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Why survivors flashlight you

I used to never use flashlights since the aiming is trash on PS4 but i decided to dedicate a few matches to figuring out how to use them. After a few horrible fails, I figured out how to get killer blinds fairly consisently. When I ran out of flashlights, i went back to how i normally played the game.

Now i understand why survivors who bring flashlights bring them all the time. Its not even a survival thing though. A successful blind on buys a few seconds, and not much more than just running away when they break a pallet instead of blinding them. However, the satisfaction of healing yourself with a medkit or repairing a gen slightly faster is just simply insignificant compared to the grand sense of achievement one gets from staring their enemy straight in the eyes and shining a flashlight right in their ######### face. Its just psychology. 

Sincerely,
A survivor who doesnt want to be toxic but just wants to have a good time before getting impaled through the chest with a giant sacrificial hook.

Comments

  • JanTheMan
    JanTheMan Member Posts: 495
    Sure is fun staring into the entity's a-hole every time some teabagging-survivor flashlights me in the face.
  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340
    It's uncomfortable. I would never do it to others.
  • CJsDBD
    CJsDBD Member Posts: 85
    PiiFree said:

    Now imagine the opposite feeling from the Killers perspective ;-)

    Yeah im a noob killer and one time a survivor flashlight blinded me at every pallet or window or anything and i was so mad but honestly its one of the only ways a surivior can succeed at anything during a chase. Even if you get a few jukes in, unless youre really lucky or the killers a bad tracker, youre getting downed most times
  • CJsDBD
    CJsDBD Member Posts: 85
    JanTheMan said:
    Sure is fun staring into the entity's a-hole every time some teabagging-survivor flashlights me in the face.
    Which is worse, getting pallet stunned, or blinded?
  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340
    Blinded I think and DS.
  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154
    edited February 2019

    @CJsDBD said:
    Which is worse, getting pallet stunned, or blinded?

    Pallet stunned is the result of the Killers incompetence.

    Flashlight is just unavoidable during pallet break animation, that's what makes it more annoying to deal with.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @CJsDBD said:
    I used to never use flashlights since the aiming is trash on PS4 but i decided to dedicate a few matches to figuring out how to use them. After a few horrible fails, I figured out how to get killer blinds fairly consisently. When I ran out of flashlights, i went back to how i normally played the game.

    Now i understand why survivors who bring flashlights bring them all the time. Its not even a survival thing though. A successful blind on buys a few seconds, and not much more than just running away when they break a pallet instead of blinding them. However, the satisfaction of healing yourself with a medkit or repairing a gen slightly faster is just simply insignificant compared to the grand sense of achievement one gets from staring their enemy straight in the eyes and shining a flashlight right in their [BAD WORD] face. Its just psychology. 

    Sincerely,
    A survivor who doesnt want to be toxic but just wants to have a good time before getting impaled through the chest with a giant sacrificial hook.

    Just dont complain about receiving the corresponding killer reaction or about lobby dodges

  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,519
    PiiFree said:

    @CJsDBD said:
    Which is worse, getting pallet stunned, or blinded?

    Pallet stunned is the result of the Killers incompetence.

    okay I'm desperate for the LOL button
  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154

    @artist said:
    okay I'm desperate for the LOL button

    Not even kidding. Good killers know how to bait pallet drops without mindlessly running into them and without respecting them either.

  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,519
    PiiFree said:

    @artist said:
    okay I'm desperate for the LOL button

    Not even kidding. Good killers know how to bait pallet drops without mindlessly running into them and without respecting them either.

    OK
  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154

    @artist said:
    OK

    Maybe we can find a proper replacement of the "LOL" button with an "OK" button instead.

