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Thoughts about the Ash Perks...
What we all thinking about the leaked Ash perks? Of course, first thing you think is the next chapter will be about Evil Dead. Obviously, Ash would be the survivor, and the cabin in the woods would probably be the map, maybe located in Backwater Swamp or even Red Forest (although after the Temple, that one's unlikely).
But what would the Killer be? An original Deadite killer could be interesting, but there's also Evil Ash, or even Deadite Linda. Maybe they'll use something from Ash vs Evil Dead like Eligos?
There is of course the possibility we're ONLY getting Ash as a singular survivor. Worked for Leatherface. If they go down that route, it'd be cool if we got some Deadite cosmetics for current survivors/killers. In the same way you had to sacrifice 25 Jakes, Claudettes, Megs, and Dwights for exclusive Leatherface...faces, maybe you have to save a certain amount of survivors as Ash to unlock Deadite cosmetics? That or they'll just bundle them in with Ash as extra DLC.
Speaking of cosmetics, licenced characters are very lacking in that department, save for the bloody skins when you prestige (which I'm DEFINITELY getting for Ash because duh!). How cool would it be if we got a young Ash skin, chainsaw-arm Ash, older Ash, etc. Or at the very least, instead of the typical red bloody skins, he gets a black Deadite blood skin!
What do you folks reckon? Seems a bit crazy that they've already got the perks ready for Ash 2 months before the next chapter, and even crazier that they've been leaked already, so I'm guessing it's likely a single character rather than an entire chapter. But hey. This is Dead by Daylight after all!
Pretty groovy job so far!
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I don't believe there will be a killer at all. I feel pretty confident that it's a stand alone survivor similar to Bill.
In terms of his perks, I think MoM and Flip Flop are extremely strong. In my opinion too strong. These are future meta perks and need to be toned down some. MoM shouldn't even exist. I feel like the devs should have learned their lesson about second chance perks by now and we need to lean away from these types of things. They are not healthy for the game.
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An OG/OC Deadite, Ruby from the show since the chapter is based on ED2/AVED, or one of the two versions of Evil Ash are my thoughts.
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MoM is incredibly strong, flip flop is strong if you let it be and buckle up is weak.
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Was it actually confirmed that Evil Dead characters will be added to DbD? I missed that announcement. I thought it was speculation.
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2 of them are ok, MoM is just another broken crutch.
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Not been confirmed by devs but it's almost certainly going to happen. Perks for Ashley J Williams were accidentally leaked in Kill Your Friends on PS4 and (I think) Xbox in the Demise of the Faithful update. The fact they're for an Ashley J Williams, the perk icons, the quotes. All but confirm Ash is coming.
Whether he's part of a chapter or just standalone like Leatherface and Bill remains to be seen, though.
Got some screenshots of the perks from my own PS4 account just to prove it. Don't have to look at them if you don't want to in case you want to go in blind. But I thought I'd attach them just so there's proof :)
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I actually don't think MoM is THAT bad. True, you're right about second chance perks and it is a pretty damn strong perk despite the caveats. But look at it this way; it takes 3 hits from a basic attack to activate it (which is probably 4 and 5 hits at tiers 1 and 2), so that means hatchets, chainsaws, traps, corrupt purge vomit, none of that will count. Plus the killer gets to see your aura when you heal after the "fake hit" so it's got a lot of downsides to it alongside just the one benefit. Perhaps if they made it so the killer sees your aura regardless of distance, it would be a little more balanced.
The other 2 are just OK. Flip-Flop isn't a terrible perk by any means, but it is entirely dependent on the killer slugging you. If not, it's almost useless.
Buckle Up, I rather like the sound of. But again, it's dependent on how good or bad other survivors are, and whether they're slugged or not. Still, I can see myself using that one a fair bit.
They could be tweaked by the time they're officially out though 👍
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I'd be happy with any of those! But the idea of Eligos possessing survivors somehow and posing as them does actually intrigue me a little.
Chances are it'll just be a standalone Ash. But if it's a whole Ash vs/Evil Dead chapter, I certainly won't complain!
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Speaking about tier 1 and 2 of a perk is pointless. We are talking about actually competent survivors here, not rank 20's. Mentioning a few exceptions like hatchets, chainsaws, or vomit doesn't really make sense either. Firstly, that's only a few exception killers. Secondly, even with them the chances of still never getting 3 M1 hits is quite low. If a survivor is running this perk 90% it WILL be activating at some point. It activating is essentially and even better than hitting an old DS on your back and clearly that was a problem, hence why it got altered. Lastly, aura reading as a downside is near meaningless. Survivors at rank 1 in this game do not care about being found because pallets and loops are overly strong. That is hardly a downside to care about. Keep in mind as well, all 4 survivors can run this. That's 4 more second chances in the match and we now how that went with DS. The killer just doesn't have the time to eat 4 of those in a match and still do well.
