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Remember Me and Gate times nerfed?
I get the EGC, and I get the 3 minute thing once the gens are powered.
Remember Me stacks are reduced to 4 max, and 4 seconds per stack? 16 total added on seconds? That sucks.
And the gate timer is now 15 seconds instead of 20? That sucks too.
Before, if you hit the obsession 6 times you could get 30 seconds. With 20. 50 seconds to open if you're NOT the obsession.
That would be a bit extreme in the EGC now. I agree. They should keep the 4 seconds per hit, but make it stackable to 6 again. Or at least 5. Seriously.
Maxed out, it is 15+16. 31 seconds.
So we went from 50, to 31. That's a heavy nerf... really heavy.
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Imagine how fast the exit gates will open if someone with Leader is standing nearby.
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Yeah. I think they've really really screwed this up. Either keep the changes and reduce the EGC timer to 2 minutes from 3, or change them back and keep it at 3? I don't know. This is NOT balanced.
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The thing is, EGC is only intended to end games quicker, not to give killers an actual increased chance for a comeback.
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Um so?
They could just leave?
Not give survivors an increased chance at a comeback? ;)
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I’m sorry you don’t get a free win with the new end game. Like someone else said it was added to make the end game not last as long.
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The perk was already pretty bad before and now it's just trash. Not only did they reduce the opening time, but if anything the time should have been increased. These balance changes make no sense at all.
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In my opinion they should rethink about these changes.
The exit gate timer should drop to 15s and the OLD Remember me should use half of its stacks only if the killer chooses to close the hatch.
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Good to know that the killer can't even patrol gates effectively. And here I thought things might get interesting with a sense of pressure, nevermind I guess.
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@thatguyinktown nope. It won't. If somehow they're both on the hatch killer won.
- Close the Hatch
- Just chase that person around for 3 minutes or less
- Profit
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@thatguyinktown As i said. This is when both players ARE ON THE HATCH aka the hatch standoff
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i think they should do its put the 20s openning the exit gate and buff remember me
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BHVR somehow doesn't realize that they don't need to nerf everything. They went totally overboard with this. How is it they decided survivors need all of these perks shifted more in their favor? I'm a survivor main, and I find it to be complete BS.
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The worst part is that there was no reason for the Remember Me nerf because the end game collapse doesn’t start until the gates actually open.
I could understand the change if the 3 minute timer began when the gens were powered since waiting 50 seconds would be too much, but there’s no time limit for opening the gates.
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Yea, they went from 50s to 31s. They're doing a great job as always.
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No one is asking for a free win though. The fact that they made end game for Killers worse has a lot of people upset. Sure they'll end quicker, but that's only because Survivors have to leave and Killers can't really do anything about it, and Killers can't control the pace of the EGC in an effective, and positive, way for themselves. Unlike survivors.
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I would like for a dev to comment on this. I make valid, logical arguments here. Why are things getting nerfed? I don't get it.
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I don't think the responsible developers are active in the forums. The community managers surely know the reasoning behind those changes but that doesn't mean they support it.
If I were them, I would also remain silent to avoid getting falsely targeted as someone that's responsible for those decisions. Can't really blame them for keeping it quiet.
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'I make valid, logical arguments here'
That's why you are losing. Try to suggest something like 10 seconds to open exit gates instead of 15, they will comment on it and say that they are gonna take that into consideration.
Sarcasm aside, they are really silent for this update, a couple of devs would comment occasionally when there was a PTB before. They are just gonna remain silent it seems to me.
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Thanks for your support. I do love this game, but I'm falling out of love with it. Sadly.
I'm making a thick post in the 2.7 ptb feedback forum now. Check it out soon.
I just don't get some things.
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Honestly, with how Endgame Collapse works they could have easily kept the current 20 second doors and wouldn't have needed to change Remember Me. I understand that they want people to still get out after the hatch is closed, but they couldn't just add a caveat to Remember Me saying that it deactivates if you close the hatch?
I really don't understand why instead of making a logical change to Remember Me they decided to destroy Freddy's best teachable.
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You get it. Bingo.
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It's so that the survivor has 2 chances to escape after failing the objective. Stupid I know but they seem to be all about multiple second chances lately.
Last one alive, hatch spawns and you get a free escape for nothing no matter if theres generators done or not, You loose again and the killer beats you to the hatch don't worry because the exit gates get powered and you get another chance at escape and they've made it even easier with 15 seconds for the killer to try run from the hatch to each exit gate..... It's ridiculous.
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I am sure they are getting plenty of false data with survivors killing themselves to see the collapse visuals. The only thing these changes have done is hand us a stress free win. After gen 5 you have less than 20sec to worry about Noed and 3min to taunt.
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