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Is crouch spamming in front of killers "toxic" ?

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  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    @Orion said:

    @Vietfox said:
    No it's not.
    1 - tbagging is far from being a bully thing. If you think it is i guess we have different opinions on what bullying really is.
    2 - since i don't find tbagging a serious issue my advice is to just ignore it, simple as that. In what way could tbagging affect someone? Seriously.

    Yes, it is.
    1 - You don't have to be a bully to use the same psychological tactics as bullies. That's just absurd. Of course, you know that, which is why you put words in my mouth.
    2 - This discussion is about whether or not teabagging is toxic. It has nothing to do with whether or not it's a serious issue. Not sure why you're responding to something nobody said.

    Bullying is an issue, tbagging is not. Since you compared both things this is why i mentioned it.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Vietfox said:
    Bullying is an issue, tbagging is not. Since you compared both things this is why i mentioned it.

    No, I compared your blaming the people who are affected by it with bullies blaming their victims for being affected by bullying. That's what I wrote, that's what I said, that's what I meant.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    @Orion said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Bullying is an issue, tbagging is not. Since you compared both things this is why i mentioned it.

    No, I compared your blaming the people who are affected by it with bullies blaming their victims for being affected by bullying. That's what I wrote, that's what I said, that's what I meant.

    Still a bad comparison. Blaming someone who has been really bullied is horrible and has nothing to do with what i was saying.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Vietfox said:
    Still a bad comparison. Blaming someone who has been really bullied is horrible and has nothing to do with what i was saying.

    You were saying that humans are to blame for having human reactions. Seem like the shoe fits just fine.

  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    @Orion said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Still a bad comparison. Blaming someone who has been really bullied is horrible and has nothing to do with what i was saying.

    You were saying that humans are to blame for having human reactions. Seem like the shoe fits just fine.

    Yeah, reactions for petty things like tbagging.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @Vietfox said:
    Yeah, reactions for petty things like tbagging.

    Human reactions, which are characteristic of humans (no, the name is not a coincidence). Humans also make up the bulk of the playerbase.

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154
    edited February 2019

    @Vietfox said:
    Yeah, reactions for petty things like tbagging.

    For a person that had been bullied in the past, the psychological impact of four teabagging Survivors might be of a lot more intense than you'd think.

    That's why I said it would be nice for people like you to try it with a bit more empathy for once instead of excusing everything with "doesn't affect me, therefore it musn't affect anyone else!".

    E: And it obviously does affect some people more than others, for whatever reason. Since we know that for a fact now, a logical reaction for "non-toxic" players would be to simply stop teabagging to not risk annoying a person that's more affected by it.

  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340
    If a person knows something is hurting someone why do it?
  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,897
    Teabagging in any game is just a scum move. The only purpose it has is to try to humiliate someone. People can try to defend it as tactics all the want. But as most of the teabagging takes place at the exit gate I think we all know the tactics argument is a lie.
  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270
    edogast said:

    because it should be

    It is. When a survivor does it to me, I commit suicide. Always.
  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Idk, i guess everyone's got their opinion on that, including the devs, hence why some actions are considered toxic to them and some not.
    All i know is that i don't mind if they do.
    Cause it gives me more time to catch up.

  • Khroalthemadbomber
    Khroalthemadbomber Member Posts: 1,073
    edited February 2019
    I honestly get more irritated by people that teabag me wrong.

    Allow me to explain.

    So generally when I'm chasing loopers I get the two little quick teabags at a pallet and then they run off, i chase them, i gut their insides after they smack me in the head a couple times with a pallet. We have a nice time.

    Lately I've been getting a LOT of these knew players that think their big ######### because they watch people like Noob3 or Monto or Puppers or AngryPug etc. and thusly think they are capable of pulling the same crap as them. Know how I can tell these people apart? THEY CAN'T FRIGGING TEABAG RIGHT! It's quick, concise taps on your left control button, but you people do it in slow motion! I swear there is like a full second delay on their god damned ground humps and it is annoying the CRAP out of me!

    So in short, if your intent is to emulate the people you watch the videos of, ACTUALLY DO IT RIGHT AND STOP CALLING ME FOR CHEATING BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO 360 RIGHT OR PROPERLY BAIT VAULTS!

    -insert excessive eye twitching and heavy mouth drool with deep angry breaths through gritted teeth facial meme here-
  • MegsAreEvil
    MegsAreEvil Member Posts: 819

    If theyre teabagging without any reason its toxic. If there are reasons like camping and tunneling, they just deserve this. then its called action and reaction.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871
    Meh?  I won't speak for anyone else, but teabagging means little to me.  If they teabag at the exit gates, either they get away and I move on or (rarely) that brief moment of teabagging will actually screw them over, in which case I hook them.
  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104

    @Master said:
    It serves no game purpose, it solely is for bm, so yes it is toxic 

    That's the standard by which true toxicity is uncovered. Blinds and stuns are just survivors genuinely trying to work together and survive. However, "Crouch Spamming" and T-Bagging serve no mechanical purpose, there is no genuine concern for survival or teamwork present. T-bagging is a taunt intended to upset killers. Therefore by the communities' loose definition of toxicity, T-bagging is toxic as it serves no justifiable purpose and is only meant to upset another player.

    (Enough of the "BuT It BaItS tHe KiLlEr InTo ChAsInG mE" the killer's primary objective is to kill and chase survivors. They will chase you on their own, trust me.)

  • LCGaster
    LCGaster Member Posts: 3,154

    I consider it toxic, especially after they drop a pallet. It's like they are saying "Haha! You f_cking idiot, you'll never catch me!".
    Those who do that are the more likely to be tunneled by me, I usually try to avoid tunneling unless I have no other choice