Can noed be nerfed
Noed is OP and can ruin a game because of getting hit once then your facecamped because the gens are done. Can noed only work on survivers who have been hooked or tell survivers that they are exposed before they get hit
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learn the counterplay.
there is plenty of it, just use it and the perk will be no problem for you anymore.
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You should better ask for a totem counter in the HUD if you talk from a solo perspective. But when you play in 4 man SWF noed is completely fine and you as team failed to coordinate correctly to destroy the dull totems
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No, read the devs post on the DS change, they stated NOED is in a good place right now and has many counters and doesnt need changed.
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NOED will not be nerfed, it's a fact. Devs said so
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Not trying to get you down but there is a way to fight it already. If you do all the totems before opening the exit gates you can take it before it spawns. Personally I started to bring small game into ever game I play and play every game as if there is noed. While going gen to gen I break as many totems as possible.and once there is one gen left go on a totems hunt to make sure you got all 5 and let the teammates finish the last one.
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agreed.
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I have a screenshot folder of every NOED thread made in the last week. Every day there's 3-4 more made and every thread is the exact same formula.
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Do a gallery! You could then post a link every time another one pops up.
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How many of us even use NOED? I don't.
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No, NOED is fine since it's late game perk.
Only QoL changes should happen around NOED like notifiing survivors by some new subtle sound that all dull totems are cleansed.
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Either do the totem
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Don't, learn their position and instead of mindlesly rushing toward the exit gate when they are powered go check the totem you found and cleanse his noed
easy peasy lemon squeezy
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Also form the DS change QA
DS change happened, how about NOED changes?
We aren't planning to change NOED at the moment. We consider that NOED has multiple gameplay counters and is currently in a good place. We do not think of NOED as an equivalent to DS.
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Find totems, break totems. Congratulations, you have nerfed NOED.
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Noed is far from op. The original version of the perk was much more powerful. I wasn't a hex, gave movement on top of the insta-down. The perk has been toned way down since then and can be completely negated since it is a hex totem that can only activate if a dull totem is still up. By design you can actually, dictate exactly where noed is going to appear if you let it appear at all. Also the perk has a horrible track record of appearing on the most visible and accessible totems. If you've got the gates open, simply leave the game. If not, stay calm and out of the killer's sight till you either get the totem or open a door.
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Pls dont post that on this forum, this is killer main territory, if you want to people actually agree with you go to reddit. (Sad true)
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Sad lie. Most of the people on this forum play both sides, which is why we tell people like the OP to use the long list of counters NOED has, while simultaneously telling people who think the Nurse should be buffed to git gud.
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Ahhh this topic again
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No, its not, cleanse totems and you will be fine, NOED is at a fine state and is easily countered
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Small game
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SWF is a thing, small game is a thing, Detective's hunch is a thing, cleansing totems is a thing, maps are a thing, you know you already have lots of counters to noed, you just don't want to use them.
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Learn to counter that #########, God damn.
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How do you believe a person in internet who plays in both sides? Do you have proof to confirm it?.. It's like to say ochido fans are killer main.. the only survivor main forum territory is reddit.
(Trying to be a SuRvIvOr MaIn)
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The problem with noed isnt its strength, its that it is not dynamic and acts as a crutch for tough games or bad killers. It insentivises killers to play the game in the least dynamic way because it prevents saves and a killer who gets someone down either camps the survivor, or leaves and tries to grt downs at gates which are likely open and relies on the stupidity of the survivor.
Plus, the fact it is a totem makes it a bummer if the killer relied ln its strength and has it ripped away. It is an awful perk because it teaches killers how to play poorly.
Dont criticize without suggestions so here is one. Make noed permenant buff at endgame (no totem) and instead of instadown at all levels, it removes survivors speed burst when they get hit. This does 3 things:
Shortens chase times (like current)
Remains in play untill the game over
Adds a dynamic to dbd that is fresh and makes the perk unique.
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Just cleanse the totems and the perk wont even activate
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I see as much noed as I do DS. I wouldn’t say it needs a nerf to the instadown, but definitely to the speed boost.
