How about extra rewards above level 100 account?
Since i've discovered that we got nothing above level 100 ( sure 1 pt devotion ), how about bring more rewards to people who have play so high or distinguished themselves during the season?
Possible opinions:
- rewards during the season: which means, if u play a lot ( idk 200-300 hrs maybe that's start ) u can get a standard prize.
- rewards like rituals payin by shards and not Bp: that's means, doing so hard ( compared to ritual obviusly ) a specific objectives, with enough time.
- remove or give rewards during the seasons: if u play nice with teammates during the trial, if u help them, if u are a nice killer then u will be rewarded, otherwise u lose all progress for this objectives, also i mean all behaviour meta game that ruin the game like DC, High ping, harassment chat and other things.
Any thoughts?
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Do you still earn shards above lvl 100 ? If so your reward is that you can buy most of the outfits in the store that's quite a reward !
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@Charly said:
Do you still earn shards above lvl 100 ? If so your reward is that you can buy most of the outfits in the store that's quite a reward !Sure, like as if nothing had happened, resume from the first level up to 100 and then take a point. Same rewards, not extra.
level 100 make you gain 25.270 Shards, if u haven't spent anything. I've just unlock the 2 part of new content. Still boring as i said, because needs more rewards to get skins or other content.
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Get all outifts ( single or full items ) costs like 500k Shards and more, if we think there will be more skins coming up.
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i just hope that the devs reset the season after a certain time then at least we could get shards again
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@weirdkid5 said:
Locks said:i just hope that the devs reset the season after a certain time then at least we could get shards again
Player level doesnt reset. You keep getting shards after level 100. Devotion is just "prestige" except you dont lose anything.
player level reset, and u got a devotion's point, like this image
And you keep get a same rewards like a first time, but need more rewards for players above level 100
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@Skairipa said:
@weirdkid5 said:
Locks said:i just hope that the devs reset the season after a certain time then at least we could get shards again
Player level doesnt reset. You keep getting shards after level 100. Devotion is just "prestige" except you dont lose anything.
player level reset, and u got a devotion's point, like this image
And you keep get a same rewards like a first time, but need more rewards for players above level 100
Oooooh look at that fancy green number! Reason enough to pour 300+ hours into the game
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UP: Any thoughts guys?
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The issue is that once you reset after hitting 100 the next level on the way up you still get the same rewards as if you'd been starting from scratch.
so for example if at devotion 0 level 30 gave you 200 iridescent shards you'd get the exact same for hitting devotion level 1 level 30, there's no bonus to being a higher devotion level. For example here you see devotion 1 and level 79 yet I'll get the same shards at this level as at devotion 0 level 79.
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It should give you a max amount of shards you can get, no devotion 300 max, devotion 1, 310 max to 400 (devotion 10)
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@powerbats said:
The issue is that once you reset after hitting 100 the next level on the way up you still get the same rewards as if you'd been starting from scratch.so for example if at devotion 0 level 30 gave you 200 iridescent shards you'd get the exact same for hitting devotion level 1 level 30, there's no bonus to being a higher devotion level. For example here you see devotion 1 and level 79 yet I'll get the same shards at this level as at devotion 0 level 79.
so you're saying that you need an extra after passing the devotions. Sure there is same rewards, they could improve this aspect.
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@Skairipa said:
@powerbats said:
The issue is that once you reset after hitting 100 the next level on the way up you still get the same rewards as if you'd been starting from scratch.so for example if at devotion 0 level 30 gave you 200 iridescent shards you'd get the exact same for hitting devotion level 1 level 30, there's no bonus to being a higher devotion level. For example here you see devotion 1 and level 79 yet I'll get the same shards at this level as at devotion 0 level 79.
so you're saying that you need an extra after passing the devotions. Sure there is same rewards, they could improve this aspect.
Yes and the devs have agreed this is something they want to improve on, I don't think think they expected people to level so quickly. Most of the player base is probably just now getting to level 40ish or so. While those of us with no lives, retired are up there.
I'm sure they'll be able to get it to where it's rewarding for all levels of playtime since it seems it'd be easier than fixing some of the gameplay issues.
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It's a new system, i believe it's going to get updated but still not a priority, balance is needed more
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@FinLadd said:
Skairipa said:so i mean all behaviour meta game that ruin the game like DC, High ping, harassment chat and other things.
Any thoughts?
You know that everyone do not have A stable connection so You can't just assume that every player with High ping do it on purposeI know that not everyone has a sufficient connection to manage a host, which is why there should be an algorithm that knows how to hit those who "deliberately" increase the ping to make the game of guests (survivors) very bad, with the use of programs third-party (prohibited by regulation). Add this algorithm, add that if you do not have a suitable ping you do NOT have to host games, the problem would be solved.
