Bad survivors are the ones who can mess up a match
It's very frustrating to play with people who thinks are good only for dropping pallets but the reality is that almost all survivors are a ######### playing this game. I mean, you only have to do gens, loop, distracting the killer a while, not waste so much pallets and being good at chases. But always I find this kind of teammates who:
- Doesn't do gens
- Doesn't look for Ruin and try to do gens but they can't
- Do unsafe unhooks or farm other survivors
- Uses Urban Evasion
- Uses Self-Care
- Sandbags you when he's being chased (running to the gen that you are repairing; that ######### happens to me almost all matches)
- Wastes pallets (they drop the shack pallet at first chance lul)
- Wastes time Self-caring himself or others
- Gets caught in 5 s
- Dc's if he gets caught (This always happens in my matches)
- Blames killer for his lack of skill (some teammates that I had called killers "tryhards" or "campers, tunnelers" when they dc only for failing DS or got farmed when killers doesn't did anything bad, just playing his role)
- Don't use Adrenaline (That's a really big mistake imo; Adrenaline saved my ass a lot of times and helped me to escape. I noted that begginers and bad survivors doesn't really use this perk)
Seriously people. If you gonna do such kind of things, then don't play DBD. You ruin all matches with these mistakes.
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I would also add that they don't save you from the hook to the list. Oh and they also doing nothing while you are being chased or hooked.
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YES, for love the of god stop running urban and self care.
It's so freaking annoying being hooked and seeing my potato teammates using these two perks. Only to reach 2nd phase and get farmed.3 -
The best are those with flashlights and decisive who run around clicking their flashlight trying to get the killers attention but get ignored, they don't do gens, don't contribute to the team in anyway but post game they say how everyone else sucked.5
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Or those bodyblocking hook when killer got you near one. They think everyone is using decisive and what do they accomplish? They just provoke the killer to camp and get hit so they can self care forever at the edge of map.3
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@Ihatelife said:
I would also add that they don't save you from the hook to the list. Oh and they also doing nothing while you are being chased or hooked.That too. Or they just crouch and are too afraid to move
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@JanTheMan said:
YES, for love the of god stop running urban and self care.It's so freaking annoying being hooked and seeing my potato teammates using these two perks. Only to reach 2nd phase and get farmed.
Devs should put some penalty for that. Urban immersion teammates are the most useless and cowards teammates
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Not using a perk doesn't make you a bad player. Neither does healing others. Injured state leaves blood and you make more noise, plus get downed in one hit. Maybe against NOED don't bother yet, but...
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@The_Crusader said:
The best are those with flashlights and decisive who run around clicking their flashlight trying to get the killers attention but get ignored, they don't do gens, don't contribute to the team in anyway but post game they say how everyone else sucked.Or if the killer catch them and got killed, they taunt the killer post game or if they fail DS, they DC.
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@Eveline said:
Or those bodyblocking hook when killer got you near one. They think everyone is using decisive and what do they accomplish? They just provoke the killer to camp and get hit so they can self care forever at the edge of map.That happened to me a lot of times too. Or they try to bodyblock but they fail and then run like chickens to self-caring, exploting gens and then blaiming you if the killer got the 4K
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I'd be fine with it if they just stayed in brown and yellow rank. BUT these players are literally in red rank, duh fuqc how?AdánAR said:@JanTheMan said:
YES, for love the of god stop running urban and self care.It's so freaking annoying being hooked and seeing my potato teammates using these two perks. Only to reach 2nd phase and get farmed.
Devs should put some penalty for that. Urban immersion teammates are the most useless and cowards teammates
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Perks don't make someone bad at the game but the way they use them. You can get to red ranks with no perks at all.
