The second iteration of 2v8 is now LIVE - find out more information here: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/480-2v8-developer-update

To those who cry about NOED

2

Comments

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    Im at rank 5, and when a p3 claudette enter the lobby they just equip a mori, is really normal to me too see a mori.

    My Claudette is p3 but I don’t use the outfit.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:

    I try, but the principal problem are the teammates...

    Teammates can be a killer but most of the time my teammates are competent.

    That RARELY happens to me, most of them play ninja and sometimes they just let me die for 1 generator, they do not care that I has been chased for 4 minutes ..

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:

    I try, but the principal problem are the teammates...

    Teammates can be a killer but most of the time my teammates are competent.

    Fun fact: Dead by daylight got nominee in steam awards in the category "Fun with friends".

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    That RARELY happens to me, most of them play ninja and sometimes they just let me die for 1 generator, they do not care that I has been chased for 4 minutes ..

    Those teammates are annoying and i’ve encountered them, but I can move on to the next game and try to escape in that one.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433
    edited February 2019

    @HeHeBoii said:

    @Arroz said:

    @HeHeBoii said:

    @Arroz said:

    @HeHeBoii said:

    @Arroz said:

    @HeHeBoii said:

    @Arroz said:

    @Yamaoka said:
    Are you able to read? I am not a survivor main. I'm a player with more hours as killer than survivor and I say it's too easy to win as killer right now while nearly impossible as solo survivor. That's not balance. If you don't agree you're clearly bad at the game. Most maps are just a bunch of objects and a few unsafe pallets and unsafe windows that can't be mindgamed. Big challenge - not.

    But obviously you don't want to have a challenge. You just want a braindead 4k. Definitely a ruin+noed player 😂

    Git gud.

    And for these reason im never gonna stop playing swf now, I liked to play solo but it's a total joke now.
    Well said.

    SWF on Voice Coms = Balanced game

    Solo survivors = Joke

    Not as much as a SWF on voice coms.

    Killers can deal with a swf, you have mori's, iridiscent head, Ew3 infinite, noed, frank's mixtape (totally unbalanced), insta chainsaw, omega 5 blink nurse and the broken hitboxes :)..

    And one of you can loop and all gen rush with Prove thyself. What's your point mate, cuz u ain't getting to it.

    The only thing of survivor can do is loop, what do you want to survivor do? run in a straight line?,
    If I see a toolbox in my lobby I equip franklin's + SB
    Easy :)

    Definitely the only thing you can rely on is loop. You are right you beautiful person. <3

    Im trying to survive, what do you want me to do? give a killer 2 free hooks?, run in a straight line?
    Just tell me how to survive if the killer found me without loop? Come on.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Arroz it is fun with friends, i’ve played with Vietfox and it was really fun.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @HeHeBoii learning loop counters is apart of killer now sadly.

  • Theluckyboi
    Theluckyboi Member Posts: 1,113
    edited February 2019

    @HeHeBoii said:
    Noed Counter - Destroy totums
    Tears wiped away. Ahh love when entitled Survivors cry on forums about easy counters.

    Killer mains: lmao NOED is not overpowered just cleanse the totem its so simple you noobs xD

    SWF is the only viable way to cleanse all the totems

    also killer mains: sWf iS oVeRpoWEREd PLZ nErF

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Arroz it is fun with friends, i’ve played with Vietfox and it was really fun.

    Your right, but for some people it is "Unbalanced", I personally prefer to play with that unbalanced thing and have fun, for this I buy the game for have fun, not for get every game the ez 4 escapes, And I consider that for the killer it can not be fun, but they have things/addons to make it even more fun and balanced like the mori.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Theluckyboi you can easily cleanse all totems alone i’ve done it several times and survived.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Arroz it is fun with friends, i’ve played with Vietfox and it was really fun.

    Hey just a question, why vietfox got banned?
    Cof cof Mandytalk Cof cof
    Nah just joking, pls dont ban me.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Arroz it is not our job to care about what our opponents think so do whatever makes you happy.

  • Slayer
    Slayer Member Posts: 1,148

    @Eveline said:
    Or play killer.

    And realize that noed is not top tier perk

  • Theluckyboi
    Theluckyboi Member Posts: 1,113

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Theluckyboi you can easily cleanse all totems alone i’ve done it several times and survived.

    Yeah, ive also done that, but its not easy when your team has to concentrate its efforts on gens and are too busy to cleanse the totems, most of the time they prefer to do the gens.

    i have played a lot of games with NOED and i can only recall 2 times where it didnt activate

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @HeHeBoii learning loop counters is apart of killer now sadly.

    Maybe equip spirit fury and enduring?

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Arroz I love those perks and they’re really good for beating loops.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @Theluckyboi said:

    @HeHeBoii said:
    Noed Counter - Destroy totums
    Tears wiped away. Ahh love when entitled Survivors cry on forums about easy counters.

    Killer mains: lmao NOED is not overpowered just cleanse the totem its so simple you noobs xD

    SWF is the only viable way to cleanse all the totems

    also killer mains: sWf iS oVeRpoWEREd PLZ nErF

    Your post are funny but they are the truth.

