DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE PLAGUE.
I know it feels like she is super weak and just another bad addition to the game, but in every single killer release to this day, the devs have buffed the killer before release onto the live servers. take the spirit, for example, she was very weak to begin with, but very soon, the devs heard the community and buffed her to the point where she is now a great killer and very fun to play. All i am really saying is, dont worry, the killer is always weak on PTB release, she will get buffed.🤢
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I think she's awesome, she's kind of like Myers, you can bombard with VP the whole chase until they're Broken then instadown them.
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I think she's fine it's just the fountains giving a free heal that's the problem.
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I don't think you are fully correct here. She isn't weak but we don't know how to play her optimally yet. Her power is completely amazing (except the slight fps drops). It's got enough counter play while beiing very powerful if used correctly.
When people figure out the best strategies and get optimal perks for her she'll be A tier like billy or at least hag/huntress imao. I just hope that some exploity things that I already found get patched out otherwise she'll be nuts OP.
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We have to tell the devs what to buff though so I hope they read the posts and take what we are saying into consideration. The insta heals at fountains are the biggest issue in my opinion. I hope they change it during the PTB so we can test that before release.
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She is interesting. Very neat. THey need to make cleansing for the heal much longer.
Either that, or take it instant heal away and try that.
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Yes,you can do that once while 3 gens pop on the other side of the map. Great!
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Definitely its either they keep the free heal and make it so it takes a lot longer to cleanse in the fountain or make it quick cleanse and remove the free insta heal
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It'd have to be pretty long to warrant a free heal, I'd say it be a lot easier and more fair to just remove the heal.
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Remove insta heal and I'd have no problems!
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For every upside, there's a downside
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I think once people learn how to manage the corrupt puke she will be seen as a LOT better. Right now I'm just seeing Plague's immediately go to get the power up. If they let them go for a bit and fill up all but 1, then it becomes harder for them to cure sickness and you can get a good snowball going with corruption.
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The fountain cleanse already is fairly quick (and with no skillchecks)
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but what about the fact that she is completely countered by people who know how to loop efieciently and can adapt to breaking line of sight
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This post was originally made for the people who think that she is weak, i personally love her, but think she need the heal removed from her fountains.
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From what I tried you can use your power over a lot of loops and those you can't you can still force the pallet down in that area and move on.
I haven't had enough games (or perks) to try all the tactics I want so I'm still forming a opinion as well. Maybe I'm wrong and she is mid tierish but even then she is so much fun to play unlike Legion was.
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Getting heals from fountains is fine. She can rail gun healthy survivors with her power once she powers it up.
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Pretty much. I just watched Tru3 play her, he's had a few hours with her already. He was saying how bad she is yet he was vomiting when survivors clearly weren't in range and was even trying to do it at pallets to survivors already in the broken status.
I mean she can punish gen tapping, and like Legion there's a feeling of not getting away? once she pukes on you then you're gonna be injured eventually. Not to mention she can infect vaults and pallets so if they try to loop her for long they're gonna be injured eventually anyway, meaning she only needs to get 1 hit in.
I see why the fountains heal survivors. It makes sense really. I'm not saying the fountain healing time couldn't be increased but it does need to heal them. They're already wasting time running off to them anyway.
Again she can punish survivors that vault, pallet loop, gen tap etc she has quite a diverse kit. Not to mention the corrupted purge looks extremely strong. You can even spray it through windows for the free down.
People don't even have optimal perks on her yet.
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Ive been watching him too. He didnt get the power in the beginning, but understood it now. Doesnt change a lot sadly, the insta heals are a big problem.
How does she punish gentapping? I dont get that
Yes you will become injured, but it takes really long and you dont have the time to wait for that. You puke on them, then you either wait until they become injured (which takes a lot of time) or you M1 them and make your M2 basically useless. Then you are forced to tunnel them since they can insta heal on the fountain which you can allow basically.
She can infect survivors that vault loop etc, but it REALLY isnt a punishment. THe only strong thing she has is the corurpted vomit, but you gotta collect that form the other side of the map which takes time again....