Flip Flop while not gamebreaking like MoM it is still too strong imo. In this current meta killers are FORCED to slug if we want to avoid the hatch, we have no other option. Combine this with Boil Over and there's quite a high chance you actually won't be making it to a hook especially since they've probably crawled to the corner of the map. This isn't even mentioning if they throw on another of the other anti-slug perks with it. Any time slugging isn't coming into play in that match, you're probably already winning to begin with so it's irrelevant anyway.
Buckle Up is fine, I have no issues with it.
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@Blueberry In fairness, those are some really good points. I forget how hard it is against survivors who know what they're doing. I'm sure (or at least, I hope) they'll be tweaked before release so they're somewhat more balanced.
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It is early and long before they will get released but that's the point of us talking about them early. If no one had any issues with them, then they'd probably just be released as is. These posts are good for pointing these things out to the devs.
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Mom is fine. The paranoid theory crafters are in shambles because they see the benefits but not the 600 downsides it has
Flip flop is more of a problem
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We just have way, way more hours into this game and have a better understanding of perk potential than the average player. Not to mention most people disagreeing don't even play at high ranks to really understand what we are talking about.
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lol pretty much everyone agrees MoM is broken. It has no downsides.
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I do play at high ranks.
Using this perk is like putting yourself onto broken status. If you heal you will be seen until you're downed again; it can only be used once, is an obsession perk, and the survivor has no control over it, unlike decisive. the chances of this being good in the end game are 0
Not being able to take another hit is fine for the downsides it has
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What??? Are you kidding?
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This is such incorrect information. It's nothing like the broken status whatsoever. Showing your aura to the killer means nothing in the current meta we are in. I guess you think Freddy is strong too then? Even if old DS had no control over when it went off it would STILL be broken. Hence why this is broken. It doesn't matter when you're getting this off it is still going to effect a lot on a survivor that's even slightly competent. It's downsides are insignificant and effect near nothing.
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True that, bud. Just have to hope they actually take it into account and edit accordingly. Time will tell, I guess!
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You do realize that people will 99% the heal and then finish it when you see them right?
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Let me just say having loved ED for so long I can't express how excited I am for this chapter, yes this chapter.
To me just getting the license for evil dead would be a waste of money and potential for DBDs growth if they dudnt make a killer for the chapter. Let me explain-
So at the VGAs the Dev's said they were going to be adding dedicated servers , so a great way to promote the release of the servers would be with an iconic chapter like Evil Dead.
It would bring in more new people and people who already love the series and horror movies.
Now for the killer theory-
Since the license for the evil dead chapter is from Ash Vs Evil dead chances are it might be *
-Evil Ruby
-Evil Ash (which I would love)
-Baal- a demon who can create paranoia, seduce, and mind control.
-Ash's sister Deadite Cheryl
-Or his Gf Deadite Linda
-Or just a random Deadite
Either way my point is you can't have Ash without some sort of Deadite.
Cosmetics*
I would really love if we could unlock different Ash cosmetics like Young Ash, Older Ash, Army of Darkness ash etc
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If they do decide to have a killer, I would find it very cool if they took a Legion approach and have different Deadites to pick from since there is not main Deadite.
As for the perks, Flip Flop and Mettle of Man seem very interesting and good. As for the other one, not so much. I tested out Flip Flop and not only does it transfer recovery progress, but they also increased the wiggle speed which is very interesting and probably a bug. I would pair that perk alongside Boil Over and hope that the killer doesnt pick me up right away.
Anyways, I hope that if it is a solo survivor that it doesn't take away a spot for a DLC and instead is something released during the mid chapter patch
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I'm 100% that the devs created the MoM as the counter to the legion. We'll see how it will be looks like in the gameplay.
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I really hope it's not just a survivor with no killer. It would seem kind of like a ripoff if they made us wait the same amount of time for a new chapter but only release one character rather than 2. On the other hand if they released him alone but also kept going with the chapters at a normal rate then I'm all for it
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@ItsYourBoyGuzma Oh, I'd love a chapter dedicated to Evil Dead. But that doesn't rule out the possibility of it being just Ash. They released Bill and Leatherface by themselves before and they're licenced so there is precedent.
But fingers crossed for a full chapter! I feel like the killer would likely be a Deadite, seeing as they've said in the past all killers are (or were) human. A demon like Baal would probably be pushing it, but I do like the idea of the killer possessing survivors and causing problems for them.
Not holding my breath for many Ash cosmetics but I'm still hoping for some!
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@Jacoby2041 I would think if it's only Ash, he'd be released within the next month at most. Doubt they'd wait the standard 2 months only to release just one new survivor.
Got my fingers crossed for April! If not, May for a whole Evil Dead chapter! 😁
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Yeah I might go and find the Necronomicon myself and go back in time and force the Dev's to make this chapter with a Deadite killer if it ends being a paragraph 📕
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