Killed 3 or 4 survivors and not get pip
Maybe my dear friends from behavior.Maybe u do anything???######### u killed ALLTEAM or kill 75%team and nothing?i think will only nurses soon with this killer's gameplay.What do u think about it?
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The game requires you to play a specific way unfortunately.
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Don’t one hook survivors and don’t just one hit down them. If you absolutely slaughtered and they didn’t do anything, you may not have pipped but you depipped every single one of those dead survivors.
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Also, don't check lockers. And don't pull people off gens or totems. And never play Trapper. If you're not making survivors run while stabbing their butts, you're playing wrong.
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Let me correct that: "The survivors force you to play a particular way unfortunately."
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If you are absolutely slaughtering the survivors play with them a bit slug them make them come to do heals just to build up more points so you can pip. Or I hate saying this but I have seen it, if you are camping you get a -% to your chaster emblem as well as the fact that you won't be getting devout and you are not active you will depip. That's just the way it is.
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@PeenutsButt3r How so.
Survivors could run the killer around for the entire match - no pip
Only doing gens because there's legit nothing to do (killer not downing anyone) - no pip.
Don't be biased
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I'm surprised you said biased, this thread talks about killer, more specifically, killers at high ranks (1-9) it's either you keep them busy as slugging, hooking when necessary, chasing the right people and putting pressure around the map to halt the gen rushing or you'll get rekt, hence no pip for you even with 4 kills (you don't chase that long, you don't hit many times and gen progress is going fast). Not to mention playing as killers require more emblems points to pip than survivors.
The pace of the killer game is depending on how survivors putting pressure on gens (this is why I said 'survivors' not the 'game', means you can play whatever you like not to worry about pips), if lower rank you just take advantage of them being scared, hiding... and prolong the match easier than higher rank, which will grant you much more points toward emblems because you have time to do all the work, therefore EZ pip or double pip.
Since the topic is about pipping killer, so I said "The survivors force you to play a particular way unfortunately."
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@PeenutsButt3r hehehe new players who will play killers they will be mad :D
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Probably but definitely not a good time for them, I was survivors main and then later on I switch to play killer and got bullied many times, tbag and stuffs. It's much better now since I've learned how to play the nurse.
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Yesterday I killed 2 survivors and did 29k Bloodpoints as leatherface, quess what, I depipped. I did 10 hooks but they genrushed me so i had literally no emblem on gen protection. Fun
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No one's forcing you to play any way and it isn't the survivors who make the terms for pipping; it's the devs. Your blame is misplaced @PeenutsButt3r
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You did too good and was punished for it. You're supposed to play with your food if you want to rank up.
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Listen, if you want to pip as a killer and this thread is about that, you need to adapt to how survivors are going to play in order to get a pip right? And you can't just blame the devs for making pipping so hard for the killer. Ok if the OP doesn't play for pipping, just play for fun, memes... then I wouldn't have written that. If you want a pip, you need to earn it. I used the word "force" just to emphasize that.
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@fluffybunny At least rank system must be same.I know why main survivors not play on red ranks :D becauseeeeeee its difficuuuuuuuuult and they cant do anything without voice programs :D but mainsurvivors very like to teach how to play killers :D
Lul
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You probably stomped some Potatoes. And you think you deserve something for this?
Thats the problem with games nowadays - you need to put in little effort to achieve something and expect rewards for it.
If you stomped Potatoes, you will not pip. But you will, most likely, not depip either. And you can keep your Rank, while those Potatoes depip so that you will face better players and have more chances to actually outplay them, which rewards you with Pips.
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How long were you in chases?
How long were you sitting near a hooked survivor with no other survivors near by?
How many chases did you lose?
How fast were gens done?
How many gens were done?
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@UkilledLegion It actually can be very difficult to rank as survivor. Your pips rely so heavily on your team being competent and the killer being competent, you'll remain the same rank or even depip if they're even remotely not. If people decide to kill themselves, that hurts your pip, too, which happens a lot in solo play. I'm not sure what you're trying to say with the second portion. No offense meant, but it's kind of gibberish in English.
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@PeenutsButt3r If you want to pip, you play in a way that will help you pip. It's still the Devs that changed what you have to do to pip (multiple hooks, etc.), though I personally don't find it all that difficult to pip. Survivors also have to adapt to the other side and teammates. It isn't just Killers who need to adapt to the game they're given. I wouldn't consider the Survivors to be "forced" by Killers and other Survivors, though. They're just working within the rules of ranking that the Devs have laid out for both them and Killers.
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Tbh maybe it's just me but playing as survivors is more fun, more relaxing and having good moments compared to killers. As the killer, I feel under pressure of trying to pip rather than having fun right now (since I'm at purple rank atm), cause you need to step up your game in a hard way. So you need to learn and adapt more about the way survivors trying to play against you, especially SWF. The period that is the most fun to play as the killer is rank 10~17 in my opinion.
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but survivors can play fun on red ranks (1-4)
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The pip system is supposed to be a way to test your skill against the other side, if you completely stomp (as survivor or as killer) because the rival sucks you didnt prove much. You risk overranking and being put against very tough players, if you get paired against potatoes is because said potatoes overranked playing against an even bigger potato.
Take it as a national sports team playing against a regional team from a small town, they are going to stomp them but they wont be proving much by doing it.
What they should do is fix the matchmaking and ranking system to avoid situations where people get paired with such skill disparities, trials where one side steamrolls the other should be very very rare (by steamroll i mean 5 gens with no hooks for survs or 4 hooks with no gens for killers or something like that).
They should also fix some killer score points, for example downing exposed survivors hurts your pip potential (Myers is inmensely affected by this).
P.D. Depiping in this cases should be out of the question of course, there should be a safeguard treshold to avoid it.
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@HectorBrando the pip system must be same.
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So, lets just get you're statement out of the way. You are wrong right out of the gate.
If one side loses due to being low skilled that shouldn't negatively affect the winning wide. That doesn't make sense in any way, shape, or form. No other game functions like that. In fighting games if you're playing ranked matches and you win against someone of much lower rank you still make progress towards your next rank. In mobas you don't even see people weaker than you in terms of ranked gameplay. So, why is it that dbd is the only game where winning a game you should win actively punishes the winner along with the loser? Because the victory cube has become even more flawed than before.
Rather than simply quantify what constitutes a win or loss it has been designed in a way that alters playstyle and imposes the need to play suboptimally for the sake of the other. It has affected survivors as well as killers. If either side plays too aggressively or efficiently, neither side actually can win. Cause remember the win condition currently is to pip or double pip. Anything below that is a draw(black pip) or a loss.
Also you have no idea what amount of effort was put in by any other player than yourself.
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I don't care if I pip or depip as long as I have fun:)
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I don't care if i pip or depip as long as i have 4 stacks on B&C or We are gonna live forever.
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Unfortunately, this is the answer. The devs have acknowledged that they messed up pipping and ranks with this latest change, so we just have to accept that we're not going to be rewarded for good play until this is resolved.
I mean, at least there's no rewards for ranking up yet, so you just have to satisfy yourself with pub stomping the potato-tiers for a while.
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