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@Maxi605 said:
It's a new system, i believe it's going to get updated but still not a priority, balance is needed moreIt is a new system, i can assure u, both to reward the player for the time spent in the game, and to find out who after a few hours has legacies, prestiges and other things that should not have if not after at least a thousand hours.
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This is a more moderate version. But give us something to look forward to. There is nothing.
There's no point playing your game in long term. You don't give anything in turn.When you reach the 1st devotion - entity gives you 50 000 BP,
for the 2nd devotion - 25 000 BP,
for the 3rd devotion - 50 000 BP,
for the 4th devotion - 75 000 BP,
for the 5th devotion - 100 000 BP,
for the 6th devotion - 125 000 BP
for the 7th devotion - 150 000 BP,
for the 8th devotion - 175 000 BP,
for the 9th devotion - 200 000 BP,
for the 10th devotion - 225 000 BP,
for the 11th devotion - 250 000 BP,
for the 12th devotion - 275 000 BP,
for the 13th devotion - 300 000 BP,
for the 14th devotion - 325 000 BP,
for the 15th devotion - 350 000 BP,
for the 16th devotion - 375 000 BP,
for the 17th devotion - 400 000 BP
for the 18th devotion - 425 000 BP,
for the 19th devotion - 450 000 BP,
for the 20th devotion - 475 000 BP,
for the 21th devotion - 500 000 BP,
for the 22th devotion - 525 000 BP,
for the 23th devotion - 550 000 BP,
etc. up to a million.2 -
This is a more moderate version. But give us something to look forward to. There is nothing.
There's no point playing your game in long term. You don't give anything in turn.When you reach the 1st devotion - entity gives you 50 000 BP,
for the 2nd devotion - 25 000 BP,
for the 3rd devotion - 50 000 BP,
for the 4th devotion - 75 000 BP,
for the 5th devotion - 100 000 BP,
for the 6th devotion - 125 000 BP
for the 7th devotion - 150 000 BP,
for the 8th devotion - 175 000 BP,
for the 9th devotion - 200 000 BP,
for the 10th devotion - 225 000 BP,
for the 11th devotion - 250 000 BP,
for the 12th devotion - 275 000 BP,
for the 13th devotion - 300 000 BP,
for the 14th devotion - 325 000 BP,
for the 15th devotion - 350 000 BP,
for the 16th devotion - 375 000 BP,
for the 17th devotion - 400 000 BP
for the 18th devotion - 425 000 BP,
for the 19th devotion - 450 000 BP,
for the 20th devotion - 475 000 BP,
for the 21th devotion - 500 000 BP,
for the 22th devotion - 525 000 BP,
for the 23th devotion - 550 000 BP,
etc. up to a million.1 -
This is a more moderate version. But give us something to look forward to. There is nothing.
There's no point playing your game in long term. You don't give anything in turn.When you reach the 1st devotion - entity gives you 25 000 BP,
for the 2nd devotion - 50 000 BP,
for the 3rd devotion - 75 000 BP,
for the 4th devotion - 100 000 BP,
for the 5th devotion - 125 000 BP
for the 6th devotion - 150 000 BP,
for the 7th devotion - 175 000 BP,
for the 8th devotion - 200 000 BP,
for the 9th devotion - 225 000 BP,
for the 10th devotion - 250 000 BP,
for the 11th devotion - 275 000 BP,
for the 12th devotion - 300 000 BP,
for the 13th devotion - 325 000 BP,
for the 14th devotion - 350 000 BP,
for the 15th devotion - 375 000 BP,
for the 16th devotion - 400 000 BP
for the 17th devotion - 425 000 BP,
for the 18th devotion - 450 000 BP,
for the 19th devotion - 475 000 BP,
for the 20th devotion - 500 000 BP,
for the 21st devotion - 525 000 BP,
for the 22nd devotion - 550 000 BP,
etc. up to a million.
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@powerbats said:
@Vadim239 The issue with so much bp is you introduce a system where BP really means nothing at that point because eventually you'll have nothing to spend it on if you're playing.Yeah right. So much BP. omg. Are you serious? Do you have all your characters with 3rd prestige and having all the countless perks? Even the killers? I don't think so. Do you know how much time does it take to get Devotion 1??? And That's only 25 000. That is a huuuuuuuge number. 25K. You'll soon have nothing to spend it on. Ridiculous!
