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Does Stake Out need a tweak?

ChaosWam
ChaosWam Member Posts: 2,158

Before I get downvoted, this isn't a call for a nerf, more of a question than anything.

So I've been thinking about Stake Out a lot, as someone who runs it a lot with Hyperfocus. When Fast Track changed, it made me think more that Stake Out really just makes good perks better or broken when it comes to gen skillchecks. It also makes Fogwise and Corrective Action more consistent as well, which is a lesser extent of my point.

Speaking of Corrective Action, remember when it changed to turn missed skillchecks into great skillchecks, and how fast it was changed because of it's synergy with Hyperfocus? I do. That's more of an issue than Stake Out is, but with how BHVR keeps trying to make perks that give a huge bonus for great skillchecks, Stake Out is becoming a bit of a powerful synergy for them, and it makes me wonder if it could be a bigger problem down the line.

When the new Boon: Steadfast was shown and how lopsided it is, I realized that yeah, if it were stronger we'd have an issue if Stake Out synergizes with it too. As of the current preview of Steadfast, if it were paired with Stake Out it wouldn't be a massive problem. But if it were stronger? Who knows. It could be bad.


That said, I still really like Stake Out, but I'd like to see it slightly tweaked to not activate GSC effects so we can have these other perks be strong on their own, and make it have more of a power of it's own. Problem is, I can't really think of anything to suggest because the synergy is really fun on perks like Fogwise and Corrective Action when they do work. And the only other suggestion I can think of is it just boosts repair/heal % given per stack used so it can be used for both gen repair and healing.

Comments

  • SoGo
    SoGo Member Posts: 4,603

    The problem is, what can you change?

    Maybe if it got the Distortion treatment? So you would only get stacks in chase? Or, alternatively, be very close to the killer (8 m) instead of just in the TR

  • ChaosWam
    ChaosWam Member Posts: 2,158

    I pointed out that it's fun with Fogwise and Corrective Action though? It wasn't an argument, it's just a viewpoint of someone who loves Stake Out.

    And personally, I think Hyperfocus is just one issue and if BHVR keeps releasing more great skillcheck perks, it could snowball into an issue.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 10,222

    I think the problem is that Stake Out is just a bad perk by itself. If you remove the syngery it has with other perks you just create a perk no one would ever consider.

  • GeneralV
    GeneralV Member Posts: 12,714

    I think Stake Out is alright, to be honest. Its only real value is its synergy with Hyperfocus, but even that isn't problematic or strong enough to warrant changes.

  • ChaosWam
    ChaosWam Member Posts: 2,158

    That's the biggest problem I have with it too. Sometimes I think it's TOO good with synergy that it could kneecap future perk combinations that also require GSC's.

    But as you said, it's bad by itself and there's no real change that can be made to make it good by itself.

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 5,922

    I think it could use an adjustment I just don't know what or how but I do feel like there are better ways to go about it.

  • Elan
    Elan Member Posts: 1,792

    Could just be that stake out would still convert good into great, but those great would have - 50 % progress towards great skillcheck. With 6 stacks of hyperfocus you get 2.7 % bonus, with stake out it's 3.7 %. So it would result in you getting only 1.72 % bonus but will still correct the skillchek to preserve stacks.