Currently I am using SC and UE, but I get a job done and help with the objectives. Sometimes as a solo player I mostly do everything myself if the team is toxic.2 -
@Coriander said:
Not using a perk doesn't make you a bad player. Neither does healing others. Injured state leaves blood and you make more noise, plus get downed in one hit. Maybe against NOED don't bother yet, but...Well in my experience the urban immersion players are the most useless and "too-afraid-to-do-something" players. And the ones with self care, when they always get hit, they run to the corner of the map and heal themselves, and if the killer hits them again they do the same thing over and over and they don't do gens and don't save people. Also they wastes pallets. If you don't wanna make noise while injured, you can use Iron Will
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@JanTheMan said:
AdánAR said:@JanTheMan said:
YES, for love the of god stop running urban and self care.
It's so freaking annoying being hooked and seeing my potato teammates using these two perks. Only to reach 2nd phase and get farmed.
Devs should put some penalty for that. Urban immersion teammates are the most useless and cowards teammates
I'd be fine with it if they just stayed in brown and yellow rank. BUT these players are literally in red rank, duh fuqc how?
Ikr i don't know how they reach that ranks being too bad
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That's generalising. I don't behave like that and I use those perks atm.1
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@Eveline said:
That's generalising. I don't behave like that and I use those perks atm.I'm pretty sure you are but you have that blind point that these kind of teammates has. I don't wanna offend you but Urban Evasion and Self-Care are, imo, perks for begginers on DBD. You don't really need them if you're good
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Yeah, but the reputation of players who run said perks Are known to be selfish, immersed, and bad at chase.Eveline said:Perks don't make someone bad at the game but the way they use them. You can get to red ranks with no perks at all.
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You can play perkless and be rank 1 if you are good. I don't consider myself a beginner since I can at least accomplish that.
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Whoever is prone to generalisation can't be that good at the game tbh. Mixing perks is fun I always change builds to try new things and have fun. Tru3ta1ent use SC is he a beginner? Please don't be silly.JanTheMan said:
Yeah, but the reputation of players who run said perks Are known to be selfish, immersed, and bad at chase.Eveline said:Perks don't make someone bad at the game but the way they use them. You can get to red ranks with no perks at all.
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Ok, but Tru3 doesn't run into the corner of the map to Self Care...Eveline said:
Whoever is prone to generalisation can't be that good at the game tbh. Mixing perks is fun I always change builds to try new things and have fun. Tru3ta1ent use SC is he a beginner? Please don't be silly.JanTheMan said:
Yeah, but the reputation of players who run said perks Are known to be selfish, immersed, and bad at chase.Eveline said:Perks don't make someone bad at the game but the way they use them. You can get to red ranks with no perks at all.
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@Eveline said:
You can play perkless and be rank 1 if you are good. I don't consider myself a beginner since I can at least accomplish that.Let me remind you something... Rank means nothing. If you are a rank 1 survivor doesnt' mean you're good, it means that you play the game a lot; that's a thing that a lot of DBD players still can't understand at this stage. The best survivors that i've ever seen were on green and purple ones (and some yellow ones) some streamers are good too and they're not in red ranks for the same reason (Jendenise, Kittychipz, Geistra). In those ranks there are a lot of trash survivors who thinks they're good but can't stand a chase for more than 10 s and all that stuff that I said in my first comment and also tryhard killers but that's another story. If you think you're good just for that maybe you need to re-evaluate your skills as survivor main
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And who can tell who is good, you?0
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Generalisation and smart don't fit together.3
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@Eveline said:
Generalisation and smart don't fit together.I wasn't but whatever. Thinking you're good for being a Red Rank when you can't do a pallet save, juke a killer or stand a chase or DC'ing for failling Ds, use urban immersion, don't cleanse Ruin and farm survivors doesn't fit together either. Say something smart, stop taunting, think more please, it's free
You aren't good for that, realize it
