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Thanks for killing the matchmaking... Again

Khalednazari
Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433
edited March 2019 in General Discussions


UPDATE : Matchmaking has been reverted again. I will test it out in some time and share my experience. Do share yours too.


I don't think I need to add any details to this. It wasn't a wise call to revert the new matchmaking system when it did work on the PS4. You could have surely updated it in the future patches instead of just reverting to the old system. Looks like another long hiatus for me. Very disappointed :/

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  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    They put the new one back yesterday after they finally clued into separating everyone up into regions.

    It took them over 3 months to come up with that idea, so don't expect to much over the next few months.


    Expect the dedicated servers to create a complete ######### show for a month while they fix it when it is still live.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    Whatever they've updated it to, it's worse than before.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    This saddens me. I love this game, but how can one continue loving it when you are just staring at the waiting logo for 30 minutes.

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    What role/rank are you playing on PS4 that it takes you 30 minutes to get a lobby, if I may ask?

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433
    edited March 2019
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    Yes, what role, rank, region and time are you playing?

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    I am playing right now. The estimated wait time starts at 5 minutes. It goes down to one minute with time and then jumps back to 3 or 4 minutes. It goes on in a loop, until I actually find a match with a high ping. Is this intended? Starting at 5 minutes?

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    What's the point of this game when you cannot play?

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    @Khalednazari It sounds weird that your timer goes into a loop. I'm afraid I don't know if this is a bug.

    Maybe your region is the "problem". Solo surv on rank 11 by itself shouldn't have any problems finding matches.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433


    Tired of the matchmaking before, I quit. I got back with the plague, and the new matchmaking. Wait time was under 30 seconds, with green and yellow ping lobbies 90% of the times. I ask, what's changed in the last 3 days? Definitely not my region. I am playing in the same country.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506

    Odd, since yesterday I've been back to 2-5min games around my rank.

    That sucks =[.

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    Like three days ago, the devs went back to the old matchmaking. Yesterday, the devs reactivated the new matchmaking, but this time with a region lock.

    So I think your region is the reason for the long waiting times.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    @Carpemortum It's terrible. I don't wish to quit playing again, but I can't play with this current matchmaking either. I just hope it's not the final nail in the coffin for me with this game. I know the devs are hardworking, but I really did wait for it to get better.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506

    @Khalednazari I understand. When they reverted to the old system I was in your shoes. 45 mins for a bad game, just to see they're floundering in how to fix the issues they have. I love the game and dont want to quit, but I completely get where you're coming from.

    I'm genuinely sorry the MM has screwed you amd others over again. I thought they fixed more issues and not just kept turning a switch.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    Well, the region lock is pathetic then. It needs to go. Not everybody comes to forums to talk about these issues. But if someone does, it means it represents all those unheard voices. I really hope something is getting done about this.

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    @NoShinyPony

    Doesn't matter what rank or system they are on anymore. Technically speaking anyways.

    The impression I was given, was that they wanted to remove "edge" cases of people not getting into lobbies or have huge wait times.

    Having someone waiting 30 minutes means they were unable to solve this issue.

    It means the Devs have zero ability to identify and isolate these "edge" cases. Because of this, the rest of us players have to suffer.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    I agree with this. We need more accountability than just them throwing the updates at us.

  • Chaos_Theory
    Chaos_Theory Member Posts: 6

    I'm in India too. Killer main. I'm also facing long wait times, though sometimes I get paired quickly. Things were fine until the plague came... Now the matchmaking is plagued. I hope they fix this soon. I also emailed them regarding the same. They said they'll get back to me

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    I already waited 2 to 3 months for them to improve it, and the final product right now is worse.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433


    Link to the last thread 👆 I made before this one. Look at the date. I ask, what's changed? What's solved?

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    @TheBean Correct. The new matchmaking was supposed to make it so that everybody would get lobbies in few minutes, at the expense of people not getting matched with well fitting ranks anymore. It shouldn't be that somebody has to wait half an hour.

  • Aceonfire
    Aceonfire Member Posts: 304

    For the love of everything just suspend Ranks and the Matchmaking already.


    Everyone is used to get a survivor that SHOULD be rank 20 on their team. Trying to get people of the same rank together at this point is dumb. Play SWF or roll the dice for a good team.


    Limiting by region is so stupid. Limit it by response time to the killer.


    Take Rank and Matchmaking offline, fix them on your time and burden, then bring them back once they are actually worth a damn.


    !!!

  • NoShinyPony
    NoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    @Aceonfire Region lock makes a lot of sense. The majority of people doesn't want to play matches with 400 ping.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433
    edited March 2019

    @Aceonfire

    I don't think that's what they are aiming for. They need to relook at parameters of matchmaking. I personally wouldn't mind what rank I am playing against, since rank doesn't equal to skills. These would be secondary, my primary concern is to get into a lobby as fast as possible. Even if its a bad ping lobby, I can just leave lobby to join another quickly.