  • Theluckyboi
    Theluckyboi Member Posts: 1,113
    edited February 2019

    I have said it a lot of times, NOED is a waste of space unless you are using it for specific builds, i only recommend it if you are new to the game

    it grants you hooks despite not applying enough map pressure and is really frustrating for survivors, just like DS is (or was) for killers

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    Apparently this troller * A.k.a the guy who spread toxicity * Disappeared, I love this forum, it's really funny.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Theluckyboi i’ve prevented it several times, no matter what if you want no chance of noed cleanse the totems always try. Also a good change to small game to let us know how many totems are left while still having the current effect.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Theluckyboi you can easily cleanse all totems alone i’ve done it several times and survived.

    For a solo survivor it consumes a lot of time, with that you can have more than half of a generator, since the problem is the team, which instead of repairing generators are hiding..

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Arroz I love those perks and they’re really good for beating loops.

    Yeah ik <3
    They are really good for counter loops, anyways this build is beast in the game map, because most pallets in that map are safe..

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Arroz they aren’t always hiding and if they are i’ll risk noed since I have bond and see them.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @Theluckyboi said:
    I have said it a lot of times, NOED is a waste of space unless you are using it for specific builds, i only recommend it if you are new to the game

    it grants you hooks despite not applying enough map pressure and is really frustrating for survivors, just like DS is (or was) for killers

    The difference is of a newbie can't hit the ds skillcheck lol

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Arroz they aren’t always hiding and if they are i’ll risk noed since I have bond and see them.

    Bond dont help too much, But I repeat, 90% of the time I get matched with a bad team (Sneaky claudette's who go to the other corner of the map for heal with sloopy butcher)

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Arroz that sucks and I guess my matches are just lucky maybe, but I usually keep killer chased for awhile.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Arroz that sucks and I guess my matches are just lucky maybe, but I usually keep killer chased for awhile.

    The only way to survive with bad mates is get chased for 5 generators.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Arroz those games where I get chased for 5 gens are always really fun, the chase is my favorite part.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Arroz those games where I get chased for 5 gens are always really fun, the chase is my favorite part.

    Personally the most fun game for me are the scary myers <3 It's the best of this game

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110
    edited February 2019

    @Arroz Scary Myers is fun to play as or against, but my favorite is hag cause those phantasms scare me. XD

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Arroz Scary Myers is fun to play as or against, but my favorite is hag cause those phantasms scare me. XD

    Yeah me too lmao, the most anooying build for me it's bodyblocker hag OMG THAT'S SO ANOOYING GOD XD

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Arroz i’ve never had the pleasure of going against bodyblock hag but hope to one day.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Arroz i’ve never had the pleasure of going against bodyblock hag but hope to one day.

    I've only had the pleasure to go against only 3 body blockers hags :(, I dont face too much hag's,

    Givehagsomelove

    Haglivesmatters

    Lol

  • DocFabron
    DocFabron Member Posts: 2,410
    With the way genrush is now, people who complain about NOED ought to stop thinking "meesa give genny handjob!" and start breaking totems.
  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Arroz

    HagLivesdomatter!!!!

  • Tucking_Friggered
    Tucking_Friggered Member Posts: 636

    Having the devs tell them to shut up and deal with it more or less was most satisfying. ;}

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Arroz

    HagLivesdomatter!!!!

    HagLivesdomatter!!!! x2

    Well I think it's time to go.. Nice to meet you!, You are that 10% of people who are nice in this forum haha..
    Bye!!

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Arroz thank you lol you’re nice too I hope we meet again.

  • Arroz
    Arroz Member Posts: 1,433

    @TreemanXD said:
    @Arroz thank you lol you’re nice too I hope we meet again.

    We are gonna meet again for sure ;)) (If I dont get banned lollll)
    Bye :)

  • Lanis_
    Lanis_ Member Posts: 183
    Yamaoka said:
    As someone else said on this forum:

    Killer mains: "IF A KILLER CAMPS JUST GEN RUSH!"
    *facecamping killer kills all 3 remaining survivors with noed*
    Killer mains: "JUST DO TOTEMS!"

    Let's just face it. 90% of all killer mains want an easy braindead 4k.

    - less pallets
    - less windows
    - shortened loops
    - exhaustion nerf
    - removed pallet vacuum
    - nerfed self care

    and killer mains still complain 😂

    At some point people will stop playing survivor. Why would someone play survivor if you get punished for doing so?

    I started out as a pure killer main myself 1.5 years ago before I decided to try survivor for a while so I know both sides evenly. What I can tell is that playing SOLO survivor is a total joke now. You rarely ever make it to the gates no matter how good you play. 

    Meanwhile I get easy 4k 3 minute games whenever I play killer even if I derp around. Now that's a balanced game... right?
    U have right 100%.