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It all comes down to a really bad designed ranking system which is allowing absolutly trash survivors to rank up. Either solo by the wheelchair called blackpip (safety pip) or just getting boosted with the wheelchair called swf. As long as the devs don't figure out how to fix that the solo experience will remain a painful and frustrating experience, nothing we can really change tbh0
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Most of the time you see good players at low ranks is because they derank to bully unexperienced killers. If they wouldn't derank, they would be obviously in red ranksAdánAR said:@Eveline said:
You can play perkless and be rank 1 if you are good. I don't consider myself a beginner since I can at least accomplish that.Let me remind you something... Rank means nothing. If you are a rank 1 survivor doesnt' mean you're good, it means that you play the game a lot; that's a thing that a lot of DBD players still can't understand at this stage. The best survivors that i've ever seen were on green and purple ones (and some yellow ones) some streamers are good too and they're not in red ranks for the same reason (Jendenise, Kittychipz, Geistra). In those ranks there are a lot of trash survivors who thinks they're good but can't stand a chase for more than 10 s and all that stuff that I said in my first comment and also tryhard killers but that's another story. If you think you're good just for that maybe you need to re-evaluate your skills as survivor main
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I will always use urban evasion. The best way to get jobs done is not getting tracked in the first place. Also at max level urban movement is faster than walking by a bit which is great. You urban around do gens, you urban to the lockers to dodge BBQ, and when the coast is clear you burn SB to get someone off the hook and urban away like a ghost in the night. Urban isn't the bad guy here. It is just people who fail to do anything worthwhile.
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@HavelmomDaS1 said:
It all comes down to a really bad designed ranking system which is allowing absolutly trash survivors to rank up. Either solo by the wheelchair called blackpip (safety pip) or just getting boosted with the wheelchair called swf. As long as the devs don't figure out how to fix that the solo experience will remain a painful and frustrating experience, nothing we can really change tbhTrue, they need to do something with the ranking system. It's incredibly annoying having such kind of ppl in my teams, thinking they're good for hitting DS or just stunning with a pallet. I'm play solo and sometimes I just go killer (And I go against that kind of survivors) and I have so much fun killing them than when I go solo as survivor.
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Wow lots of assumptions. Doesn't surprise me tho. You think you know all players without even knowing them. And you are the one taunting not me. You started with assuming I'm not that good since I use certain perks so I had to defend myself. And now you just continue with it.AdánAR said:@Eveline said:
Generalisation and smart don't fit together.I wasn't but whatever. Thinking you're good for being a Red Rank when you can't do a pallet save, juke a killer or stand a chase or DC'ing for failling Ds, use urban immersion, don't cleanse Ruin and farm survivors doesn't fit together either. Say something smart, stop taunting, think more please, it's free
You aren't good for that, realize it
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@Eveline said:
AdánAR said:@Eveline said:
Generalisation and smart don't fit together.
I wasn't but whatever. Thinking you're good for being a Red Rank when you can't do a pallet save, juke a killer or stand a chase or DC'ing for failling Ds, use urban immersion, don't cleanse Ruin and farm survivors doesn't fit together either. Say something smart, stop taunting, think more please, it's free
You aren't good for that, realize it
Wow lots of assumptions. Doesn't surprise me tho. You think you know all players without even knowing them. And you are the one taunting not me. You started with assuming I'm not that good since I use certain perks so I had to defend myself. And now you just continue with it.
I don't want to waste more time arguing with someone like that. Bye.
I never offend you, I just made a comment about the average survivor players on DBD. You're the one who took it personal and start taunting with silly comments and I had to defend myself too. Whatever Bye, idc
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@ReikoMori said:
I will always use urban evasion. The best way to get jobs done is not getting tracked in the first place. Also at max level urban movement is faster than walking by a bit which is great. You urban around do gens, you urban to the lockers to dodge BBQ, and when the coast is clear you burn SB to get someone off the hook and urban away like a ghost in the night. Urban isn't the bad guy here. It is just people who fail to do anything worthwhile.Well i guess you're the exception, but almost all survivors plays in the way that I said before. I wish i had teammates like you, not potatoes.
