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This is getting a little ridiculous
I basically distanced myself from the community way back when because of the rather toxic environment, but as Ive more recently really gotten into the game again, I started to look into it again, and it's been overall pretty okay here on these forums. That was until the ghostface ptb, and ever since then, the majority of posts here are downright vile. Yes, ghostface is a bit of a mess on the ptb, but people demanding that he needs a "full rework" and flat out calling the devs names are going way too far.
Y'all really need to step back and take a chill pill, I get it, BHVR isnt perfect, they do make mistakes and frankly the amount of bugs associated with ghostface are somewhat concerning, but the simple fact is, they are literally the only company that has managed to make a truly successful asymmetrical game, something that quite a few companies have been trying their hands at for years, and still are. Balancing this sort of game really isnt that simple, especially when a lot of folks on both sides have very unrealistic expectations of what constitutes a "win" and are basing their balance complaints on those expectations.
So please, please, please, if you are getting this incredibly upset over this game, voice your concerns in a calm matter, and show your displeasure by stepping back from the game for a while, plus, quite frankly, I really think that taking a break could do a lot of people around here some serious good, it's not healthy to get this worked up for no good reason.
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There are many things I can say to this, but I won't right now since I'm a bit tired and my brain doesn't want to work.
But what I can tell you is that we are upset because this isn't the first time we've been bamboozled, look, I love BHVR, but even my patience has limits. And I can only be a hopeful fool for so long.
There is a lot to praise BHVR for, and I'll always be one of the first ones to do so. But you gotta realize, the rage you are seeing is from a build up of bad calls.
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They aren't bugs that people are upset about. The entire design is flawed from the ground up and a mess. He shouldn't have even made it to the PTB as is. Then again all you need as a reminder of how bad the devs are at their own game is the clip of them getting wrecked by survivors getting looped and pallet stunned.
The fact that just looking somewhat in the direction of Ghostface to stop his ability is bad enough since many do it accidentally, but add in that there's the obvious audio cue that he's there makes it ridiculous. I guess we should add that same thing to Myers and the Pig if they're in TR range. The whole point of NOT having a TR was so you could sneak up.
The "bugs" would be survivors on the hook and floor being able to also negate your ability except those aren't bugs. They are lazy oversights. A bug would be being able to do it through walls which does happen.
Yes they deserve to be called names for lazy work.
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Thats the thing, just looking at him and causing him to instantly break his power, even through walls, IS a bug. From what we originally saw, they specifically didnt want any of that, its supposed to be a one second timer. Yes, its bad that its happening as is, but the whole spinning your mouse around and destealthing him thing? That most certainly is a bug. The main problem with him that ISNT a bug, is the wooshing sound when he's stealthed, and it actually seems like theyve acknowledged that problem.
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3 years of the same repeating mistakes.
2nd year anniversary they said, they built the forums to listen to the community, yet a dev never really responded to people with complaints about the game, just the community moderators etc.
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Basically they should just rework everything from the ground up. Just shut down servers and take a good hard look at the core mechanics. Probably a minority for this, but I know other games shut down and do maintenance that's more than just a patch up. Devs should consider this before moving forward, as in what direction do they want this game to go towards and come back with a clear vision.
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@Pike_Trickfoot Honestly, I'd be all for it. They should make Death Garden: Blood Hunt live for all platforms, since I heard that game was fun and balanced, and just work DbD from the ground up.
I'm willing to wait.
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He doesn't need a full rework, the power needs to resemble more towards Myers in the regard to stalking Survivors having a charged ring around them, so he can pop it to expose them.
Audio cues for his stealth shouldn't exist, the cameras and overall the way you disable the power should be fixed and or none existent, and after some other minor things he could even be Top-Tier in some regards.
People who think he needs a full rework are over-exaggerating and are either just sheep, or jumping on the "WE HATE BHVR" bandwagon. Everyone needs to look at this constructively, not destructively.
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Pretty much fully agree with you, and thats kind of been my problem in general. A lot of folks here tend to be really quick to over exaggerate on problems. Are there problems? Yes, oh hell yes of course there are, but a lot of the posts around here would have you believe that this game is a rotting mess that no one plays, not a pretty successful game that has active playerbases on 3 different platforms, with 2 more incoming.