  • Matcuskilgannon
    Matcuskilgannon Member Posts: 38

    PS4 search times are pretty brutal to be honest.


    I play with one friend under SWF (NA - East Coast) and unless it's prime time the wait is easily 10min+.

  • Aceonfire
    Aceonfire Member Posts: 304
    edited March 2019

    I don't want to play a killer with 150 ping! I'm east coast on gigabit fiber and 90 percent of my matches are against 175+ killers.

    You guys missed my point. Region, Country, Hemisphere, who gives a #########. The response time to the killer is all that matters. I have no problem going against a 125 or so killer in the midwest, southwest, or in a few cases west coast where pings and connection are perfectly playable.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    edited March 2019

    I am playing right now too, lobbies in less than a minute (EU killer btw)

  • BoxingRouge
    BoxingRouge Member Posts: 606

    When they reverted back to the old matchmaking me and my friends were getting lobbies instantly even solo playing... Now it’s back to dead by matchmaking. (Rank 3)

  • Gamzello
    Gamzello Member Posts: 828

    So after waiting for a match forever!! I get in a match getting camped and moried right after by a rank 2 killer while I was like 8 ranks away from him JHGDGHBD


    Match making is not broken at all! How could you ever say that? Don’t you like waiting for like 30 minutes for a game LOL!

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433
    edited March 2019

    @Gamzello If that's what they've aimed to achieve, they haven't failed us.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    @Yorke93 I am not even excited for the new survivor. The only difference it will make that, now, instead of staring at my Claudette or Nea, I'd be staring at Ash Williams for 30 minutes.

  • Kilmeran
    Kilmeran Member Posts: 3,142
    edited March 2019

    @Yorke93: Please bear in mind that I am not trolling you. I am honestly curious. With you guys having such insane wait times to play survivor, and then all the myriad other issues you have on that side right now, why does Ash coming out in a couple of days make a difference for you?

    His release isn't going to fix the ongoing issues. Instead, you're going to spend money on him and pretty much remain where you are now as far as matches and wait times.

    I'm asking because as much as I enjoy DbD, this fiasco has gone on long enough. I'm 46 and have been an Evil Dead fan since the original film released way back in 1981. Hell, I got to meet and talk with Bruce several times many years ago when working on a different Evil Dead license. And I refuse to purchase this DLC (or any subsequent releases) until Behavior fixes this mess.

    At this point, the only thing that might light a fire under them is hitting them in the pocket.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    I agree with @Kilmeran. A lot of us have waited enough. I'm not going to purchase any DLCs either until they fix their matchmaking. I don't know ranting here will make a difference, but I atleast hope that the devs are aware of the mess it's playerbase is in. Cannot get into matches, cannot play.

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320
    edited March 2019

    @Aceonfire

    The issue with measuring the latency between two players might take too long to be more efficient than separating up players based on region before the actual MM takes place.

    Your client can provide all the region info you need, then join the MM and let it know all the details.

    If you were to say, take a killer.. then grab 4 random survivor players.. then measure their latency between each other... then remove those who are too far away.. then grab a couple replacements and then measure them against everyone else... rinse and repeat this till you find a match....

    Now do that 100 times for the 100 killers who just readied up a few minutes ago... Cause there is gonna be about another 100 killers readying up in another few minutes.

    Do you think that sounds like a fast match making system?

    The Devs can figure out how to measure this latency without using a PING tool, but you try to PING 4 other people and tell me how efficient that would be to do that 16 times per lobby you want to create.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    Makes sense @TheBean

  • Aceonfire
    Aceonfire Member Posts: 304
    edited March 2019

    even the forum is broken and garbage.


    rip my response good lord.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433
    edited March 2019

    Daily reminder. I will bump this thread everyday until they fix it.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    Or until someone from the dev team responds to what's really going on...

  • JoannaVO
    JoannaVO Member Posts: 750

    A good product always takes multiple tries, where slight improvements come and by the knowledge and feedback they gain over the failed systems they can create a matchmaking system in the near future that will actually stick around for years. Just be patient and don't expect perfection in one try.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    How about waiting 3 months for them to fix it? And the end result is worse than what it was before? I have done my part, all I am asking for is accountability and acknowledgement of the issue.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433
    edited March 2019

    So I just came across their new post on twitter, in which they've confirmed that they've reverted the matchmaking again (and again?). I'll play in a few hours and share my experience on whether it did make any difference. Meanwhile, fingers crossed 🤞


  • BoxingRouge
    BoxingRouge Member Posts: 606

    Yeah I’m back to instant lobbies again, for now...

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    It's still beyond broken for me.


    How do you compare between bad & worse?

  • TheBean
    TheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    @JoannaVO Thats funny about waiting for a good product.


    You know... I already waited for a good product. The last match making system.

  • JoannaVO
    JoannaVO Member Posts: 750

    @TheBean You make it sound as if everything they try to develop is horrendous, which it's not. I'm quite sure that eventually they are able to come with a matchmaking system that is pleasant for everybody.

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433

    Matchmaking is still broken.