  • artist
    artist Member Posts: 1,519
    PiiFree said:

    @artist said:
    OK

    Maybe we can find a proper replacement of the "LOL" button with an "OK" button instead.

    hell yeah
  • OrionsFury4789
    OrionsFury4789 Member Posts: 637
    Master said:

    @CJsDBD said:
    I used to never use flashlights since the aiming is trash on PS4 but i decided to dedicate a few matches to figuring out how to use them. After a few horrible fails, I figured out how to get killer blinds fairly consisently. When I ran out of flashlights, i went back to how i normally played the game.

    Now i understand why survivors who bring flashlights bring them all the time. Its not even a survival thing though. A successful blind on buys a few seconds, and not much more than just running away when they break a pallet instead of blinding them. However, the satisfaction of healing yourself with a medkit or repairing a gen slightly faster is just simply insignificant compared to the grand sense of achievement one gets from staring their enemy straight in the eyes and shining a flashlight right in their [BAD WORD] face. Its just psychology. 

    Sincerely,
    A survivor who doesnt want to be toxic but just wants to have a good time before getting impaled through the chest with a giant sacrificial hook.

    Just dont complain about receiving the corresponding killer reaction or about lobby dodges

    That's ridiculous, "don't complain when I dodge intended items" is all your saying but yet you'll fully ######### stack your loadout against some noobs you deranked to go against 
  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270
    Yes. Many of them just want to have fun. It's not easy, not even very effective, except flashlight saves. Ain't nothing "toxic" about it.

    For all you killers out there mad about flashlights: let me remind you, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THEM ON ######### MEAT HOOKS OR KILL THEM IN THE MOST BRUTAL WAY POSSIBLE!!!! So... are you sure you want to complain about someone pointing a flashlight at your face?
  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167
    Its just easy points at a pallet and survivors know there is little repercussion for it unless they enter a dead zone.
  • LCGaster
    LCGaster Member Posts: 3,154

    When they try to blind me is only because I'm stuck in an animation, it's annoying because they just wait for me to break the pallet, it's not much because they will escape, usually I can just follow the sound, they just do it because "Oh, hey. Easy bloodpoints". Other than that I don't care, except that one time they managed to make me drop a survivor even tho I was looking at a wall, I was pretty confused

  • ClogWench
    ClogWench Member Posts: 2,582
    I just bring Lightborn when I see a flashlight in the lobby. They're annoying but honestly not hard to play around. Besides, I'm not gonna begrudge a survivor for usibg a tool they're given.
  • UwU
    UwU Member Posts: 50

    Exactly, people don't use flashlights just to piss you off, we use them because it gives us the control in a chase and the power, the game is literally about survival and killers complain when survivors try to do that.

  • UwU
    UwU Member Posts: 50

    @ClogWench said:
    I just bring Lightborn when I see a flashlight in the lobby. They're annoying but honestly not hard to play around. Besides, I'm not gonna begrudge a survivor for usibg a tool they're given.

    Lol imagine using lightborn when you can literally just look up.

  • brokedownpalace
    brokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,803
    edited February 2019
    ITT: killers whining about not enjoying some of the only ways survivors can defend themselves.

    You know what annoys me when I play survivor? Getting hit or hooked. Think of my feelings and enjoyment, you selfish killers

    Lol @ "I don't use the flaslight cause it's mean." This is not a children's game.
  • ClogWench
    ClogWench Member Posts: 2,582
    UwU said:

    @ClogWench said:
    I just bring Lightborn when I see a flashlight in the lobby. They're annoying but honestly not hard to play around. Besides, I'm not gonna begrudge a survivor for usibg a tool they're given.

    Lol imagine using lightborn when you can literally just look up.

    This might shock you but sometimes you get blinded when you're locked in an animation and can't look up. 
  • KingB
    KingB Member Posts: 747
    @PiiFree have fun watching survivors bait the pallet drop and get an extra 1-2 loops. 
  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340
    I have no mercy against flashlight and ds. Karmic justice.
  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154

    @KingB said:
    @PiiFree have fun watching survivors bait the pallet drop and get an extra 1-2 loops. 