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@Vadim239 said:
@powerbats said:
@Vadim239 The issue with so much bp is you introduce a system where BP really means nothing at that point because eventually you'll have nothing to spend it on if you're playing.Yeah right. So much BP. omg. Are you serious? Do you have all your characters with 3rd prestige and having all the countless perks? Even the killers? I don't think so. Do you know how much time does it take to get Devotion 1??? And That's only 25 000. That is a huuuuuuuge number. 25K. You'll soon have nothing to spend it on. Ridiculous!
You just threw any chance at people agreeing you out of the water with that nonsense. I'm referring to the overall community where many people already have EVERY character P3'd. There's countless threads from people asking about earning shards or even Aurics because they reave have nothing to spend that bp on.
So instead of trying to be all dramatic and make yourself look silly why not actually take the constructive criticism to heart. If I'd suggested Auric Cells or shards and gotten feedback I'd have taken that feedback and Improved my idea.
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@powerbats said:
You just threw any chance at people agreeing you out of the water with that nonsense. I'm referring to the overall community where many people already have EVERY character P3'd. There's countless threads from people asking about earning shards or even Aurics because they reave have nothing to spend that bp on.So instead of trying to be all dramatic and make yourself look silly why not actually take the constructive criticism to heart. If I'd suggested Auric Cells or shards and gotten feedback I'd have taken that feedback and Improved my idea.
I'm not being drammatic.
- First of all, I still think 25 000 BP per devotion level is not a big deal. But it is a good bonus.
Second of all, Even if you have all the characters 3rd prestiged, you still need addons, items, offerings etc.
Don't tell me there's nothing to spend this tiny amount of BPs on.Finally, Do you think Devs will give you auric cells for devotion?? That's never gonna happen. And I don't think they'll give any more shards for that as well.
I'm ready to improve my idea, but what is wrong about it? What disadvantage? And sorry but I don't agree that
25 000 BP per 100 levels is too much!!! Try and earn at least 3rd devotion and learn how long it takes to do it.0 -
@powerbats said:
You just threw any chance at people agreeing you out of the water with that nonsense. I'm referring to the overall community where many people already have EVERY character P3'd. There's countless threads from people asking about earning shards or even Aurics because they reave have nothing to spend that bp on.So instead of trying to be all dramatic and make yourself look silly why not actually take the constructive criticism to heart. If I'd suggested Auric Cells or shards and gotten feedback I'd have taken that feedback and Improved my idea.
I'm not being drammatic at all.
First of all, I still think that 25 000 BP is not too much for 100 levels (1 devotion).Second of all, Even if you have all your characters 3rd prestiged, you still need all the perks, items, offerings addons etc. 25 000 is like 4-5 good addons. Is it really too much??
And Finally, I highly doubt they will ever give auric cells for many people. Especially for devotion. I even doubt they'll give shards, but that's just my opinion. I can suggest the same idea but with shards if you want. But I think BP is more important than shards.
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ALTERNATIVE IDEA
When you reach the 1st devotion - entity gives you 100 shards,
for the 2nd devotion - 200 shards
for the 3rd devotion - 300 shards,
for the 4th devotion - 400 shards,
for the 5th devotion - 500 shards
for the 6th devotion - 600 shards,
for the 7th devotion - 700 shards,
for the 8th devotion - 800 shards
for the 9th devotion - 900 shards,
for the 10th devotion - 1000 shards
for the 11th devotion -1100 shards,
for the 12th devotion - 1200 shards,
for the 13th devotion - 1300 shards,
for the 14th devotion - 1400 shards,
for the 15th devotion - 1500 shards,
for the 16th devotion - 1600 shards
for the 17th devotion - 1700 shards,
for the 18th devotion - 1800 shards,
for the 19th devotion - 1900 shards,
for the 20th devotion - 2000 shards
for the 21st devotion - 2100 shards,
for the 22nd devotion - 2200 shards,
etc.
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@Vadim239 said:
ALTERNATIVE IDEA
When you reach the 1st devotion - entity gives you 100 shards,
for the 2nd devotion - 200 shards
for the 3rd devotion - 300 shards,
for the 4th devotion - 400 shards,
for the 5th devotion - 500 shards
for the 6th devotion - 600 shards,
for the 7th devotion - 700 shards,
for the 8th devotion - 800 shards
for the 9th devotion - 900 shards,
for the 10th devotion - 1000 shards
for the 11th devotion -1100 shards,
for the 12th devotion - 1200 shards,
for the 13th devotion - 1300 shards,
for the 14th devotion - 1400 shards,
for the 15th devotion - 1500 shards,
for the 16th devotion - 1600 shards
for the 17th devotion - 1700 shards,
for the 18th devotion - 1800 shards,
for the 19th devotion - 1900 shards,
for the 20th devotion - 2000 shards
for the 21st devotion - 2100 shards,
for the 22nd devotion - 2200 shards,
etc.