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@HavelmomDaS1 said:
AdánAR said:@Eveline said:
You can play perkless and be rank 1 if you are good. I don't consider myself a beginner since I can at least accomplish that.
Let me remind you something... Rank means nothing. If you are a rank 1 survivor doesnt' mean you're good, it means that you play the game a lot; that's a thing that a lot of DBD players still can't understand at this stage. The best survivors that i've ever seen were on green and purple ones (and some yellow ones) some streamers are good too and they're not in red ranks for the same reason (Jendenise, Kittychipz, Geistra). In those ranks there are a lot of trash survivors who thinks they're good but can't stand a chase for more than 10 s and all that stuff that I said in my first comment and also tryhard killers but that's another story. If you think you're good just for that maybe you need to re-evaluate your skills as survivor main
Most of the time you see good players at low ranks is because they derank to bully unexperienced killers. If they wouldn't derank, they would be obviously in red ranks
I know but, like I said that's another story. Personally I don't enjoy being a red rank survivor (I dc'ed some matches, i don't wanna rank up so quickly this time). As killer it's fun because you found the worst survivors there (with some exceptions: some SWF's)
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But how are you going to learn how to loop a killer and waste his time if you never train that? See, I have no issue if survivors don't want to be detected, but the issue I have is that most of the time those survivors are going down within 20 seconds which gives the killer such a huge momentum.ReikoMori said:I will always use urban evasion. The best way to get jobs done is not getting tracked in the first place. Also at max level urban movement is faster than walking by a bit which is great. You urban around do gens, you urban to the lockers to dodge BBQ, and when the coast is clear you burn SB to get someone off the hook and urban away like a ghost in the night. Urban isn't the bad guy here. It is just people who fail to do anything worthwhile.
You can't be a ghost the whole match, in some situations u HAVE to bait the killer chasing you because everyone is one hook away to die but you are not, or to tank a hit for mate etc.
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Yeah I see where you coming from, red ranks can be exhaustingAdánAR said:@HavelmomDaS1 said:
AdánAR said:@Eveline said:
You can play perkless and be rank 1 if you are good. I don't consider myself a beginner since I can at least accomplish that.
Let me remind you something... Rank means nothing. If you are a rank 1 survivor doesnt' mean you're good, it means that you play the game a lot; that's a thing that a lot of DBD players still can't understand at this stage. The best survivors that i've ever seen were on green and purple ones (and some yellow ones) some streamers are good too and they're not in red ranks for the same reason (Jendenise, Kittychipz, Geistra). In those ranks there are a lot of trash survivors who thinks they're good but can't stand a chase for more than 10 s and all that stuff that I said in my first comment and also tryhard killers but that's another story. If you think you're good just for that maybe you need to re-evaluate your skills as survivor main
Most of the time you see good players at low ranks is because they derank to bully unexperienced killers. If they wouldn't derank, they would be obviously in red ranks
I know but, like I said that's another story. Personally I don't enjoy being a red rank survivor (I dc'ed some matches, i don't wanna rank up so quickly this time). As killer it's fun because you found the worst survivors there (with some exceptions: some SWF's)
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I stopped using UE for a while... as soon as I did, I kept having Hag match after Hag match, and they always went badly. So, I started using UE again. Back to almost no Hag matches, but at least when there is one I'm prepared. And it's still useful for quickly hiding behind stuff when the killer comes over to the gen.
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@HavelmomDaS1 said:
ReikoMori said:I will always use urban evasion. The best way to get jobs done is not getting tracked in the first place. Also at max level urban movement is faster than walking by a bit which is great. You urban around do gens, you urban to the lockers to dodge BBQ, and when the coast is clear you burn SB to get someone off the hook and urban away like a ghost in the night. Urban isn't the bad guy here. It is just people who fail to do anything worthwhile.
But how are you going to learn how to loop a killer and waste his time if you never train that? See, I have no issue if survivors don't want to be detected, but the issue I have is that most of the time those survivors are going down within 20 seconds which gives the killer such a huge momentum.