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It's not that hard to clear all the totems....I cleared them all by myself last night.....At they were hidden pretty well hidden.
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NOED is trash and needs to be fixed like DS and Legion.
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Honestly I just feel like there are too many options that create the exposed status.
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You mean just like BT is a crutch for bad survivors doing ######### saves and prevents m1 killers from having an actual endgame.
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I hope the people defending NOED arent the same as the ones who complain about SWF
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@Theluckyboi ok I have no problem with SWF, but how are they comparable? Can you cleanse 5 totems and the swf disappears? No? Ok then please explain.
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SWF is the only fully viable way to cleanse the totems, otherwise you will need the help of a map or detectives hunch to cleanse them all on your own, and not everyone likes using those
besides, just like old DS, unless you are a mildly experienced player you wont have any idea on how to counter it
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@Theluckyboi I play solo mostly with small game and I usually cleanse all totems, why do so many survivors like you act like totem cleansing is hard?
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If you're not in a SWF then there's no reason for you to stay and be altruistic. NOED in that case just downs 1 survivor unless the survivors are being dumb.
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I have played up to rank 4 as survivor and for what i have seen, my companions most of the time are too busy doing gens and searching for items to care about the totems, when we have reached endgame almost no totem has been cleansed and the killer gets away with his free hooks
on the other hand, when playing as a killer i can only recall 2 times playing NOED where it didnt activate and both of them were 4 man SWF, which really shows just how broken this perk can be sometimes, never a solo team against me has been able to cleanse all 4 totems (it may be luck, anyways)
perhaps it is because of the skill gap between PS4 and PC?
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@Theluckyboi I also play on PS4, and I said I cleanse the totems all of them it isn’t hard.
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Btw I’m rank 5 survivor
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Do this: Run Small Game and use a map with "Red Twine" add-on.
This will help you locate totems and prevent NOED. I know, I use to hate NOED but I switched my stance, it's a balanced perk for the most part.
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1) Don't ignore dulls when you run by them.
2) If you must ignore dulls such as when in a chase or rescuing someone, remember their location.
3) If you gen rush the game in 3-5 minutes it's your own fault for what happens in terms of NOED since you ignored the very real possibility of it.
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This will never happen because it goes against bEhavi0ur's prime directive: "Always, above all else hold the Killers hand".
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Yeah, thats something ive noticed a lot around here
in twitter the complains i see are mostly about killer being overpowered, the massive hitboxes and SWF waiting times being awful
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@Theluckyboi Facebook is also extremely survivor biased I’ve noticed.
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Noed is not going to be change at all
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It's because their are lots of casual survivor, it's normal for them to go on the "casual" social media to complain about the game instead of going to specialised forum.
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I've got a little over 400 hours in (mostly as Survivor). My two highest killers are Hag (40) and Leatherface (40). I think my next highest may be Doctor (6). All my Survivors are (40)+ and my Claudette is P3 (50) with all perks. I play a lot of Survivor mainly because getting games is faster.
Never had a problem with NOED. It's unfortunate if you get caught and hooked because if I I'm playing solo and it's up, the Entity is going to have you for a snack. Ain't no one got time for that. I also cleanse every totem I see so maybe that's part of it as well........
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I guess all the one shot killers who have noed all match need to be nerf'ed too.
Crappy thing to learn to play against it kind of like how you play against Hill Billy. You know Billy can one shot you the whole match right?
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Maybe because we who play both sides realize that survivors are powerful.
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@Orion @Poweas
Of course the forum is "killersided", because a) killer are rarely play exclusive killer, but also survivor at least a bit. But a lot of survivor play ONLY survivor and do not care or don't even understand how it is to play killer b) the survivor are the stronger side, so they don't go to the forum to complain, but play happy go lucky and pad themselves on the shoulder for being so skillful c) killer have actual arguments, reason and logic supporting their complains, while survivor are just emotional, entitled and offended. So they "loss" their debates and leave at some point to get replaced by the next very vocal survivor main complaining and the same killer mains need to explain everything again. (like how math works)
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