PLEASE VOTE IF YOU AGREEThis is better since that way earning BP doesn't feel so meaningless since you get some from devotion levels already.
The shard counts might be a bit high unless you're saying that's per overall level instead of how it is currently where each level within the main level gives shards. It currently gives 300 shards each time you level within a level.
For example I'm currently Devotion 4 level 12 that means I've earned at 300 shards per level a total of 121,200 Iridescent shards if my maths correct.
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@powerbats said:
This is better since that way earning BP doesn't feel so meaningless since you get some from devotion levels already.The shard counts might be a bit high unless you're saying that's per overall level instead of how it is currently where each level within the main level gives shards. It currently gives 300 shards each time you level within a level.
For example I'm currently Devotion 4 level 12 that means I've earned at 300 shards per level a total of 121,200 Iridescent shards if my maths correct.
Yeah. This way people could earn Shards a bit faster. If they play this game more, and have a bigger devotion level
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This is still very slow. What about this?
ALTERNATIVE IDEA
When you reach the 1st devotion - entity gives you 300 shards,
for the 2nd devotion - 500 shards
for the 3rd devotion - 700 shards,
for the 4th devotion - 900 shards,
for the 5th devotion - 1100 shards
for the 6th devotion - 1300 shards,
for the 7th devotion - 1500 shards,
for the 8th devotion - 1700 shards
for the 9th devotion - 1900 shards,
for the 10th devotion - 2100 shards
for the 11th devotion -2300 shards,
for the 12th devotion - 2500 shards,
for the 13th devotion - 2700 shards,
for the 14th devotion - 2900 shards,
for the 15th devotion - 3100 shards,
for the 16th devotion - 3300 shards
for the 17th devotion - 3500 shards,
for the 18th devotion - 3700 shards,
for the 19th devotion - 3900 shards,
for the 20th devotion - 4100 shards
for the 21st devotion - 4300 shards,
for the 22nd devotion - 4500 shards,
etc.
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It'd be interesting to break this down comparatively to see how it breaks down overall using my numbers from what i've gotten so far compared to say yours going up.
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I think Devotion should give a fair bonus in Shards per every new level you reach.
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@Vadim239 said:
This is still very slow. What about this?
ALTERNATIVE IDEA
When you reach the 1st devotion - entity gives you 300 shards,
for the 2nd devotion - 500 shards
for the 3rd devotion - 700 shards,
for the 4th devotion - 900 shards,
for the 5th devotion - 1100 shards
for the 6th devotion - 1300 shards,
for the 7th devotion - 1500 shards,
for the 8th devotion - 1700 shards
for the 9th devotion - 1900 shards,
for the 10th devotion - 2100 shards
for the 11th devotion -2300 shards,
for the 12th devotion - 2500 shards,
for the 13th devotion - 2700 shards,
for the 14th devotion - 2900 shards,
for the 15th devotion - 3100 shards,
for the 16th devotion - 3300 shards
for the 17th devotion - 3500 shards,
for the 18th devotion - 3700 shards,
for the 19th devotion - 3900 shards,
for the 20th devotion - 4100 shards
for the 21st devotion - 4300 shards,
for the 22nd devotion - 4500 shards,
etc.
PLEASE VOTE IF YOU AGREETHIS ONE
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A single high level gives 300 Shards, so the same reward for reaching one hundred is not enough. I think 5% of extra Shards each degree of Devotion (for example, 300 Shards for a new level become 315, with Devotion 1; 330, with Devotion 2; and so on...).
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I could go either way on giving BP or shard bonus increases for each devotion rank, though I would like to issue a strong word of warning that having too much of an influx in an economy can be worse than doing nothing at all.
We can easily look to countries in the real world where increasing money in circulation seemed like a no brainier fix, but ultimately created a system where the money was worth less than the paper it was printed on, facilitating the need to either move to a new currency, or just start adding more zeros to the existing currency, essentially making a single unit of the currency completely worthless.
Already we have 3 currencies (not counting event currencies like Vials), one earned in match that can be spent on leveling up characters, one earned post match/via devotion level up that can be spent on skins or teachable perks, and a third that acts as a premium currency that can be used to purchase skins and DLC.If we increase the flow of shards, the value of the premium currency will drop, meaning that they now have to lower the cost of items purchase with premium currency, and will very like in an attempt to recoup lost costs, increase the price of premium currency...with the other option being adding a whole new premium currency, which quickly begins to resemble a bad MMO/freemium game with dozens of currency systems, where none are kept in check.