You can't be a ghost the whole match, in some situations u HAVE to bait the killer chasing you because everyone is one hook away to die but you are not, or to tank a hit for mate etc.
Nothing personal tho, Idk how good you are. But my experience is that urban survivors are usually going down to quick once they got spotted by the killerExactly, they don't have that experience and skill in chases. You describe the perfect problem with urban survivors. Also, it's so freaking boring to play this game as a stealthy player: the fun in this game is being chased, seing the killer behing you and start running, see if you can't stand enough to the other ones do gens and escape, getting saved by adrenaline if you got hitted, making killers fail a hit juking... That's the fun imo in DBD as surv
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@HavelmomDaS1 said:
AdánAR said:@HavelmomDaS1 said:
AdánAR said:
@Eveline said: You can play perkless and be rank 1 if you are good. I don't consider myself a beginner since I can at least accomplish that. Let me remind you something... Rank means nothing. If you are a rank 1 survivor doesnt' mean you're good, it means that you play the game a lot; that's a thing that a lot of DBD players still can't understand at this stage. The best survivors that i've ever seen were on green and purple ones (and some yellow ones) some streamers are good too and they're not in red ranks for the same reason (Jendenise, Kittychipz, Geistra). In those ranks there are a lot of trash survivors who thinks they're good but can't stand a chase for more than 10 s and all that stuff that I said in my first comment and also tryhard killers but that's another story. If you think you're good just for that maybe you need to re-evaluate your skills as survivor main
Most of the time you see good players at low ranks is because they derank to bully unexperienced killers. If they wouldn't derank, they would be obviously in red ranks
I know but, like I said that's another story. Personally I don't enjoy being a red rank survivor (I dc'ed some matches, i don't wanna rank up so quickly this time). As killer it's fun because you found the worst survivors there (with some exceptions: some SWF's)
Yeah I see where you coming from, red ranks can be exhausting
I admit that some days I just dc'ed all matches and stop playing for 2 or 3 days as survivor last season. It's exhausting yep, doesn't worth it being in that place
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Yes they derank to 15 to bully baby killers like it's hard to loop someone like that and make their life miserable. Running around a pallet 20 minutes and juking inexperienced killers is very immature. I done it a few times because I wanted to rank up my friends account. Never again.
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@Eveline said:
Yes they derank to 15 to bully baby killers like it's hard to loop someone like that and make their life miserable. Running around a pallet 20 minutes and juking inexperienced killers is very immature. I done it a few times because I wanted to rank up my friends account. Never again.They can't loop that much at red ranks that's why they derank not because they are good but they suck at chases.
Sure... I saw that streamers too in red ones. They bully killers too in that ranks, making them dc or running them too much to the point they facecamps them so... No point to say more. Also I've been facecamped for that reason too and for "thinking that i'm very good, stunning them"
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I mostly see the DS players being the worst, they rely too much on it to save their ass. I use urban but I always try to help out my team as much as possible. I'll try to rescue heal them and repair gens all while staying hidden from the killer. And when I get in the chase, I can hold my own for a while, I'm still no pro but I can still run a killer around for a bit2
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
I mostly see the DS players being the worst, they rely too much on it to save their ass. I use urban but I always try to help out my team as much as possible. I'll try to rescue heal them and repair gens all while staying hidden from the killer. And when I get in the chase, I can hold my own for a while, I'm still no pro but I can still run a killer around for a bitDS users usually when i go killer are the easiest to get caught. I let them to use DS then i caught them 1 s after that. At least you try, my teammates with urban usually don't do much; just farming and wasting pallets, crouching behind a rock or exploting gens.
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And that is fun for you, making killers dc?AdánAR said:@Eveline said:
Yes they derank to 15 to bully baby killers like it's hard to loop someone like that and make their life miserable. Running around a pallet 20 minutes and juking inexperienced killers is very immature. I done it a few times because I wanted to rank up my friends account. Never again.They can't loop that much at red ranks that's why they derank not because they are good but they suck at chases.