    Thanks but in my matches I bait the pallets, not the Survivors :)

  • KingB
    KingB Member Posts: 747
    @PiiFree that might work the first time, but any smart survivor will see you respecting pallets and then just not throw it down. 
  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    @UwU said:

    @ClogWench said:
    I just bring Lightborn when I see a flashlight in the lobby. They're annoying but honestly not hard to play around. Besides, I'm not gonna begrudge a survivor for usibg a tool they're given.

    Lol imagine using lightborn when you can literally just look up.

    How is a killer supposed to look up when they destroy a pallet? You should play some games as killer.

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154

    @KingB said:
    @PiiFree that might work the first time, but any smart survivor will see you respecting pallets and then just not throw it down. 

    Did you miss the part where I said "bait the drops without disrespecting the pallets"?

  • Coriander
    Coriander Member Posts: 1,119

    I run into pallets all the time intentionally. 9 times out of 10 you get the hit with the current hit boxes. I also get downed five or more feet from windows too, so it's a real issue.

  • Oooooof
    Oooooof Member Posts: 109

    The killer can just hear where the survivor is going when he is blinded? Flashlights is useless unless you try to flashlight save a survivor. I really hate all of these killers thats like "flashlight op" because its not. Just git gud

    btw i play killer and survivor 50/50.

  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775
    Don't forget that flashlights, and firecrackers destroy hag traps, burn a wraith out of cloak, and prevent a nurse from blinking. When shined on them, obviously. 
  • IamFran
    IamFran Member Posts: 1,616
    edited February 2019
    PiiFree said:

    @CJsDBD said:
    Which is worse, getting pallet stunned, or blinded?

    Pallet stunned is the result of the Killers incompetence.

    Flashlight is just unavoidable during pallet break animation, that's what makes it more annoying to deal with.

    I don't agree. I see good rank 1 killers in streams using enduring, are you telling indirectly they are incompetent?
    The problem of the "stop just before the pallet to avoid an stun" tactic is that sometimes you stop and the survivors dont use the pallet when you think they will do it, you waste time and the loop become even longer. It's better using enduring, get stunned intentionally and break the pallet and if they don't use it sometimes you don't waste time stopping and sometimes achieve a hit. 
  • BACKSTABBER
    BACKSTABBER Member Posts: 1,809

    @PiiFree said:

    @CJsDBD said:
    Which is worse, getting pallet stunned, or blinded?

    Pallet stunned is the result of the Killers incompetence.

    yes, thats why I think Truetalent is playing worse and worse lately

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,020

    @BACKSTABBER said:

    @PiiFree said:

    @CJsDBD said:
    Which is worse, getting pallet stunned, or blinded?

    Pallet stunned is the result of the Killers incompetence.

    yes, thats why I think Truetalent is playing worse and worse lately

    How bad has Tru3 become lately
    He might plan on doing a hiatus

  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340
    Don't speak about Tru3, fans might get upset.
  • KingB
    KingB Member Posts: 747
    @PiiFree How does that work? You either respect the pallet or disrespect the pallet. What other course of action is there?
  • Detective_Jonathan
    Detective_Jonathan Member Posts: 1,165

    Yea it's the satisfaction for me, considering that survivors have limited tools to fight back against the killer i always try to play the protector role when i bring one in.

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154
    edited February 2019

    @IamFran said:
    I don't agree. I see good rank 1 killers in streams using enduring, are you telling indirectly they are incompetent?
    The problem of the "stop just before the pallet to avoid an stun" tactic is that sometimes you stop and the survivors dont use the pallet when you think they will do it, you waste time and the loop become even longer. It's better using enduring, get stunned intentionally and break the pallet and if they don't use it sometimes you don't waste time stopping and sometimes achieve a hit. 

    It's obviously different when you run a perk build that revolves around eating pallets, such as Spirit Fury & Enduring.

    But I'm curious, what "good" Killers are you talking about?

