RIP DS
Thanks BHVR for ruining yet another survivor perk, did you take into account Enduring will make it a 1 second stun? The fact that slugging will become a thing again? You keep nerfing survivors, the CORE of your player base, and you will kill this game. I hope all the reddit killers and cry baby Tru3 are happy they are helping to kill this game.
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They legit didnt take slugging into account the 60 seconds is gonna be useless if you are on the floor they also forgot enduring is in the game its gonna make it a 1 second stun timer behavior seriously this proves you dont play your own game.
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I'm loving the new changes.
Thanks devs for doing the right thing!
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@KrustyNuggets said:
Thanks BHVR for ruining yet another survivor perk, did you take into account Enduring will make it a 1 second stun? The fact that slugging will become a thing again? You keep nerfing survivors, the CORE of your player base, and you will kill this game. I hope all the reddit killers and cry baby Tru3 are happy they are helping to kill this game.huh, nerfing one of the most op perks in the game is killing it?
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how is it OP? It literally only extends a chase briefly. There are way more survivor mains than killer mains. 4 survivors vs 1 killer per game. How is killers the CORE base? They are outnumbered. They just keep catering to the whiny ass crybaby butt hurt killers on twitch and reddit and are further killing this game. Not to mention the last DLC was complete trash. I love this game but they are killing it.
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only ######### killers ######### about DS
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No more first down DS, no more wiggle DS. It was a needed change. You still get a second chance if tunneled off-hook or kobe, but at least killers have a chance to earn some hook BP before you do so. Survivors will be fine and still escape plenty.
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If they take out the timer... I think it would be gravy
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@KrustyNuggets said:
how is it OP? It literally only extends a chase briefly. There are way more survivor mains than killer mains. 4 survivors vs 1 killer per game. How is killers the CORE base? They are outnumbered. They just keep catering to the whiny ass crybaby butt hurt killers on twitch and reddit and are further killing this game. Not to mention the last DLC was complete trash. I love this game but they are killing it.Because there's an abundance of survivors? regardless of how many survivors there are, without a killer there is NO GAME the queues as survivor are long and killer it's instant so that proves how imbalanced the numbers are at the moment.
So yes the killers are the core.
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Man...its as if some of these posters havent been able to win a game WITHOUT DS. It's really not hard. So this change really doesnt affect much.
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I actually love this change... no momentum loss in the beginning of the match... no need for to ignore anyone... I just hope that the timer doesn't continue to count down while slugged0
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@GraviteaUK said:
@KrustyNuggets said:
how is it OP? It literally only extends a chase briefly. There are way more survivor mains than killer mains. 4 survivors vs 1 killer per game. How is killers the CORE base? They are outnumbered. They just keep catering to the whiny ass crybaby butt hurt killers on twitch and reddit and are further killing this game. Not to mention the last DLC was complete trash. I love this game but they are killing it.Because there's an abundance of survivors? regardless of how many survivors there are, without a killer there is NO GAME the queues as survivor are long and killer it's instant so that proves how imbalanced the numbers are at the moment.
So yes the killers are the core.
you CLEARLY don't know what ur talking about, the survivor to killer ratio is 4:1
The timer is complete BS, the having to be hooked first is complete BS.
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@KrustyNuggets said:
@GraviteaUK said:
@KrustyNuggets said:
how is it OP? It literally only extends a chase briefly. There are way more survivor mains than killer mains. 4 survivors vs 1 killer per game. How is killers the CORE base? They are outnumbered. They just keep catering to the whiny ass crybaby butt hurt killers on twitch and reddit and are further killing this game. Not to mention the last DLC was complete trash. I love this game but they are killing it.Because there's an abundance of survivors? regardless of how many survivors there are, without a killer there is NO GAME the queues as survivor are long and killer it's instant so that proves how imbalanced the numbers are at the moment.
So yes the killers are the core.
you CLEARLY don't know what ur talking about, the survivor to killer ratio is 4:1
The timer is complete BS, the having to be hooked first is complete BS.
So you think because the ratio is 4/1 numbers are all that matters in determining balance and core?
That tells me all i need to know, have fun lol
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This is a rly good DS change.
If you hate tunneling.
Use DS.
And you should remember 1 thing.
Survivors had a God Mode for 1,5 years.
And they are still stronger than killers.
So yes, survivors need nerfs or killer should get buffs.3 -
U can take tenacity and crawl to the exit, or to a spot where survivors can bodyblock. Furthermore, a killer who wastes 60 seconds on the slug doesn't make himself a favor, swf will pound the gens left and right during that time.
