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Give the Legion a counter!
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Your narrative is simple: Balance everything around the most stupid survivor.
Easy win for any decent survivor, that actually know what they are doing.
This is a common misconception among survivor mains, killer stuff always needs to get balanced around the best killer ("nerf BBQ! to stronk on Billy!") and best player ("I saw Tru3 4k without perks, nerf killer!") , but the same does not apply to survivor.
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Lol I haven't even mentioned balance. The only reason I responded to you was because you claimed 6 perks had no counter and then did nothing to back it up.
Moving on.
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You have been directly contradicted and THIS is your response? Then you have the nerve to call it a debate when you refuse to acknowledge any counterargument to your assertions? Wow. Unbelievable.
Anyway @brokedownpalace is right. There are counters. And everything should have some kind of counterplay. I love Legion, but Frank's Mixtape is overkill and doesn't suit Legion's intended playstyle. It makes chases too short for Legion's counterplay (splitting up and gen rushing) to have much of an impact.
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Legion is clearly a millennial. Insult him/her and they will stop hunting you to complain to HR. Get the gens done in the meantime and escape. :)
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I have to agree with @brokedownpalace, the game is in a good state and is much better than before. @Wolf74 If you're still consistently complaining about perks, gen-rush, pallets, and etc. then you really need to look at yourself for improvement instead of pointing at something else. Most of times, you'll lose a game because you made a mistake, not due to a poor game mechanic. Once you reflect on your mistakes, you'll become a better killer just like me and many others. I can promise you that.
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@GT_Legend2 are you on console? Specifically ps4. Bc I feel like I’ve faced you before, or you’ve been on my team.Your name looks familiar
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"You have been directly contradicted and THIS is your response? "
Actually… yes?
You can contradict anything… it that alone doesn't change it.
There are people contradicting that the earth is round.
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cant take anybody seriously who says that Selfcare is detrimental to survivors. Selfcare could get a 25% nerf to speed and would still be op.
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I play without self care often lately, sometimes without even a medkit. It’s faster to have others heal you. Plus medkits are faster and can be found in chests. If anything self care is the weakest of the healing variety. The thing about not bringing either is you have to depend on your team, or hope nobody has already searched the chest and took the items by the time you need them if nobody is near. Plus chest items are usually a heal, heal and half max without bringing some kind of chest perk. Self care really isn’t op, and it takes for effin ever(it feels like) against killers running anti heal perks.
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Can't take anybody seriously who thinks a perk is op despite the fact it gives you 32 seconds to find and down survivors without having to worry about the injured survivor. Selfcare would be "still be op" even with an additional -25% ? That's 40 seconds total. Damn, how long do you need to find and down someone? Are you THAT bad at the game?
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Dude, seriously? You are really desperate in defending SC, huh?
Even the unlimited, self sufficient use of SC is op AND it is way to fast.
1 survivor using SC = 1 survivor not doing objectives for 32 seconds
1 survivor getting healed by another = 2 survivor not doing objectives for 16 seconds
And you still can't see the issue with SC?
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Yes give the legion a counter with the daily and total DCs
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Well I can't remember when I lost a killer game last time so perhaps it's a YOU problem if you lose over something like Selfcare. People rarely ever use it in my games as it takes too long. Most of the time I see adrenaline and rush builds instead which is pretty useless as I win at 5 or 4 unrepaired gens in most of my games - which is why I don't see much of a problem with any survivor perk whatsoever. Some survivor perks are broken like the current decisive strike but that's about it.
And yes, I can post all of my games to back it up. Playing killer is a complete joke these days unless you go against a toxic SWF team yet people moan about survivors who heal themselves instead of rushing gens injured.
In fact I can post a game from yesterday where one single gen popped because an injured survivor repaired it just before I was about to check that gen. If that survivor had healed himself instead it would have been another 5 gen game for me.
Therefore Selfcare would have hurt them in this specific game no matter how you put it. That one gen was finished because he rushed it injured - simple fact. And that's not the first time I saw survivors rushing gens injured. Therefore I want them to heal themselves. Gives me more time to keep the momentum.
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So you don't play against Self-Care, and despite mathematical proof to the contrary, you think it doesn't work in the survivors' favor?
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Remove Selfcare - see what happens. Everyone will just rush gens with:
- Resilience
- Prove Thyself
- Bond
- Adrenaline
Will be fun times when gens pop even quicker because survivors have no self care OR a much faster medpack instead.
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You don't need to remove SC, survivors are already rushing generators because of the no-heal meta. Usually Iron Will and Dead Hard are the keys perks that makes this meta work.
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Focus on the matter at hand. How can you say whether or not Self-Care is detrimental to the survivors if you don't even play against it? Hell, how can you say whether or not Self-Care is detrimental to the survivors if you play the Hillbilly and exclusively use the chainsaw (meaning that survivors are rarely ever injured against you, and are usually either dying or hooked)?
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90% of all skill checks are successful. Another edge case.
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What is this "no heal meta" people are talking about?
I have NEVER seen that.
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Holy f*ck legion is the definition of counters, they are full of counters and you dont even notice (God dammit)
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Yeah. It's really frustrating how people will ignore any counters that take place outside of the chase.
Here's your counter: don't get noticed. It's not hard against a short killer like legion. Split up. Gen rush. Drop pallets on their head if you do get spotted.
Not every counter needs to be in the chase. The chase is too big of a part of DbD and I'm happy the devs are trying to pull the game away from the chase.
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Legion will always win 1v1. Legion will always lose 4v1. Gen rush 4 gens simultaneously. Legion gets crushed.
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"Legion will always win 1v1. Legion will always lose 4v1. Gen rush 4 gens simultaneously. Legion gets crushed."
Every killer should win 1v1.
And the rest ist true for every killer.
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But sadly they don't. Survivors feel like if you can't go toe to toe with the killer by yourself for minutes at a time, they "have no counter"
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I feel like people who talk about Legion (good or bad) do so knowing that this will happen. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, since I made a post too. But Entity damn. Where is my tea?
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You're right about him needing a counter, but only if he is buffed first
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