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How would you feel about this MoM change?

I’ll start by saying I really don’t have a big issue with the perk, but still wanted to offer this up anyway to see what both sides think. This is a pretty simple change, so it may have been already discussed here, sorry if that’s the case.

  • Activation requirement - same as it is now
  • When Mettle of Man is activated, ANY hit that would bring a survivor from Healthy state to Dying state instead brings them to Injured state.

Thats it. So any killer who’s not Billy, Leatherface, or Myers will NEVER see MoM in any game unless they equip an Exposed status perk. Possibly running into MoM would be their risk in choosing that. So obviously aside from those 3 killers, the biggest benefit would be being able to take a NOED hit when healthy (and have the perk up of course)....which a lot of people are anyway given the popularity of Adrenaline. It could also come into play against Make Your Choice, Devour, and definitely Rancor. Would this change make the perk TOO situational though? I’m really not sure. If so, maybe the activation requirement could be tweaked. It definitely shouldn’t be more than the current 3 hits with this change. I don’t think the whole aura thing after healing would be necessary either any more with it being a lot more situational. What do you guys think?

Comments

  • bendermac
    bendermac Member Posts: 772

    Still a big NOOOOO

    perk should be removed/replaced. PERIOD

  • NuclearBurrito
    NuclearBurrito Member Posts: 6,807

    I mean it would probably need a lower activation requirement in that case. Maybe even use a token system so the effect can be used repeatedly.

    Could work but not without further changes

  • Crythor
    Crythor Member Posts: 296

    While it would be better it still would be a perk rewarding failure. Those perks shouldnt exist at all.

  • Deadeye
    Deadeye Member Posts: 3,627

    I'd say the perk is as good as is. Atm of course, but I think they want to change this soon, there are some killers that don't trigger it with their most used attack and it only triggers on M1 attacks. Which would be no activation at all on nurse blink hits and Legion Frenzy hits. Second might not be the problem as he will be nerfed and converted to M1 killer, nurse would be stupid if not changed (but as I said, I think I heard blink hits will trigger it soon)

    Regarding the uselessness against deadly attacks, I think as this is a pretty strong perk, there is no need to change to make it even more useful. I don't complain if I choose Distortion and the killer doesn't have aura perks. And I don't expect changes to have more benefits to make it useful in such games. I don't complain about DC being useless against sulg builds. I don't complain about Proove Thyself being rather uselessa gainst Discordance.

    I'd rather say make the weaker perks stronger and keep the stronger ones as they are so it makes more sense to try out new builds and don't have 80% of the survivors run the same perks.

  • Deadeye
    Deadeye Member Posts: 3,627
    edited May 2019

    btw

    "So any killer who’s not Billy, Leatherface, or Myers will NEVER see MoM in any game unless they equip an Exposed status perk"

    That would require the survivors knowing what the killer runs BEFORE the game starts, no?

    "...which a lot of people are anyway given the popularity of Adrenaline"

    So you want the endgame to be completely survivor sided as they can counter insta downs AND if no insta downs are around by perk or power, take 3 hits, looping the killer forever. With the popularity of Adrenaline, this change would rise the popularity of Mom+Adrenaline to like 90%

  • HURRI_KAIN
    HURRI_KAIN Member Posts: 358

    After the current PTB, it is my understanding that the glitches on MoM will be corrected. These glitches, include M1 killers like nurse, which do not currently stack MoM. There is nothing wrong with MoM as is. Killers are just whining. MoM is literally a one time DH. Noone is complaining about DH. MoM has significant prerequisites, and debuff after used and healed. Just get skilled with DH and use it instead of MoM. lol.

  • Deadeye
    Deadeye Member Posts: 3,627
    edited May 2019

    Why are there killers whining? This topic is about a survivor requesting a buff as he calls it useless in certain situations.

    I don't think there is a problem either. But it is not really a one time DH. In many situations you can just wait for the DH if you meet a survivor first. If activated, the distance normally doesn't help the survivor. Next difference is, the killer gets the hit cooldown and the survivor a hit speedboost. On DH the killer only gets a miss cooldown and the survivor like 2 meters distance. But as it is a one time perk, I think the benefit is ok as it is a secure trigger. You can mess up DH timing, charge into a wall or simply get hit by the corrupt purge twice. To me both looks quite fair, you just have to know when to use what. And don't forget you can also run both perks. Horror scenario for killer if you are good at chases.

  • Ihatelife
    Ihatelife Member Posts: 5,069
    edited May 2019

    No. This perk should never be made. Devs literally don't know what they're doing.