Ahh, and btw: obsession DS gets slugged or ignored anyway, so I don't see the difference tbh3 -
@KrustyNuggets said:
Thanks BHVR for ruining yet another survivor perk, did you take into account Enduring will make it a 1 second stun? The fact that slugging will become a thing again? You keep nerfing survivors, the CORE of your player base, and you will kill this game. I hope all the reddit killers and cry baby Tru3 are happy they are helping to kill this game.Buhuhuhuhhhhh, my overpowered perks are gone, the game is getting balanced cant bully bully anymore. buhuhuhuhuhhhh
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It's fine. I love the rework.
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@GraviteaUK said:
the queues as survivor are long and killer it's instant so that proves how imbalanced the numbers are at the moment.
Pretty sure this is platform dependent. Longest I've had to wait for survivor games is about 1 min so I'm not sure where these long survivor queues are?
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@ToxicFengM1n said:
@KrustyNuggets said:
Thanks BHVR for ruining yet another survivor perk, did you take into account Enduring will make it a 1 second stun? The fact that slugging will become a thing again? You keep nerfing survivors, the CORE of your player base, and you will kill this game. I hope all the reddit killers and cry baby Tru3 are happy they are helping to kill this game.huh, nerfing one of the most op perks in the game is killing it?
now last piece is killer is the CORE player baseNah it means nerfing HIS playstyle.
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@Hexyl said:
They legit didnt take slugging into account the 60 seconds is gonna be useless if you are on the floor they also forgot enduring is in the game its gonna make it a 1 second stun timer behavior seriously this proves you dont play your own game.LMAO and you're barely realizing this now?
Welcome to DBD players back in 2016xD
Well let's hope this change helps you remember this for future changes..
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The fact that some people actually gave this guy vote ups is kind of sad.
Listen buddy, you should try and give killer a try and see how being stabbed in the back feels, as someone who plays both sides, it sickens me to have to sit here and read these threads of all the crying and complaining about how something is't going your way. If you don't like the change, then all i can tell you is don't run the perk. Other than that, Have fun running the same boring perk to the same boring playstyle.
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@KrustyNuggets said:
Thanks BHVR for ruining yet another survivor perk, did you take into account Enduring will make it a 1 second stun? The fact that slugging will become a thing again? You keep nerfing survivors, the CORE of your player base, and you will kill this game. I hope all the reddit killers and cry baby Tru3 are happy they are helping to kill this game.Enduring didn't fully counter it, just made it less brain dead. Also, Ds now will begin during the pick up animation, so it prevents dribbling.
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@Detective_Jonathan said:
The fact that some people actually gave this guy vote ups is kind of sad.Listen buddy, you should try and give killer a try and see how being stabbed in the back feels, as someone who plays both sides, it sickens me to have to sit here and read these threads of all the crying and complaining about how something is't going your way. If you don't like the change, then all i can tell you is don't run the perk. Other than that, Have fun running the same boring perk to the same boring playstyle.
+1 My first thought as well. It's terrifying that there's that many people who actually think this way.
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Im never gonna use this perk again not worth it personally
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@Blueberry said:
@Detective_Jonathan said:
The fact that some people actually gave this guy vote ups is kind of sad.Listen buddy, you should try and give killer a try and see how being stabbed in the back feels, as someone who plays both sides, it sickens me to have to sit here and read these threads of all the crying and complaining about how something is't going your way. If you don't like the change, then all i can tell you is don't run the perk. Other than that, Have fun running the same boring perk to the same boring playstyle.
+1 My first thought as well. It's terrifying that there's that many people who actually think this way.
Yes it's not that the perk was strong - which it was - but that it was not fun. Getting punished for doing your objective, that is downing survivors, was a terrible idea.
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@Detective_Jonathan said:
The fact that some people actually gave this guy vote ups is kind of sad.Listen buddy, you should try and give killer a try and see how being stabbed in the back feels, as someone who plays both sides, it sickens me to have to sit here and read these threads of all the crying and complaining about how something is't going your way. If you don't like the change, then all i can tell you is don't run the perk. Other than that, Have fun running the same boring perk to the same boring playstyle.
This 100%! DS needed the change.
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They made it like deliverance now, very situational but extremely useful when given the chance to use it
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I am not sure, its an unfun perk by design and needed changed (or deleted) but this change could mean killers start to play in an unfun way for more survivors not just those who used it.
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@twistedmonkey said:
I am not sure, its an unfun perk by design and needed changed (or deleted) but this change could mean killers start to play in an unfun way for more survivors not just those who used it.How? DS now punishes tunneling. Who likes tunneling?
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So you prefer to be tunneled and hooked two times in a minute than being slugged having the opportunity of being healed without being hooked.
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@Okapi said:
@twistedmonkey said:
I am not sure, its an unfun perk by design and needed changed (or deleted) but this change could mean killers start to play in an unfun way for more survivors not just those who used it.How? DS now punishes tunneling. Who likes tunneling?
