Even Tru3 said he will derank because queue times at high rank is too long
He said you don't want to be at Rank 1 since queue time is 30 minutes long
Tru DC to lower rank not to have 30 minute queue time at Rank 1
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What a shocker... The game is in an unplayable state ever since they made pipping harder without changing anything about the survivor emblems. I'm surprised he didn't do this sooner.
Then again, de-ranking is apparently on the same scale as murder, according to some people.
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The devs have so much ######### going on its ridiculous.
People want to dc to derank and find matches without waiting for 30 minutes.
While one side wants to punish everyone who DCs by banning them.
What a ######### position to be in bhvr
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devs have to wake up ffs. another fog whisperer is breaking the games rules and shows his community its ok to dc and derank. DEVS WAKE UP
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The thing is you still pip too easy as killer making it inevitable to get to rank 1 unless you're doing nothing all game. I'm actively trying not to pip by camping at least one survivor per game which reduces emblem scores and by giving the last survivor the hatch etc. yet I'm at red ranks again. Meanwhile it's almost impossible to pip if you play solo survivor. As a result you got tons of red rank killers and tons of green rank survivors causing long queues.
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Gee, I wonder why queue times are so long at high ranks when everyone and their mother is purposefully deranking.
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Yep I also have started to DC now since it is the only way to Derank, even playing bad I get safely pip as Killer, its a joke the current system
not to mention I get no rewards being at Rank 1 and gets punished with High Queue Time
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I think the biggest issue is that they are so focused on delivering new content rather than fixing the foundation the game is built upon. The vast majority of people (I'm very confident) would rather forgo a new killer release if it means getting core mechanics/age old bugs fixed.
I just really wish BHVR would realize they need to fix what currently plagues DBD before adding new releases that only add to the growing list of bugs. Focus please on making the game work properly!
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If tru3 wants to derank it means something cuz he was always trying to avoid to do that.
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AND there is no statement from the devs or the community managers regarding this awful situation for highrank players
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Such a stupid statement.
1. He never said HOW he's going to derank. Maybe he's just playing meme builds and let's everyone escape at the end.
2. Even if he would DC to derank: He plays Killers, he wouldn't harm anyone DCing as killer.
So what's your point?
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do read the forum? a ######### ton of ppl are complaining about players disconnecting and deranking. and now tru3 does it and its ok because he shows that something is wrong? are you for real? he is a big streamer and shows now to his viewers that its ok to dc. even if he cant find games its not ok to do that, especially as a streamer.
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thats no excuse to show the community that its ok the break the games rules and DC. he has a responsibility as content creater and streamer.
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Nowhere did Tru3 say he would derank by dc'ing. That's everyone applying their own assumptions onto the deranking statement. There are other ways to derank--in fact, with this pipping change, all you have to do is play casually and you're guaranteed a down-pip.
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No, as Killer it is easy to Rank Up. I play as Legion, did nothing but chases one person all game, hits others when I get the chance and I still get Safely Pip most of the time, you have to be literally playing one of the worst Killers (Freddy, Leatherface), avoid hooking too much, get Pellet-looped for the whole game to get a De-pip
Meanwhile while I am playing bad, I get survivors posting on my steam profile saying im a Trash Killer, despite the fact that i am losing intentionally, hence its just better to DC most of the time
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A bunch of people were warning the community and the devs that allowing certain people to DC on their streams was going to trickle down and make the dc issue worse. And look at where we are now... it's worse. Compounded by the fact that the piping system and queues are ######### for killers at red ranks.... deranking to get games instead of deranking to get easier games (or as these dc'ers said a variety of killers) is completely different.
Either way the DC issue is a problem. But don't forget why it started.
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Streamers aren't allowed to DC
They are not given preferential treatment regarding bans or disconnects
Stop spreading lies
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when a streamer is "warned they are close to getting banned" that is preferential treatment.
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Idc what the rules are, he isn't harming anyone so it's fine for me. Some rules are stupid, others aren't. Use your brain or are you eating everything what someone with higher authority puts on your plate?
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Pretty much this, One Fog whisperer who is an occasional De-ranker was warned by not_Queen herself.
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You can choose to not follow the rules but then you will get banned and people will laugh at you when you come to cry about it here
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damn, i thought you are just an fanboy, but it looks like you a tru3 cultist. im done talking to you if you cant argue like an adult and only try to protect your fav streamer bb.
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Ok
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I'm not fully understanding your stance. Like, your comment history shows that you are frustrated with the idea of red rank people struggling to find games, but you seem to be without exception against the notion of DCing just to avoid being unable to play the game as if you show zero mercy to that situation. I'm not saying I condone DCing, but how long can one really tolerate not being able to play the game?
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You need to dc a ridiculous amount of time before that happens. And there are different ways to derank
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I'm not protecting tru3, I'm protecting EVERY killer player who has issues to find survivors at Red ranks cuz I know how it is. Bye 👋
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what do you mean? im hitting rank one in 4-5 days after rank reset. yes it sucks because i cant play the game as killer anymore before survivors reach red ranks aswell. but thats how it is. if you cant stand that you should play another game instead of showing thousends of ppl that disconnecting is ok because thats the only way to play the game. so many streamers did that already and look where we are at now: every single game someone is disconnecting because they there is no punishment and their fav streamer is doing it aswell. pretty good job so far.
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That should be a sign that things are fundamentally flawed somewhere. I think telling people "don't play the game if you don't want to not play the game" should also be a sign of that. It means that things are messed up no matter what.