Sure... I saw that streamers too in red ones. They bully killers too in that ranks, making them dc or running them too much to the point they facecamps them so... No point to say more. Also I've been facecamped for that reason too and for "thinking that i'm very good, stunning them"
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@Eveline said:
AdánAR said:@Eveline said:
Yes they derank to 15 to bully baby killers like it's hard to loop someone like that and make their life miserable. Running around a pallet 20 minutes and juking inexperienced killers is very immature. I done it a few times because I wanted to rank up my friends account. Never again.
They can't loop that much at red ranks that's why they derank not because they are good but they suck at chases.
Sure... I saw that streamers too in red ones. They bully killers too in that ranks, making them dc or running them too much to the point they facecamps them so... No point to say more. Also I've been facecamped for that reason too and for "thinking that i'm very good, stunning them"
And that is fun for you, making killers dc?
"the fun in this game is being chased, seing the killer behing you and start running, see if you can't stand enough to the other ones do gens and escape, getting saved by adrenaline if you got hitted, making killers fail a hit juking... That's the fun imo in DBD as surv"
I said it in a comment before yours
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Anyway for me I love to change builds and perks like I said. Even playstyle. That is fun for me and I don't think it's fair to assume how good is someone looking at their perks. Especially if they change it all the time. And I'm sorry if I was rude.2
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@Eveline said:
Anyway for me I love to change builds and perks like I said. Even playstyle. That is fun for me and I don't think it's fair to assume how good is someone looking at their perks. Especially if they change it all the time. And I'm sorry if I was rude.I'm sorry too, I was rude, sometimes i'm just too hyped and I forgot it's just a game. You seem a nice girl and i like your name, it's cute.
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Add not letting you heal them when you have We'll Make It to that list and remove using Self Care and Urban.
I really hate when Survivors run after I save them with We'll Make It. I always run the perk, so this is something that really annoys me. Do you not want to be healed in 8 seconds? The game even tells you when someone has We'll Make It, so you can't say that you didn't know. I understand running away from the hook so the Killer can't immediately hook you again if they come back before the heal is finished, but not running for miles and refusing to let me heal you. If they show no signs of stopping then I just let them be. If the Killer downs them, then too bad. You should've accepted my help.
Not all Survivors are bad when running SC. The only "bad" ones are Survivors who will not stop healing if you run up to them and the Survivors that immediately run to a corner, heal, and then just keep being immersed. Same thing with Urban. The only bad Survivors who have UE are the ones who stay hidden forever and don't even try to help. I always run SC and UE but I will try my best to assist the other Survivors. Being immersed for the entire game and doing nothing would get really boring.
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I run Ue and Sc. But its also because i know i am bad at looping. When you know this, not very smart to run out in the open en get caught fast. only puts the other survivors off the gens to come and rescue me.
The way to not get in a situation where you need to loop is by making sure you dont get caught in the first place. But that doesnt mean i dont do gens or dont try to save. I even try to save when exit gates are open, the killer is camping, and the other survivors who dont run sc and Ue ( good survivors in your guys opinion) have already left leaving the person on the hook.So yeah, i run those perks because i know i am bad at looping. Doesnt make me bad at the game at all, when i am good at the other things. I help my team more by not get caught. Its just as simple as that.
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@AdánAR said:
- Gets caught in 5 s
If you gonna do such kind of things, then don't play DBD.
That's actually a sad thing to say.
They suck, so they should quit.
Damn, harsh.Oh wow, i didn't even read beyond it cause i wanted to say this comment, but now that i did...
People MUST run Adrenaline with you?
This is such a shame...1 - Gets caught in 5 s
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You're absolutely horrible. You're telling people not to play the game because they're not as good as you? That's disgusting.
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