Do you agree that both sides are equally toxic?
From what I have seen playing killer and survivor for a year, both sides can be toxic. And there are no excuses for this behaviour. If someone was toxic towards you please don't become one of them. There is no excuse for being toxic.
That is all.
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What I mean by toxic is bm'ing. Not tunneling or camping or "gen rush".
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Yes. Survivor is just pronounced because it's 4 in 1 game.
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After playing since ps4 launch I have gotten 2 angry messages from killers and literally hundreds from survivors from then until now. Including angry messages from teammates. Survivors on ps4 are way more toxic after matches, at least from what I can tell.
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As a killer I feel more "intoxicated" than survivor... No matter how I'm playing, even if I don't tunnel or camp the same group with pink neas (Zzz) will click click click the entire match with flashlights, throw pallets for nothing when I'm passing OR complaining saying that I'm a baby killer, ezi whatever
As a survivor I don't feel stressed tbh
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This about sums my opinion up
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Really? For example last two games playing survivor I had two different toxic Myers who kept bm'ing throughout the game without me doing anything to earn it.
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It is definitely more pronounced on the survivor side as having the numbers advantage puts a lot more fuel in your tank than being a single player with no backup. One gets started with the toxic chatter or play then the others start to join in. Soon you've got a whole group of bell ends taking the piss.
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I agree about the "pack" thing but killers can be toxic as well regardless. They may be alone but as a survivor you can be powerless and sometimes killer get that power trip doing everything to make you feel helpless and without options to stop it.
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Yes, I agree! However, it's usually a stereotype that survivors are more toxic than killers.
Talking about toxic survivors, I have a story!
My brother was playing killer, and he decided to play Nurse because she looked really cool. However, he didn't know that she is a very very difficult killer to learn, so he got destroyed by a SWF group. The survivors were t-bag'ing him, and clicking their flashlights as usual. My brother got really frustrated about it, so he handed the controller to me and guess what? I'm a Nurse main and... they... got... destroyed. It was very satisfying because they got a taste of their own medicine.
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Both sides CAN be toxic.
Are they equally toxic? Hell no.
My experience is people who play killer are way more mellow. You can even see it in streamers.
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I agree, but let's be honest...this whole community is filled with toxic players, regardless of which role they choose to play in game.
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True but unfortunately not only this one. Sometimes I wonder why are most people like this and why can't they be nice? They even put toxic in their name like it is some kind of medal.
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Both can be toxic, but I personally never felt like I was on the receiving end of it when I played Survivor.
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I know, it comes from immaturity , I'd say. Those people are what you might call a "Troll".
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yes, they are
numerically you'll find more toxic survivors because there are more of them in a game
but i've had members of both sides do equally toxic things
this community is pretty tame compared to a lot of other online gaming communities though
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Hit it right on the head, more survivors are “toxic” then killers statistically. I think toxic is the wrong word, just annoying really really. And here’s why:
- more survivors than killers; not just in a match, but in the game. I’m sure you’ve all noticed that time of day when you’re in que forever for a lobby because there are so limited killers.
- its tactical; good survivors are deliberately trying to get in your head and piss you off, to throw you off your game psychologically to bait you away from their team doing gens, don’t fall for this, just stay cool
- It is sooo much easier to play survivor then killer. Survivors have all the advantages in this game and most of them know it, so it’s easy to adapt a “toxic” or “cocky” play style.
There’s always going to be this, it’s not a DBD thing, it’s in every multiplayer game in some form or another...get used to it.
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also keep in mind that "toxic" is a widely used and hugely subjective term
some people considering simply playing the game well toxic, and others don't consider any in-game behaviour that isn't overt exploiting toxic
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Agreed.
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I think playing the game without deliberately insulting someone is not toxic, objectively. Doing something to provoke the other person is toxic.
For example If I was camped by a killer but he/she isn't bm'ing I don't see that as toxic. If survivor is bodyblocking the hook without bm'ing that is not toxic either.