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DC is bad yeah, but idk why you are bringing this up here, Tru3 never said he was gonna DC to derank, he just said he was going to derank, period.
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I played against TrueTalent once, a camping and tunneling nurse...
I am not that sad if he does not find any games, this dude is simply unpleasant.
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@Kenshin Oh please, I am not saying it's okay in any way. I am all for stricter DCing banning system.
What I am saying is that if a streamer that has NEVER DC'd in order to derank has started to do it, then that's a massive sign that something is awfully wrong with DbD.
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For the record, he plays the full game and then DCs at the end, so nobody loses pips or points as a result of the DC. It is not comparable with the deranking tactics of other lesser streamers.
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Lol a certain Fog Whisperer, which all we know, does this exact same thing DCing in the gate and gets blasted for it. Why shouldn’t Tru3 get the same treatment? That’s hypocritical.
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Wait, what?! DCing as killer doesn’t harm anyone? So it’s ok for killers to DC, but not survivors?
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Actually, it ruins the game for 4 people potentially costing then everything earned to that point.
Stop being so biased.
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Exactly. It started as a small thing/meme idea that some people would do it to get easier games. Now it's gotten so out of hand it's the only way to get games at higher ranks. To just not be at higher ranks.
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1) The queue problem seems to affect different people differently. I don't have problems finding games at rank 1 killer within 5 minutes, and rank 3 solo survivor within 2 minutes. However when I play SWF it can take upwards of 10 minutes, but I have been playing with low ranks and high ranks. Seems to happen more when I'm with people way below my rank. If I'm with another red or purple rank we still find games quickly.
2) True still plays out the game he just DC's at the end. That's the honorable way to do it. He's not hurting anyone but himself when he does this. The other players still get their emblems/BP and he deranks so he can find games. The only one that might get screwed is the very last guy he kills, but I still think it's gonna be the same for him.
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But he is still hitting DC to purposefully lose rank.
I agree it's better than starting the game and screwing everyone over immediately, but it's still intentional de rank dcing. If anyone needs to de rank queue wraith and afk in basement. Watch YouTube. While I dont agree with intentional de ranking, if you're gonna do it at least dont double down on bad ideas lol.
Not to mention hes a fog whisperer and should represent the best of what this community should try to be. Not showing us how to exploit a broken system willingly.
Now if he catches a DC ban Is he gonna accept it or be upset?
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I've started de-ranking as well, not dcing but just playing casually and some meme builds every now and then. The game is more of a casual game now, no matter how much you want it to be competitive, it won't work, the ranking system is literally just there to separate noobs from people with experience. I hate having to wait so long for a match, the devs have screwed up, now tru3, who is someone who hates de-ranking is doing what he hates now. Looks like we're all becoming what we've hated
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Because said other Fog Whisperer does it to bully worse killers, whereas Tru3 is doing it because he actually wants to play the game without waiting 7 years for a match.
There is a big difference.
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Well he's also not deranking to like rank 12 to play games like other people do. He deranks to rank 2 or rank 3, still within his rank range. So I don't see a problem with that for the sake of finding games. The problem with deranking is people do it A LOT to get easier matches. They go from red rank to green rank. At this point queue times be damned, you're doing it to bully another player.
There is a line. True IMO stays under that line. He doesn't ABUSE the deranking, which is the critical factor here. He just does it a little here and there to find games, while staying within his rank range. The survivors he gets are still high rank and therefore he's not bullying anyone or ruining their experience by going AFK or quitting at the start. Until the devs fix ranking and MM, he doesn't have much of a choice but to do that.
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I agree with your moral points about how he does it, but the fact remains, he is a fog whisperer, and shouldnt be doing it at all.
People look up the game and see the behavior selected streamers de ranking on purpose, it sends a bad message.
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its crazy to see how many ppl will defend their fav streamer to the bitter end. as content creator and streamer you should represent such gameplay at all. its such a shame that he is doing it and even more that ppl are defending him for it. he was always talking against disconnecting but now he does it himself. he was always a hypocrite but i thought he would at least not break the games rules live on stream, oh well
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Well, what message is sent when a Fog Whisperer has to choose between not playing the game or DCing?
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That the developers should fix the rank? Or they shouldnt be a fog whisperer? Like. Its not hard to go off and do whatever you want. But when you represent the game or community, that ######### cant happen.
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More likely the first one, in my book. Second one seems like a consequence of the first one, in my book.
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So when someone is unwilling to be held to a higher standard when they SOUGHT OUT the position, they should be allowed to just say ######### it and game the system? No. If it's an issue for him that he feels the NEED to DC or de rank on PURPOSE, he should step down as fog whisperer, as he is not representing the best of this game. Hes representing the kids on the forums who say "DC for X since it wont ban me its allowable".
Either deal with the consequences and situations that being in that position has, or remove yourself from the position.
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The problem is if he can't play then his viewer count could go down, he is a fog whisperer yes but if he can't play it could cost him money, it's his chosen career to play and entertain.
I am sure as a fog whisperer tru for one will be in contact with the devs to let them know the problem he faces at rank 1.
Tru also never said he would DC to derank there are other ways to do it but it does mean changing how he plays.
It's a problem with the system BHVR implemented when someone who has never done and is against it now sees the need too derank.
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That's fine. He doesnt have to be a fog whisperer to be able to stream.
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But he can't play if he doesn't. If devs fix ranking and MM then he has no reason to be doing it.
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