Obviously this is all a snowball effect, but since this exact same situation has played out over and over again both in the real world and the world of gaming, it is a very realistic possibility.
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@PoppaSquat said:
I could go either way on giving BP or shard bonus increases for each devotion rank, though I would like to issue a strong word of warning that having too much of an influx in an economy can be worse than doing nothing at all.
We can easily look to countries in the real world where increasing money in circulation seemed like a no brainier fix, but ultimately created a system where the money was worth less than the paper it was printed on, facilitating the need to either move to a new currency, or just start adding more zeros to the existing currency, essentially making a single unit of the currency completely worthless.
Already we have 3 currencies (not counting event currencies like Vials), one earned in match that can be spent on leveling up characters, one earned post match/via devotion level up that can be spent on skins or teachable perks, and a third that acts as a premium currency that can be used to purchase skins and DLC.If we increase the flow of shards, the value of the premium currency will drop, meaning that they now have to lower the cost of items purchase with premium currency, and will very like in an attempt to recoup lost costs, increase the price of premium currency...with the other option being adding a whole new premium currency, which quickly begins to resemble a bad MMO/freemium game with dozens of currency systems, where none are kept in check.
Obviously this is all a snowball effect, but since this exact same situation has played out over and over again both in the real world and the world of gaming, it is a very realistic possibility.
Um. BP is not money. If you make more BP it doesn't lose its purchasing power. There is no inflation here.
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If they decide to give shards for devotion, this will definately affect the yellow currency. But if they give BP for devotion, that will not affect anything I think.
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@Entità said:
A single high level gives 300 Shards, so the same reward for reaching one hundred is not enough. I think 5% of extra Shards each degree of Devotion (for example, 300 Shards for a new level become 315, with Devotion 1; 330, with Devotion 2; and so on...).the idea is nice but the increasing is low. 345 shards for 300 levels (devotion 3) ? I can earn it for 4-5 matches.
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@Vadim239 No, I'll explain it again. Every level up gives you a reward in Shards: I think this reward should be increased by 5% for each degree of Devotion. For example, when you pass from the 65th to the 66th level, you gain 300 Shards, while, if you have Devotion 1, the reward should be 315.
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@Entità said:
@Vadim239 No, I'll explain it again. Every level up gives you a reward in Shards: I think this reward should be increased by 5% for each degree of Devotion. For example, when you pass from the 65th to the 66th level, you gain 300 Shards, while, if you have Devotion 1, the reward should be 315.you're speaking about the changes within the system of each level. But I think it is easier to give one amount of something after devotion level is increased.
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Are devs reading the forum discussions sometimes? Are they considering anything about this?0 -
They read suggestions, yes, but they don't comment very often.
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I still don't think giving shards for devotion level is something they would want to do, because, if people have more shards they'll buy auric cells less, which is not so good for devs I think. Giving BPs is a much better idea to my mind still
This oneWhen you reach the 1st devotion - entity gives you 25 000 BP,
for the 2nd devotion - 50 000 BP,
for the 3rd devotion - 75 000 BP,
for the 4th devotion - 100 000 BP,
for the 5th devotion - 125 000 BP
for the 6th devotion - 150 000 BP,
for the 7th devotion - 175 000 BP,
for the 8th devotion - 200 000 BP,
for the 9th devotion - 225 000 BP,
for the 10th devotion - 250 000 BP,
for the 11th devotion - 275 000 BP,
for the 12th devotion - 300 000 BP,
for the 13th devotion - 325 000 BP,
for the 14th devotion - 350 000 BP,
for the 15th devotion - 375 000 BP,
for the 16th devotion - 400 000 BP
for the 17th devotion - 425 000 BP,
for the 18th devotion - 450 000 BP,
for the 19th devotion - 475 000 BP,
for the 20th devotion - 500 000 BP,
for the 21st devotion - 525 000 BP,
for the 22nd devotion - 550 000 BP,
etc. up to a million.
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Doesn't matter man. We keep talking and talking. Devs, Why not throw us a bone and with something little, encourage those who kept leveling up, for some unknown reason. Give us the reason to do that. Nobody f.... see my devotion. Why the hell is it there?
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what about giving a piece of clothing everytime the player reaches the round number of devotion level ? like this, for example
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And by the way, can you tell me please,
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first of all: why spamming so much if one answer that enough?
second: i up this post to bring some thoughts, not some kinda dah answers :)
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