If you add bm'ing like noding, hitting, tbagging, flashlight clicking to those scenarios that is toxic.
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A lot of killers in general are just sort of worn out and can't be bothered to be angry and toxic anymore. Most games are people telling you how bad you are and how toxic your being even if you just play the game normally. If you don't follow the house rules you're being toxic and sweaty. If you do follow them and lose, then your just trash at the game and should uninstall and #########. Getting that kind of nonsense day in and day out just sort of takes the fight outta ya.
Like you just become all "F it. Let them do whatever. It's not real life."
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I seen
WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY
more toxic survivors than killers.
Even if I divide the toxic survivors by 6, and times the toxic killers by 2, I'd still have
WAY, way, way, way, way, waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy
more toxic survivors than killer.
maybe that's just me and my games though.
EDIT: heh, nice.
Post edited by TheGameZpro3 on11 -
The safety of anonymity and distance from repercussions and likely because it gives them a sense of power they might not otherwise have. It's the cause of many under the bridge dwellers that have populated the internet for years.
They feel safe to essentially exercise the 'darker' side of their nature, otherwise known as 'Being the jerk you don't dare to be in real life because someone might actually smack you down"
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Both are equally toxic. Although, I dealt with more as survivor.
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I’ve dealt with way more toxic survivors than killers. I have about an even number of time on both.
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Both are just as toxic. Some people swear survivors are more toxic but this isn't true at all.
I've been in many matches where the killer hols the then swings at your body over and over (something which the devs even considered removing from the game because it is toxic) while. None of the survivors did anything toxic, except maybe DC.
People claiming one side is lore toxic than the other is just a one-side main with a bone to pick and a narrative to push.
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Both are toxic but in different ways.
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The survivor side is more toxic because;
- More numerous. Higher chance of encountering a toxic player in every game in comparison to a killer.
- Gang mentality. 4v1 foster a gang mentality because its an "us vs them" scenario.
- Because its so easy to die as a survivor if the killer wants you dead right away, it harbors a lot of animosity towards killers in general who doesn't "follow the rules".
- SWFs combines the points above into a toxic mess.
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I think survivors are more the toxic ones in this game. Killers can't really do much to be toxic in game, all I can think of is hitting people on the hook? Nodding their head? idk.
I believe surviros are more toxic and more inclined to behave in such a way for a couple of reasons. They can't properly defend themselves so when they pallet slam someone trying to kill them it makes them want to rub it in or something perhaps? If they are SWF I suppose it is to look 'cool' in front of their friends tbagging and clicking their torches. Aside from this if survivors get destroyed it can be frustrating for them and they will get salty and more inclined to message the killer with abuse. Tunnelling may also cause this...
I am a killer main so take what I say with a pinch of salt. I have played a fair bit of both sides, I only ever seem to get salty messages from survivors rather than killers and I think I get why.
TLDR: Survivors are normally the ones throwing around toxicity but it isn't to say it isn't always provoked.
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No, I do not agree with this false statement. Anyone who plays the game on both sides knows survivors are disproportionately more toxic than killers. They're usually the instigators of toxicity and are usually more abusive than killers.
EDIT: Just because both sides can be toxic doesn't make them equal. Jaywalking and armed robbery are both against the law, but I think we can all agree the latter is far worse.
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i dont see an equal on toxic from both sides theres some toxic ppl but most are survivor since ochido just made alot and ALOT of fan bois come to this game spamming flashlight t bag while you get stunned but the worst its claudettes since for my opinion i HATE claudettes
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I play both sides pretty frequently and I have far more matches with multiple toxic survivors than ones with a toxic killer. I also get hate messages nearly every match as killer, while I've never had a killer send me toxic messages(on console so no Post Game Chat)
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It is impossible not being toxic in a game like this, you always want to fight back somehow
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Survivor main eh? Just curious on how a killer swinging at an already hooked survivor is toxic. It’s really a handicap, the cool down from his/her swing buys another enough time to unhook you safely. If a killer is doing this, they’re just saying “I stink at chasing survivors, please ######### on this 1 hook so I don’t have to chase you again. Nothing personal, I’ll do it to the next guy also unless they all escape first”
I wouldn’t worry bout that stuff lol
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I am not a survivor main and I still think both sides are toxic.