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There is no need to shut down the servers to create a patch to fix the problems with this game.
What that actually needs is a Dev Team with a good understanding of the game, a vision to create, and the perseverance to actually work on it.
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And you think that this team would be unable to do so? Because this is a pretty basic concept where one does not need to have a certain skillset. And shutting down wouldn't just be another patch. I mean an entire overhaul - which I know is a lot but it's a method. A method I haven't seen even mentioned.
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I get what you're saying. But as you said, you've distanced yourself and are just coming back.
So for the past 3 years BHVR has made increasingly frustrating, Questionable, and concerning decisions both balance wise and from a game design standpoint. This will be yet another Killer who out of a whopping 15-16 killer that is not able to keep up with high skilled play in top ranks. Their map design terrible which spawned looping, then on top of that any glaring issues they try to play them off as features. Or ignore them, or even make unnecessary changes. How is it some of the bugs from launch are still present in this game when it's been 3 years?
There testers and Q&A team isn't that good either.
They have messed up ALOT, and Unfortunately it takes people to act like this for them to actually make significant changes. Someone in another thread recently said this company has grown complacent with this game and now only seeks to do either the bare minimum or they're not prioritizing things right. And that is a direct result of not having competition.
Not to digress, but recall when F13 first released and was breaking some records in the short time for 2017, DBD was creating better quality content and even decided to release on a 3 month schedule.
They stepped it up because they realized at the moment, their consumer audience had another option.
Now that no competition is here, they've grown a bit too lazy in there releases and in the quality of their content.
So while yes, some of the post are uncalled for. Alot of this they have brought on themselves from being tone-deaf to the needs and wants of their consumer base.
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@Catbucket It wasn't just Ghostface, it was Legion, The Pig end game nerf, Remember me nerf, waiting on a Freddy rework, for a lot of people a battle pass, The Plague, MoM original form and nerf, Ds nerf, potential Nurse nerf. It isn't just Ghostface this has been building the releases feel lazy and uninspired. The game is constantly full of bugs. People are going to voice their opinions. Feedback doesn't always seem to matter and if you have invested an incredible amount of time and money in something you are going to have a strong opinions.
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^ This.
People aren't upset because the devs messed up.
They are upset because these mess ups have been happening for 2+ years over and over and over without seemingly learning from their mistakes.
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I think this sums up where a lot of the overwhelming hostility is coming from and why. Not much else to it, really. BVHR needs to read posts like this for a reality check, or, if another game with a competent dev team comes along, they're in for one of a different brand.
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The pig and remember me nerf were because of the changes to endgame in general, and will likely see changes later down the road. Legion and plague... are not as bad as a lot of people here seem to claim. Legion actually seems to be a genuinely strong killer, even at high ranks from what I've been watching, seen quite a few people flat out admit that he's good recently, but they call him boring. And Plague, I really do think most people are overlooking most of what she does, and focusing entirely on the corrupt purge aspect.
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They keep messing up, that's the problem. Anyone can oversee a problem or two but when the problems happen consistently over and over.. then something's wrong.
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Well, I know there's a lot of people who can act rude sometimes but you can't expect that people won't complaing because... What's the point of not complaining? The devs speking by themselfs that they want the feedback and thats why people are here.
I like the fact that devs are trying to talk with us (not every company does things like that) but sometimes sounds that they are so pending to talk about killers... Anytime someone said something about it the devs are quoting and saying: "Hmmmm nice but we have a different point of view :) we want balance! But keep going!" What is "balance"? Pig got nerfed SO HARD with this endgame bs, she was supossed to put pressure but now her traps are just cosmectics. Legion was destroyed, Plague... I refuse to talk about Plague because I feel so bad for having a killer with a phenomenal design, good voice acting but at the same time one of the worsts killers in the game. She is punished for using her power and survivors are just ignoring her vile purge and doing things normally. Should I stop this bs with tunnel, camp or op add ons? Not my stile. Ghostface, well................. He's a joke.
BUT I'm still playing with the weakest killers in the game, I still support the game, I still use my money in cosmectics so yes, I would like to have my voice here. And I'm not feeling that I'm attacking anyone.
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