Against inexperienced survivor she is OP, just like huntress, but once survivors understand how to loop a huntres, hide behind stuff etc huntress gets a lot harder to play and same applies to plague, with the difference that plague doesnt hurt with her ability=)
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No he's still playing badly.
How does it punish gentapping? well if they touch the gen while it's covered in goo they get infected and need to go cleanse at some point. That takes time. If they stay on the gen they will become broken eventually to.
Compare this to any other killer who can't do diddly-squat to gens.
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The fountains make you more powerful if they heal in it. It is not a "free heal", it comes at the price of increasing the killer's power.
Everyone always jumps to bs conclusions about free this, or free that. There is a strategy here. You want them to use the fountain, you then empower yourself. If they do it too early, they are hosed!
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I don't see this insta heal thing staying in the game, there is just no way around that.
As a killer, your whole stalling power comes from hooks and heals. If you give survivors insta heal ability, then prepare to lose all of your momentum since instead of trying to heal themselves up, they will get free insta heals.
I understand that her corrupted puke is powerful but this is not the way to go.
Also, survivors can choose whether stay injured and poised instead of giving the killer the ability to get corrupted.
Another counter is loud sound notification. The killer got the corruption? It is limited, just go and hide.
I don't think that the killer's power justifies insta heals.
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If you see a survivor gentapping, then you can simply vomit on him too, no need to vomit on the gen. The effect really doesnt stay long on the gen
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I think when you're recovering at the fountain, it reveals your aura with Nurse's Calling since I think it's considered a healing action. Which is a fair trade off, I just think it should take a little bit longer to heal yourself at the fountains.
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For the fountain heal, it either needs to take at least as long as cleansing a totem, or it needs to be instant without the heal.
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Tbh if any buffs should come her way I wouldn't mind if insted of timer her corrupt purge had stacks system. Survivors right now don't care if you have it since beiing broken is far stronger then dodging corrupt purge or outwaiting it. So giving killer more control over it might make them think twice.
Maybe each time you use corrupted fountain you gain 3-5 applications of corrupt purge. Just throwing ideas out there. I personally never liked managing timers like Shape has so this is based around what bugs me about her the most.
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The instaheals are fine.
I wonder if perhaps the survivors should be able to cleanse the fountains themselves? Say over 20 seconds?
It slows them down, and man is that corrupted purge OP.
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I personally deem any killer who's power is less effective than a standard hit then another hit to down as weak.
I trust in the devs to make The Plague work. I feel like they went down the annoying killer path but realised how bad the community felt about legion that they decided otherwise for this.
From first inpressions The Plague looks like she is only viable only when she vomits on one survivor until they are broken then down.
Any one saying it's the ptb so stop critisizing, I say to you is that the PTB is here to gauge how the dlc will cope on release. Criticism is needed or else the problems will just be embedded with the new content.
First step has to be addressing the full heal and cleanse you get from those fountains.
Just remember constructive criticism is really important for the devs right now. We have to be reasonable and transparent to get things right.
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She basically has an insta down ability. Just charge the vomit then use 115% movement speed to get really close to someone and 1 vomit will put them into the injured state and apply the unbroken effect pretty much immediately. AND it won’t give the survivor a speed boost. This gives you pretty much an insta down. At that point it’s not even worth going for the corrupted purge since hitting them with that does give them a speed boost.
It’s like getting right up to someone with the chainsaw. Only difference being that it’s almost impossible to miss with the vomit.
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Leatherface billy and trapper (caught in trap and hit down) have an instadown ability but they don't also give the survivor a fountain to heal up.
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I’m not saying shes OP or anything but tunneling the guy you just vomitted on is the most effective way to get kills as her right now.
They should have done something more interesting with her power. Maybe no instant heal from fountains and longer cleansing time but also no injuring from the vomit. Then just apply debuffs for action speed or movement speed over time.
This is just an idea but this would make the power at least a bit more interesting.
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This and the fact that survivors aren't forced to cure themselves because they can still loop you while fully plagued.
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You're right. They're not forced. They can choose to stay in a one down state, infecting others and making loud noises the rest of the game. But they wont.
Not every power has to be a hard counter to looping. Which is basically the only real escape strategy survivors have once spotted and chased.
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Cmon skillcheck when you wash your self? Lol.
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