure from existing in isolation and watching others fail. I don't want the hatch, I want the whole team out.
you think griefer and solo players that do challenges like escape via the hatch or do stuns or cleanse totems care about being a team player?
Are they really griefers or on they on death hook and trying to unload the killer onto someone who's taken zero aggro the whole match and has no hooks? There aren't all these trolls running around throwing matches on purpose. If you're encountering an inordinate amount, it's probably because of how you play. People don't like rats. I've had many a killer let me go because I was active and someone else was ratting. I just had a Wesker the other day let me and my duomate finish 4 gens after I went for an unhook while injured because he realized the other remaining survivor was ratting. People will do a whole 180 because of rats.
When you play solo regularly night after night, not just accasionally, you will see why the idea of a team win/loss would not go down well for you as a solo player.
I've done plenty of that and that's why I want it. I want a reason to solo. Change the wincon and you chage the whole game.
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It seems like that but the best start is to have the most gen progress before the first down.
So as experienced player i will run into the middle of the map and search for the killer. Then i will act like i certainly dont want to be chased (teabag as aggro could work, but i dont bm) and loop as long as possible. If im later on deadhook, i will disappear and play it safe. But if i have zero hooks i will just do gens 10m next to a chasing killer.
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i know you have played solo, but now you dont….why? because you have said you dont want awful team mates. you must know how rough soloq can be to actively avoid it and prefer swf. your even against comms in solo because you think people will be toxic for the sake of being toxic. Yet you think aura read would help and no help people to be toxic? maybe the people taking no aggro all match struggle with looping? leading the killer to them sets them up to be downed fast and potentially tunneled out. It makes sense so avoid the killer if you cant loop that well…only loop when you have to but your in the mindset that anyone avoiding the killer is a rat and should be snuffed out or forced to take chase which is utter nonsense and part of the problem with soloq and part of why killers tunnel. no need to even look for the weak link, the team has lead the killer to them, easy down.
you avoid people like me? the ones doing gens? not the greifers? not the cheaters? not the awful people that cant loop more than 10 seconds? i think that says a lot to be honest, thats what come across as bitter. there are far worse players than me out there lol im the one doing gens when no one else is, im the one making the killer look around for me wasting their time, not being tunneled out instantly. But im the type of player you want to avoid.
im winning my matches, i dont need swf to win, i dont need auras to win, i dont need perks to win, i dont need comms to win. you dont seem particularly happy that other people are doing fine to be honest. very anti tunneling, anti stealth, anti soloq in general by suggesting people should win or lose as a team knowing full well soloq players can often get awful team mates so these people with bad team mates end up losing because the rest of the team is bad. You even said about people giving up often in matches…. these people will give up over anything, i have seen it with maps they dont like. These people that give up should impact the whole team because they dont like the map? you dont see it as much in swf because atleast some of the team are on the same page but it is seen much more in solo and when playing killer, you must have seen players give up when you as killer have done nothing to prompt it. you cant seriously think that giving people aura read and making it a team win/loss will suddenly make people play like a team when they genuinely dont care if they win or loss. change the win con and you will not find improvement. if i have a challenge to do totems or do gens and im solo player, im using that aura read to bring the killer to the injured survivor on a gen so i can do my challenge. it will not make me any more of a team player by changing the win con. the team might lose, but i wouldnt care because MY goal is still not the same as the teams goal. Think of me in your SWF team on comms….my playstyle, using info gained from you so i can throw you all under the bus last min so i can get my hatch challenge. obviously i would be kicked out of that SWF team instantly….that would be what happens in soloq, match after match.
This is why dbd will never have a team win/loss condition. To change it would mean changing the entire game, perks, challenges, hatch, Everything. You can wish for it and hope for it but i can say right now it will never happen.
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any good killer would abandon chase and go for someone else, or that killer could get a down pretty quick. if your a pro looper yes that can work IF your team mates are doing gens. if they are not doing gens then your looping will amount to nothing. A common issue in soloq is peoples refusal to touch gens because they are boring. they want chases, they want interaction. but when they go down in 10 seconds and they find out they cant out loop the killer then its "dont tunnel me".
i have looped the killer for ages, enough for multiple gens to be done….were they done? nope, there are people hovering around with a flashlight waiting for a save or spinning in circles on the edge of the map or doing totems, maybe doing gens but failing every single skill check somehow. That is why stealth is my first and foremost tactic, dont get chased, do gens and only loop if i have to because i often cant rely on my team to do gens. i cant even rely on them to loop very well which is why i bring hatch offerings a lot. i cover my bases and rely on the team less than most. Thats how i survive and escape and avoid being tunneled. all 3 of these things are something many survivors complain about. i found my own way to play that works for me.
