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Huntress CrossHair

My apologies to the community for throwing this out there. The forums can be all over the place. I understand the need for balancing. I get it. But when is the Huntress going to be addressed? Her hit box is the worst in the game and in other games if you used an outside source for an advantage (cross hair) you would get banned. Not only has this been tolerated, it’s been completely ignored. I don’t mind a killer getting buffed. But to ignore an outside advantage in the game just makes the devs look bad. Has there been any discussion or info regarding this issue? Thanks to all

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  • Olising
    Olising Member Posts: 40
    edited April 2019

    I'm not sure I've seen any sort of crosshair on huntress being adressed. I know some people have (in the past) drawn a line on their computer screen with something erasable or stuck something on their screen as crosshairs. Im sure others have used software to implement a crosshair. I don't know if devs have ever said anything about this but the reason theres not much they can do is because how are they supposed to know someone is using a crosshair? If I draw a pen line on my computer screen there is no way anyone would know unless I started telling people, therefore it would be hard to ban someone from the game for that. Also, for anyone playing her who has already player her before should know about where the hatchet would go without the need of a crosshair anyway, and so probably almost nobody uses one, and if they did there wouldnt be much difference anyway imo.

    I, as a person who frequently plays huntress but also plays against her think that her hitbox is slightly to strong, but most of it seems to be down to latency in the match. If you wait until dedicated servers roll out the hitbox issue on her hatchets may be fixed.

  • Jimsalabim
    Jimsalabim Member Posts: 641

    the only thing they do is implement bandwagon fixes thru perks to buff solo players (but not nearly enough) to get them a bit closer to a swf combo with all the extra information they have. but that's probably another issie discussed in one of the many exiciting discussion posts

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    Still can't accept that perhaps it's just you're bad since most swf groups are overly altruistic potatoes. But hey lets not let actual facts and logic get in the way of your trolling and oh btw the survival rate below 50% in red ranks says hi.

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796

    @powerbats Source?

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    One can be detected and one can't be, one can be banned for one can't be, see how logic is your friend. Oh and one automates an in game function for you, the other one doesn't, there logic has proven to be a friend again.


    It'd be like a survivor using a auto skill check program to auto hit great skill checks every time.

  • burntFuse
    burntFuse Member Posts: 290

    If they added this, I want to also have DLC cosmetic hatchets with scope attachments.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    You can't actually detect overlay software; at least not in a way that makes it possible to distinguish between overlay software you're using on your own computer for your own purposes and overlay software you're using to cheat. You also can't detect someone sticking a piece of paper on their screen. A similar reasoning is used for not banning voice chat.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    There's actually a few programs that were detectable and the site selling them along with other hacks got shut down. I don't use either of the methods described for aiming since it's not helping me aim better.

  • r3dsox4
    r3dsox4 Member Posts: 3

    Powerbats, so a player asks about something in the game that seems to be broken and then is accused of being bad and trolling? That’s why this community is terrible. The huntress has been brought up by players much better than you such as Angrypug. But I suppose he is bad and trolling too? I get other people’s point as far as using paper and comms on the survivors end. I actually don’t do the SWF because no one I know plays this game as well as when I’m invited by randoms I refuse as I run into try hard tools like you. Other people can address what I posted and be cool as they read the whole post and get it. I see by the number of your posts and comments you are one of those toxic people that likes to post to Reddit and Steam profiles because you take this game way too serious. Next time before you open your mouth know who you are talking to. Had the game since day one. Don’t need to say hi to red ranks. I am one. But thanks for assuming.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,871

    Honestly, I'd be fine with just a crosshair being added for Huntress in-game. Heaven knows I'd need it.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
    edited April 2019

    A picture without context? Nice. Are DCs counted? Were matches that included DC disregarded? When was this? What the Killer breakdown? What's the SWF breakdown?

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506

    @Tzeentchling9 It was a devstream within the last months showing survival rates based on rank, map, killer, etc. If you don't want to do the research, don't debate the evidence I just gave you supporting the argument.

    The source is the devs themselves.

    Dcs are counted just as much as killers letting people go. They wash out. Nice to see you didn't ask about that possible miscalculation. Was it because it doesn't fit your argument?

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    edited April 2019

    @Tzeentchling9

    It was Devstream 114: Let's Talk Numbers.

    Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO3jgH173ik


    Also, heres one based on killers getting Moris


  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
    edited April 2019


    EDIT: Your new post beat me to it

  • DocOctober
    DocOctober Member Posts: 2,230

    Is the context taken into account?

    What about all the games that would end with 0-1 kill IF the Survivors had decided to gtfo (= loss for the Killer, because Survivors played better), but then turned into 2-4 kills thanks to their own greed for some more altruism points making them screw up (= win for the Killer because the Survivors messed up)?

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    edited April 2019

    Edit: Yep, source had been given.


    I'm waiting for the "Oh ThAtS tOo Old To CoUnT" response.

    Numbers are numbers.

    Thats WELL below 50%



    @powerbats Got that source for Tzee for you. I see why you stopped responding about it now.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    edited April 2019

    Same as accounting for the times the killer had an easy 4k and let everyone leave instead. Or when a killer has 3 in basement, but a deliverance, insta medkit, and borrowed time happen. They wash out, because they are fringe examples.

    But you should know that, given your EXTENSIVE mathematics background.

    <3

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796

    Congrats you posted a second before me, no need to be condescending.

  • PeepingPeacock
    PeepingPeacock Member Posts: 354

    Basically everyone that mains huntress uses a crosshair, its literally impossible to enforce not using one for her and really she should just get one as a base part of the game.


    If your worried about outside programs giving an advantage in game you shouldn't be, its always going to be the case unless the game is fundamentally changed so that two people playing on pc and using the steam overlay to talk to each other does not give them an insane advantage over other players.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506

    No need to be a dick about it either when I first gave you your requested proof, but here we are.

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796

    They didn't any context for those numbers during that stream btw.

    Where are you getting DCs and letting Survivors go cancelling each other out?

  • Detective_Jonathan
    Detective_Jonathan Member Posts: 1,165

    Lol

    @Tzeentchling9 That passive aggressiveness is going to get you banned. If you're actually trying to talk some smack to someone, at least have the common decency to @ them

    @Carpemortum It doesn't surprise me, considering he's usually pretty aggressive with a lot of people on the forums.

  • Vortexas
    Vortexas Member Posts: 757

    The only one that exists is made purely by hardware (The videocard) They cannot ban you for a feature of a major hardware company.


    And the crosshairs aren't even that useful, seeing how her shots vary in arc.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506
    edited April 2019

    @Tzeentchling9

    They didn't give context? You mean they didn't break down every single game as who dc who kills who escapes? Of course not, that's THOUSANDS of games a day..

    They tell you with each chart what they are for. Mori rates, escape rates based on map, based on rank, etc. They give you full context, just not the random fringe examples that shouldn't be concerned with as much.

    I'm saying they cancel each other out in terms of mattering for the escape rate, as they are not normal situations. They don't happen every game making the numbers THAT flawed.

    As in, yeah one game someone may DC and the rest escape, but the next the killer may go afk, thats a total of 1 "kill" and 7 "escapes" in two games. That doesn't mean that the escape rate is almost 80%, because those are not normal endgame circumstances.

    I said they cancel each other out, because as being fringe examples, one grants more kills in the statistics, and the other gives less, both skewing the actual numbers. Since they are on opposite sides of the spectrum, I just use simple logic to say, "hey, these situations CAN and DO occur, but since they're both non normal endgame situations, and one says kills should be higher, and the other says they should be lower, they may as well not exist in terms of this statistic".

  • Tower_XVI
    Tower_XVI Member Posts: 109
    edited April 2019

    I honestly think there should just be a brown addon for huntress that puts a crosshair on the screen. It could be helpful for newer players picking her up.

  • DocOctober
    DocOctober Member Posts: 2,230

    There's no statistical evidence for your claims and unless you are the devs' stats guy, you are literally making these up.

    The matter of fact is that with the numbers the devs give us, we lack ALL context of how they came to be. We have no idea how many games had their result skewed.

    Your "fringe" examples, taking into consideration the flood of complaint threads about 3v1 games and Survivors disconnecting from trials, it would be just as fair, if not more so, to assume that those happen quite more often than you claim they do.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    I don't have one and never have on any of my video cards and the only games that came with it were FPS games. Also yes her hit box issue is either here let me throw it anywhere on the map and have it hit you. That or it's point blank range and it flies right through your body.