    I know many Killers that believe "eating" and breaking each pallet as quickly as possible is the most efficient way to play Killer. It's not.

    Yes, stopping in front of the pallet is probably the most predictable and easiest way to bait a pallet drop without getting stunned but that's not what I'm talking about. You can lunge into a pallet but stop right before you enter the hitbox of the pallet. Of course you can only do that if the hit would actually connect, good survivors will know that by judging the distance and drop the pallet to avoid the hit, allowing you to bait it. As a Billy main, I can quickly revv my chainsaw to let them think I'm expecting them to drop the pallet so they could continue the loop safely but in fact I'm just revving the chainsaw for a very short time to make them believe I wanna immediately break it with the chainsaw. So they continue the loop and I can easily catch up.

    You'll also lose bloodlust when you get stunned or break a pallet, this allows them to easily get to the next pallet and your chase never really improves. Each pallet resets your whole chase progression until they run out of pallets,

    I also see lots of "good" Killers breaking every single pallet that gets dropped even if it makes absolutely no sense to break it at that point.

    But anyway, pallets are not really part of this topic.

    E: To make it simple, you can bait a pallet without feeding them the stun. You can mindgame to respect or disrespect the pallets to bait them into either dropping the pallet or going for another lap that you'll easily be able to catch up with bloodlust. This is obiously harder if you eat every pallet and therefore never get your bloodlust up.

  • IamFran
    IamFran Member Posts: 1,616

    @PiiFree said:

    @IamFran said:
    I don't agree. I see good rank 1 killers in streams using enduring, are you telling indirectly they are incompetent?
    The problem of the "stop just before the pallet to avoid an stun" tactic is that sometimes you stop and the survivors dont use the pallet when you think they will do it, you waste time and the loop become even longer. It's better using enduring, get stunned intentionally and break the pallet and if they don't use it sometimes you don't waste time stopping and sometimes achieve a hit. 

    It's obviously different when you run a perk build that revolves around eating pallets, such as Spirit Fury & Enduring.

    But I'm curious, what "good" Killers are you talking about?

    I know many Killers that believe "eating" and breaking each pallet as quickly as possible is the most efficient way to play Killer. It's not.

    Yes, stopping in front of the pallet is probably the most predictable and easiest way to bait a pallet drop without getting stunned but that's not what I'm talking about. You can lunge into a pallet but stop right before you enter the hitbox of the pallet. Of course you can only do that if the hit would actually connect, good survivors will know that by judging the distance and drop the pallet to avoid the hit, allowing you to bait it. As a Billy main, I can quickly revv my chainsaw to let them think I'm expecting them to drop the pallet so they could continue the loop safely but in fact I'm just revving the chainsaw for a very short time to make them believe I wanna immediately break it with the chainsaw. So they continue the loop and I can easily catch up.

    You'll also lose bloodlust when you get stunned or break a pallet, this allows them to easily get to the next pallet and your chase never really improves. Each pallet resets your whole chase progression until they run out of pallets,

    I also see lots of "good" Killers breaking every single pallet that gets dropped even if it makes absolutely no sense to break it at that point.

    But anyway, pallets are not really part of this topic.

    I usually watch one called Carlosxiri from my country and Truetalent too but very few times.

  • Lanis_
    Lanis_ Member Posts: 183
    Killers have Ebony Mori and OP add-on (huntress instadown?) and whining about flashlight that get raped nerf after nerf..

    1) there is a perk: lightborn, if u don't like flashlight, use it.(like me that run enduring with almost every killer because i don't like pallet stun and DS).
    2) after all nerf to flashlight and related add-ons, u must need a lot of practice/skill for save another survivor from the shoulder of killer..
    3) the killer have at least 2 tactics for avoiding flashlight's save..
    first: put yourself on survivor and look down for a couple of second (bait for make running the other survivor), look around, hit other survivor.

    Second: an horrible and terrible exploit/bug that BHV don't fixes.