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i know you have played solo, but now you dont
I played some solo to get that last cosmetics during Haunted by Daylight. I played some last season to wrap up my iri for the month. I'm playing some now to get used to my new Steamdeck. Incidentally, that's a new-to-me device with different controls and a small screen and I'm on my regular MMR getting p100 killers, yet I'm still managing a 50% ER. So it's going okay.
because you have said you dont want awful team mates.
So, again, I don't play in just 4mans. I get plenty of randoms, many are awful. I am not outside of this world.
you must know how rough soloq can be to actively avoid it and prefer swf.
Do I not play soloq and not understand it or do I know how it is because I've played it? Choose.
your even against comms in solo because you think people will be toxic for the sake of being toxic. Yet you think aura read would help and no help people to be toxic?
I'd rather someone drag the killler to me in the world of the game than scream slurs into my actual ears, yes.
It makes sense so avoid the killer if you cant loop that well
You just said people should take opportunities to improve at looping. If all you do is stand behind a rock the second the TR starts you are never getting better at anything. I myself don't loop well, but if three people are on death hook it's time for me to take a hook. If someone is being tunneled I will stand in front of the killer and give them a free down if I have to to try to deter them. Hook states are a resource.
i think that says a lot to be honest, thats what come across as bitter.
Miss me with the innocent act. I've seen what you have to say. You call teammates tools, want the chat wheel to trick them into going towards the killer, and just recently said you pretend to be helpful so you can surprise people with a betrayal. You will never advocate for anything that doesn't benefit you. You just now implied what you would do with free aura. And I'm pretty sure what you actually do is twice as bad as you say because you of all people know there's rules in this forum and this game.
you dont seem particularly happy that other people are doing fine to be honest.
I know its realllllly hard for you to grasp this, but some people don't care how may notches on the escape side of the board you have. As far as I'm concerned, when I get hatch or I go through the gate alone, thats a loss. So, to me, you're probably loosing most of your matches. Most people play games of zero importance for the experience, not the stats. If anything, I just feel really bad for your teammates.
the team might lose, but i wouldnt care because MY goal is still not the same as the teams goal.
The game would change, yes. Quests would change, playstyles would change. Many soloq players are deeply discontent. The fact that the happy ones are the selfish and snake-like is pretty telling about the state of the experience.
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if your doing ok thats great, we all have our own ways of playing that works.
it doesnt matter that your not in a 4man swf. even 2man swf means half the team is swf which means there is less chance of getting teamed with a bad solo player. it also means 3 man swf that just go into matches to grief like sabo squads are out of the question because your in a 2 man swf.
You claim to play solo and claim to do ok and also claim to know how bad it is but everything you say says the opposite. you say you prefer SWF, you say you avoid solo, you dont want solo to have comms, you want team win/loss condition, you think aura read wouldnt help people be toxic. literally everything you say is pro SWF and bad for solo so i think my confusion on where you are coming is understandable. Even when the option to tuen comms off so you dont have slurs in your ear, you still find ways to deny soloq something but support the use in SWF.
i probably do much worse in your eyes yes lol i learnt from other soloq players. However, i advocate for game mechanics that cant be abused by either side. Have you noticed all suggestions i debunk are things i openly say how i can use it in a way you disagree with? its to make sure these things dont go through so people like me cant do what i would do. when you suggest something that i cant find a loop hole for then your on the right track. i have already said how i would use aura read in a way you disagree with, you think its a good idea adding that knowing how it can and would be used by me?
if standing behind a rock doesnt help me improve then i wouldnt be able to loop the killer AND use stealth. its not one or the other people can do both which is what makes a good survivor not just a one trick pony that can only stealth or only loop and have no back up for when that playstyle fails.
like i said, you can consider what you want a win or loss….consider it a team win condition. nothing wrong with that, but we all know thats not really true and its no different than saying if i last 20sec in a chase i consider it a win. so you can consider most of my matches a loss, doesnt mean they are losses and the amount of people that want the stats tracker to show accurate results says they do care about escape rates, wins and stats not just what they consider a win or loss.
Like i said, these changes will never go through….team win con for reasons i have already said…a complete overhaul of the game from top to bottom. We all know bhvr will not be doing that based on the patchwork bandaids they keep putting out there. They would sooner make a dbd2 than change the entire game. And aura read would be used by people like me in ways you dont like, so add them, dont add them im good either way, would you be good knowing im using it in a bad way especially if im in your match? not likely
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However, i advocate for game mechanics that cant be abused by either side.
Like what? Comms? Yeah you sure can't lie to people then mute them as you betray them. 100% not abusable.
i have already said how i would use aura read in a way you disagree with, you think its a good idea adding that knowing how it can and would be used by me?
Most people aren't like you. This is the same as people complaining about players abusing post unhook protections. The vast majority won't, but because a few will, we can't have anything. This is how nothing gets done. And people wouldn't abuse Bond if the wincon was different. If hook states are essentially a shared resource, you'd only be hurting yourself. It's also not as though scummy people can't run Bond already.
