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Legion's FF miss attack penalty should apply to Myers.
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Myers is better designed than Legion. He should not get nerfed because you have no idea how to break line of sight.
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OP wanted to point out how stupid the Legion nerf was and not get Myers nerfed.
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Again, Myers is better designed than Legion.
Legion was and still is a ######### disaster.
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After his fixes, Legion was better designed than release, sure.
Compared to Myers? Legion is still garbage.
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It's very different on PC where players can react much faster and the game runs much smoother. Legion has always had a low kill rate on the pc even with infinite mend and moonwalk. The thing that you have to understand is that Legion's ability to track isn't that great and wasn't even changed. He can still see everyone whose within his terror radius, but when they changed speed addons to tracking range addons they actually messed up his tracking so now it malfunctions at times.
Let's start with what the thread is about, Legion's power loss on missed attacks. This was a change made to stop players from doing repeated frenzy lunges to move faster and farther than they should. They wanted players to attack when they felt they could hit, but not to swing to move around the map. This change on its own isn't much to think of, but Legion's sprint speed was also nerfed along with vault.
So, now he can't cover as much ground naturally and he needs to pick his shots carefully. Ok, fine. Now we look at having to deal with losing power when land regular basic attacks. They were nice enough to change it from ALL power lost when landing basic attacks outside of frenzy to just 50%. In frenzy though if you miss you loss ALL your power, incur a the 4s stun, and then have to wait 20s to get your power back. Now this wouldn't be so bad if A) You could frenzy without needing a full power bar. B)If your power ended by didn't stun as long. Or C)If you were still getting the same vault and sprint speed.
Since we don't get any of those options the penalty for missing is super heavy on a power that has been made nonlethal and not much of a time waster even if you have the whole team mending. People say it wastes 40s of time, but that isn't exactly true as with your increase TR they aren't in need of mending immediately because it doesn't tick down and can't be damaged forcefully. So it wouldn't put much power back into Legion if they just made it so he took the stun for missing, but his power just stopped where it was and refilled after he finished his stun.
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Honestly, I don't mind how the devs fixed him. I don't like how weak he feels. It's the exact same issue I had on release. Playing him as intended, he's garbage.
The difference is now no-one can exploit poorly thought out mechanics. So it just highlights how weak he was in the first place. At least, for me, I think he's weak.
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@Mc_Harty Legion is/was weak initially, it was just a shame people decided to exploit. Now Legion is a everyday killer who can occasionally run fast.
At least you can admit that playing as intended was a terrible feeling for Legion, though the nerfs did not give any justice. DW needed a change, Feral Frenzy did not. THe sooner people realize that, the better the Legion can be.
Anyways, my stance on all this is Myers does not need to be nerfed, Feral Frenzy needs to be great again, and Deep Wounds was a terrible idea.
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*sigh
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Can we please give OP a break, they didn’t mean it they just chose a controversial comparison to express their dislike of the legion changes. They’re not actually asking for the nerf, can this thread chill now. OP isn’t even replying anymore...quoting Chester bc he’s right
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Myers ain't low tier, he's mid and I'd say dead in the middle or a bit towards to higher side, the fact that his terror radius is shorter but being a 115% killer isn't bad. And add in the fact that he can pop tier 3 when ever he wants basically.
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