    I play solo survivor and killer 50/50.. i think i've played maybe 10 swf games in almost 1000 hrs of game.(i think that vocal comunication can ruin my experience of "survivor horror game")

    Killer is tooooo easy now , and don't like to play it anymore... except play Nurse and Huntress on ps4.. totally suicide...And I like it so much. (But are the only 2 killer with freddy that give me some fun anymore)
  • BACKSTABBER
    BACKSTABBER Member Posts: 1,809

    @HeHeBoii said:
    Noed Counter - Destroy totums
    Tears wiped away. Ahh love when entitled Survivors cry on forums about easy counters.

    yup thats the nerf already, totems disable it

  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    Coriander said:

    All DS needed was Enduring. If enough people vocalize a problem, they'll change it, as was just demonstrated.

    Enduring wasn't a counter. It depended entirely on where the survivor went down. If it was next to a mega loop or a huge number of pallets then they could easily extend the chase by a long time even with Enduring being used.
  • The_Crusader
    The_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688

    @HeHeBoii said:
    Noed Counter - Destroy totums
    Tears wiped away. Ahh love when entitled Survivors cry on forums about easy counters.

    Killer mains: lmao NOED is not overpowered just cleanse the totem its so simple you noobs xD

    SWF is the only viable way to cleanse all the totems

    also killer mains: sWf iS oVeRpoWEREd PLZ nErF

    They just want easy wins. This is obvious from everything you read on these forums. Everytime they come up with a buff idea or a hatch change idea it's extremely obvious that they never play survior because if they did they would understand how unfair their suggestions sound.

    NOED is such an easy guarenteed kills perk that it's dishonourable to use it. These people have no sense of sportsmanship though.
  • Paddy4583
    Paddy4583 Member Posts: 864
    edited February 2019
    @Paddy4583
    Did you read the news post, literally says the Dev's like how noed plays and there are no current intentions to change it. Kinda sad that you have to make unfounded gossip to validate a point. This perk is seriously weak in the grand scheme of a match, survivors that go down to it got to comfortable and were punished. In 60s both gates should be open and everybody alive escaped.
    @DemonDaddy think you missed the point.
    what gave me away that it wasn’t a comment on real events, was it the 60 second activation after the last survivor escapes or the 600% movement speed it gives to survivors.

    Good job you called me out people might have believed me! Eye roll emoji
  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154
    edited February 2019

    The amount of BS I see in this thread is truly next level.

    SWF is the only way to cleanse totems

    Like seriously? You're unable to press M1 without your friends? Give me a break, this is just ridiculous.

    Next up: We can't find the exit gates without SWF!

    Just keep in mind guys, your horrible performance without SWF is solely the result of lack of skill. Solo Survivor main here btw.

  • Paddy4583
    Paddy4583 Member Posts: 864
    PiiFree said:

    The amount of BS I see in this thread is truly next level.

    SWF is the only way to cleanse totems

    Like seriously? You're unable to press M1 without your friends? Give me a break, this is just ridiculous.

    Next up: We can't find the exit gates without SWF!

    Just keep in mind guys, your horrible performance without SWF is solely the result of lack of skill. Solo Survivor main here btw.

    I think they mean, the coordinating of SWF you can be systematic in getting all the totems and be aware of how many’s left how many’s gone, as a solo survivor its harder to ensure all Totems are gone. I don’t think they were suggesting it can’t be done?
  • HeroLives
    HeroLives Member Posts: 1,985
    As an entitled survivor main I mostly see no issue with noed. Unless it’s a toxic killer that’s running op ######### that actually knows what they’re doing and you struggled the entire match to get gens done and do saves , only to be hit with noed at the end Bc you didn’t have time to do totems. Which is a real thing. 

    Anytime the killer did poorly and my team ram gets hit with noed I’m like yeah we deserved this Bc we had time to cleanse the totems. 

    Soo it’s a double edge sword. I’m not going to call for a nerf or anything but in the right hands noed is op and will further throw a match. 

    I also think rancor is an op perk and should should be considered for a nerf war before noed. 
  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154
    edited February 2019

    @Paddy4583 said:
    I think they mean, the coordinating of SWF you can be systematic in getting all the totems and be aware of how many’s left how many’s gone, as a solo survivor its harder to ensure all Totems are gone. I don’t think they were suggesting it can’t be done?

    I'm aware of that, but the fact that people use SWF as a benchmark for balance these days is triggering me.

    The whole point of hidden totems and no voice communication IS to be totally clueless about the state and placement of the totems. SWF BREAKS this aspect of the game but people (mainly Survivor mains) act as if SWF is the way it's meant to be handled and SOLO breaks the game. As in; solo gives them unintended disadvantages but in reality, it's SWF that gives them unintended advantages.

    It's just ridiculous.

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    Counters to NOED:
    - Break all of the totems
    - GTFO of the level after a gate is opened
    - Break the active NOED totem.
    - Just don't get hit
        - 360
        - Loop
        - Dead Hard
    - You can use DS
    - Borrowed Time

    Are there any I left out?
  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154

    @Peasant said:
    Counters to NOED:

    • Break all of the totems
    • GTFO of the level after a gate is opened
    • Break the active NOED totem.
    • Just don't get hit
          - 360
          - Loop
          - Dead Hard

    • You can use DS

    • Borrowed Time

    Are there any I left out?

    Adrenaline to win distance in case the last gen pops during the chase. The speed boost should be enough to keep the Killer busy until gates are open or the totem's broken, easy escape.

This discussion has been closed.