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Adept Killer Achievements
The new way of geting the adept killer achievements by needing a double pip don't make any sense. They don't represent your performance in a round and are nearly impossible to achieve with certain killers. Also achieving them is way more influenced by luck than by skill.
I will explain it based on the plague:
- First of all it is very hard to aply engouh preassure on the survivors with only her 3 teachable perks. It is possible to get a 4k but a double pip is almost impossible.
- It depends too much on different factors. For example, if the survivors are too good they will rush the gens and you won't be able to get the kills and hooks and will definitely not double pip. Thats ok! But also if the survivor are too bad and die too fast you will not chase enough, you will nothit them enough and you will maybe not even hook them enough to double pip. So you have a pretty good game with a 4K but it will propably end for you with 1 or 2 points before the double pip.
- To receive that double pip you have to get lucky with the survivors, the map and how they play but it has absolutely nothing to do with your performance but rather the fact that the survivors fit right into the place where they are not too good and not too bad to prevent you from getting that double pip.
- Furthermore: As soon as someone disconnects or kills themself on the first hook you won't get a double pip regardless of your performance.
Also the difference between the difficulty of adept killer compared to the difficulty of adept survivor now is massive. And that does not mean that I want it so the survivors also need a double pip.
No one in the community asked for this change and it's not like everyone has those adept achievements. Most of them are the rarest achievements because you have to actively equip the 3 teachable perks to get them and can't get them during normal gameplay.
I don't think that I'm the only one who is bothered by this change.
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I tried many times to get the adept plague when she released, but given the new pip system I just couldn't do it without getting lucky so I decided to wait for a change. Basing a trophy on the performance of your opponent is bad game design, imo.
It comes down to killer pips, which are in desperate need of a change/reversal. Killers should not have to hook each survivor more than one time to max sacrifice if they get those four sacrifices. Disconnects should also count as sacrifices in terms of emblems and pips.
For the plague, specifically, it seems her healing pools create an extra difficulty for emblems. I've tried not using her power, but that doesn't make a 4k easier.
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Wait, when did they make that change? That was a terrible idea.
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The change came with the Plague
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I totally agree there!
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Guess I'll never get the adept killer achievements then.
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Yes and also people that already got them with the old system or even way back in the days where you only had to unlock all 3 teachable perks to get it. Have a big advantage in this point. I was lucky and got all except the Plague before the change.
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@Erak that was just for the OG surv and killers
@thrawn3054 its.... Still possible. But you need to have more patience than ever before.
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I know that it was for the original killers. And yes it is possible and it does not bother me that it takes longer. It just does not represent any skill, it represents luck. And also I don't want to play Plague for 100 games to get it because I don't like playing her.
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I agree it is too tricky. I speak as someone who has got all Adept trophies. It's best to try and go for Adepts on the day of rank reset.
Adept needs to be changed to a simple merciless 4 kill and that's it.
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It is ridiculous. Survivors don't need to double pip and escape to get Adept, so why do Killers need to be perfect in literally every way?
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@Milo I know it's still possible. But not worth the ass ache.
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I’m glad I got all my adept trophies before the change because holy heck if I hadn’t I would completely give up on getting that platinum. I’m a little sad Myers and Plague will be forever out of reach.
The only trophy I need now is the 4 man hatch escape and I’m hoping the new changes will make it a little easier since I’m under the impression the hatch opens when gens are powered now too.
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Playing established players can be a nightmare attempting 2 pip Killer Adepts. I tried once on the day of rank reset, played against a team of Buzz Lightyear Mrs Nesbitts...got Adept Plague first time.
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@pemberley hatch never opens unless there's one survivor remaining
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It's waaaaay more difficult and you need to use the best add-ons every match, but still possible. But yeah, it was better before the update.
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RNG, just like everything else in Dead by Daylight! :D
(No, but Adept Plague is impossible for me to get, I'm glad I got all my other adepts for the killers I own before the change. If I get anyone else tho it's probably gonna be as ridiculously hard as Plague)
I want them to revert it to just a 4k again as well.
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Yeah Adept Plague was a real pain for me as well. Adept achievements should be awarded for 4K, not Merciless, especially considering how the requirements now scale depending on rank.
[Edit:] btw, Adept Plague achievement stands at a solid 0,1% on Steam, meaning 1 out of a thousand players have it. Even that nightmarish Evil Incarnate is 1,1%.
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I managed to get it even tough it was a pain in the a**!
Some tips to achieve it!
- I got it after Rang reset and I waited aswell for a few days after the reset till I played killer again. I was at Rank 11.
- You should try to get iridecent Gatekeeper, Devout, and Malicious because for me chaser was the hardest to achieve. (I hooked everyone 3 times but still got chaser often only on silver. Damage from sickness does not count for chaser I guess).
- To get gatekeeper iridecent make sure that the survivors don't do more than 3 gens.
- Malicious and Devout were the easiest and I got them almost every attemt as iridecent.
- For Chaser I tried not to injure people with vile purge instead I hit them two times.
All in all the new adept achievements are still just an indicator that you got massive patience or enourmous luck.
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Trying on plague as it's the only trophy I don't have. It's very difficult. 4k with 3 iridescents and a silver (chase) just a 1 pip. They didn't even get 4 gens done.
Silly.
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