More slugging for everyone not just those that used DS as they dont know now.
Bring a Mori more often so they cant use DS.
Dying Light do you want your obsession to change more often? nope ill just camp them till they die.Think about this scenario for one example :-
Tunnel, slug, soft patrol, hit those that come in, they heal up, rinse and repeat, the survivors will come, history shows that with how much they reward hook campers instead of doing gens.
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@KrustyNuggets said:
@GraviteaUK said:
@KrustyNuggets said:
how is it OP? It literally only extends a chase briefly. There are way more survivor mains than killer mains. 4 survivors vs 1 killer per game. How is killers the CORE base? They are outnumbered. They just keep catering to the whiny ass crybaby butt hurt killers on twitch and reddit and are further killing this game. Not to mention the last DLC was complete trash. I love this game but they are killing it.Because there's an abundance of survivors? regardless of how many survivors there are, without a killer there is NO GAME the queues as survivor are long and killer it's instant so that proves how imbalanced the numbers are at the moment.
So yes the killers are the core.
you CLEARLY don't know what ur talking about, the survivor to killer ratio is 4:1
The timer is complete BS, the having to be hooked first is complete BS.
Bro calm down it's not a big deal that perk isn't a must use perk like how some people think so... just a game man.
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@twistedmonkey said:
More slugging for everyone not just those that used DS as they dont know now.
Bring a Mori more often so they cant use DS.
Dying Light do you want your obsession to change more often? nope ill just camp them till they die.If a killer waits a whole minute before picking up an unhooked survivor (4 minutes if they do that for every survivor) they will easily lose the game. Gives the other survivors ample time to rush gens. Anti-Slugging perks also exist.
Ebony Moris are the only ones that would counter this new DS and it's not like they're exactly common.
We have no idea how Dying Light will work with changing Obsessions. But I'll give you that it might be an issue. However Dying Light by its very nature encourages tunneling the obsession. Survivors hate being tunneled so in the devs eyes they could see a nerf for DL being okay.
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Devs did it greatMister_Holdout said:I'm loving the new changes.
Thanks devs for doing the right thing!
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They already do it and funily enough the only reason why is that it gets rewarded, the point is if it turns out to be viable and many already slugged the DS users why not slug everyone after being unhooked? As I said history shows survivors are reluctant to do gens when killers use strats like this and try to bait the killer away.Okapi said:@twistedmonkey said:
More slugging for everyone not just those that used DS as they dont know now.
Bring a Mori more often so they cant use DS.
Dying Light do you want your obsession to change more often? nope ill just camp them till they die.If a killer waits a whole minute before picking up an unhooked survivor (4 minutes if they do that for every survivor) they will easily lose the game. Gives the other survivors ample time to rush gens. Anti-Slugging perks also exist.
Ebony Moris are the only ones that would counter this new DS and it's not like they're exactly common.
We have no idea how Dying Light will work with changing Obsessions. But I'll give you that it might be an issue. However Dying Light by its very nature encourages tunneling the obsession. Survivors hate being tunneled so in the devs eyes they could see a nerf for DL being okay.
Ebony mories are quite plentiful with people with lots of hours, they just don't always feel the need to always use them unless its an SWF flashlight/toolbox squad, this may give them another reason.
Dying light is just one perk and I have thought it needs a reworked due to its nature but PWYF and STBFL also mean you don't want to hit the person who used DS on you now.
Hopefully they are looking at these perks but right now without knowing the concerns are something worth bringing to their attention.
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Sounds like you like your OP perk. Nice to see it go1
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But now people who want to taunt the killer might have to play properly. Oh no.0
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Good balance between use and counters. Even if your slugged, that's 1min for teammates to pick you up or the killer doing nothing while they wait. For those complaining that killer can deny it, I would respectfully refer you to every survivor rebuttal for hex totems destruction being fair.1
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And you would make killer mains really happy.Jonathanskilz said:Im never gonna use this perk again not worth it personally
But anyway, I have never used DS, and certainly never will now, but i think the "anti tunnel" change is clever, but yeah, sweaty killer will slug you anyway. Mybe they could do that the timer only works if you are not downed? That would be better.
In my case, i always hit the unhooker, because i always think they have Borrowed Time, so yeah.
My killer games will now be "no DS games" *angelic_choirs.mp3*
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How is it RIP?
They buffed it.
It still does the same thing, except with a caveat.
But now it can reset killer obsession perks up to 4 times every game.0 -
So don’t use it? There are tons of useless perks on both sides. This one was OP, now it’s situational. If you couldn’t win without old DS then you are not good.1
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Only ######### survivors use it and are crying about the nerf. It was OP, accept it. Anyone with a brain could see it was OP.KrustyNuggets said:only ######### killers ######### about DS
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