But please tell me how you'd abuse basekit Kindred. If anything, it would put you on blast every time someone gets hooked and you're standing still behind that rock.
but we all know thats not really true
If the killer won it stands to reason your TEAM lost. If they hadn't made that God forsaken stat page, we would have no uniform measurement unit. And as you you know, the stats are wrong if you use abandon, which you said you do, so cool fake stats, I guess.
the amount of people that want the stats tracker to show accurate results says they do care about escape rates, wins and stats not just what they consider a win or loss.
I've been one of the loudest people in regards to the stat page being fixed to get rid of these vanity awards for abandoning. It's not that I care about the numbers, it's that they're the only official measurements we have and they're completely wrong for survivor. If I had it my way, the page would be removed. Stats are stupid. They tell you nothing about what happened in a match or how the match felt, but they're currently all we have to reference.
would you be good knowing im using it in a bad way especially if im in your match?
Goes both ways. Bond is great for rat hunting. And if both of us have it, I'd see you coming too, wouldn't I? First time I see someone with no hooks running right for me with the killer on their heels I immediately know what I'm dealing with. See how the matches go for you when your betrayals become obvious from the get-go.
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people cant hear me now so how would muting me allow me to abuse comms even they could set it as if a player mutes it then then cant communicate or hear other people. makes no sense, your just giving odd what ifs that defy logic and reasoning. even lying to people means its up to the people to believe me or not same as chat wheel. aura read i cant lie but it will show me where people are so if need them out so i can get hatch it will help me in that way.
Most people are not like me? tell that to the people that abused the anti slug mechanic time and time again resulting in it being scrapped or the people abusing infinite loops years ago which resulted in them being stopped or the amount of killers that would literally face camp and grab any survivor that went for the unhook which they have no removed. give people an opportunity and they will use it in ways you least expect. It always puzzles me that you have this pessimistic view that people are toxic and use comms to shout slurs so much that your against comms for solo but you also seem to have this conflicting thing that most people are honourable players that wouldnt abuse certain things even when they can. its very conflicting points of view. are people scummy or not? if not then whats the big deal with comms? if they are then you should be thanking me for pointing out the potential flaws in suggestions mentioned and how i would be able to use them much to your dislike.
if win con was changed it wouldnt change the fact that people have personal challenges. if win con changes and no one has personal challenges, no hatch (why have hatch where 1 person can escape if its a team win/loss)…then yes things might be different but you creating a whole dofferent game. Like if i said what if survivors had weapons to attack the killers and defend themselves? its a big change but its not what dbd is no matter how much you want it to be ad the more you suggest dramatic changes the effect not just a little part but the whole game then you are basically saying you want to play a different game to dbd.
how i would use basekit kindred? i would stay on gens like a good boy, people can see im not hiding behind a rock im contributing to the team. if people decide to throw me under the bus, the one person doing gens then it would be a bad move for them because im often the only one doing gens. without me gens often dont get done. or i can make it look like im going for save but cant quite make it…. stealth is being sneaking, unseen, im good at deception, i can make it seem like im doing one thing but im actually doing something else. like heading to the gen but im actually not looking for a gen im looking for a totem for my challenge. eve when in chase i find the best way is to lose line of sight, use misdirection to confuse the killer so they lose me. when i say im a stealth player i mean im a stealth player, even when the killer has an aura read on me i can manage. trick is to not raise suspicion, not to look like a rat in the corner, do the objective….gens, totems, stuns, whatever that may be. once again you seem to jump to the hide behind a rock thing which is not stealth…..or i can just go afk and killers like you will leave me alone for a while lol who needs stealth when i play dead?
all of this is a non issue because its all a fantasy, the win con wont change, stealth will not be removed from the game any more than tunneling will. nerfed maybe but not removed and as long as its not removed i will find a way to maintain my stealth play. IF the game changes that drastically then might as well give survivors weapons or maybe make it 4 v 4 game….survivors v killers.
Personally i rather think about how the game is and adapt to that. any changes that happen, im sure i will adapt as i always have. its more constructive then reinventing the game from the ground up to form a perfect game in the hope to snuff out playstyles you dont agree with because it just simply wont happen. But you are free to dream.
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You have 4-5 hooks with 5 gens because the game is terribly balanced in favor of killer.
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Of course they will abandon after a while, but its still better than them chasing someone else immediately. Stealthing would only buy more time if an entire swf does it.
It also means i have more time for gens. I can run to the best gen and do it out in the open. I do not need to waste time with stealth bc the killer doesnt want to chase me anymore. Like is said i use stealth only in special situations.
And yes, people sometimes do no gens. But they also wouldnt do it while someone goes down in 10 seconds. And if they are going down that fast i cant do all gens in time. If im spawning alone on a gen, im doing it. There are good loopers out there and then its a great start. But sadly the risk of a 30-second-down, no gens finished and gen-regression kicking in is too high.
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