Hitting survivor on hook multiple times is toxic. If it isn't then tbag is also not toxic.
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I typically just look at the endgame chat when thinking of being toxic. Flashlight clicky click and T bagging can be considered strategy to throw your opponent off, sure...but trash talking after the game is over can in no way be considered strategy. Unfortunately I get way too many survivors complain about EVERYTHING in the endgame chat and your trash for doing it. Most recent was being called a "slugging gamer" because instead of stopping to hook the first guy I downed using Myers 60 seconds of T3, i managed to down the other 3 survivors I saw during that time as well.
Its not even a killer vs survivor thing either. Ive seen a survivor start bashing one of his own teammates that wasnt in his SWF squad for using urban evasion as soon as the endgame chat popped up because it "wasnt optimal". Its gotten to the point that if I see stuff like this, Ill try to chime in and offer some support to whoever is being hounded.
Thats not to say I havent seen a killer go out of their way to be a dick. I once had a plague vomit on me on the hook for 2 minutes straight after downing me first that match. Was CLEARLY trying to make me mad, and then blew up chat immediately after going about how mad i mustve been. While I was mildly annoyed, I dont typically bring items as a survivor so it was just whatever. These cases though are few and far between than the trashtalk and abuse I typically see coming from survivors, both toward the killer and their own teammates, in the endgame chat.
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There is no end game chat on console so I judge by players actions during a game.
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Yes, both sides are toxic, but not equally so. I've never had a killer tell me they were going to murder my family and children. I've never had a killer tell me to kill myself. I've never had a killer come to my stream to harass me. Only survivors have done this.
Look up the false equivalency fallacy. Just because both sides are doing the same thing doesn't mean they're the same. Severity matters. Hitting someone on the hook is not nearly on the same level as telling someone to go kill themselves.
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Players can send messages to each other on console, didn't you know?
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All these down votes on posts saying Survivors are more toxic are hilarious.
I have yet to have a Killer wish death, #########, and yeast infections on myself and all my family after a match. Or spam invites to ready made groups named after hate messages. Or leave hate mail all over my steam profile.
All of that, Survivors have done repeatedly.
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Oh yes both sides of definitely just as toxic as each other.
The only difference is that because it's a 4 to 1 ratio you're most likely going to run into toxic survivors whether you're playing survivor or killer
As a survivor especially if you're going in solo you have a chance of running into toxic survivors and toxic killer.
As a killer you have a chance of running into four toxic survivors.
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I blocked my messages so I don't.
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And why did you do that? I'm guessing it wasn't because they were being friendly.
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There are downvotes on people saying both sides are equally toxic also. If you didn't notice.
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I did that long before dbd because multiplayer games are toxic.
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My point still stands.
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If hypocrisy is fine by you.
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So you are equating everything I mentioned to getting hit multiple times on the hook? LMFAO
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Most survivors are whiners, not all. They just have a hard time accepting loss especially knowing they have all the advantages. You can go out of your way to not tunnel, giving up a free hit/down, and they’ll still call you trash lol. I’ve had a player complain about popping T3 with Myers while in a chase!?!? I don’t even know how to make sense out of that. It boils down to this:
If any survivor died in your game while you’re playing killer, statistically 2 of them will instaRAGE. It’s especially funny with crutched “free hit” load outs which is now the majority of survivors. Quick math lesson, assuming you get a 4K, and all 12 possible hooks, and each survivor used deadhard twice(usually more but we’ll keep it at 2 because many survivors literally waste it only to go down .025 seconds later), that’s 12 extra hits (minimum) on top of the base 24 for a non-instadowning killer (includes MOM) that you have get.
Get a 4k even after all that, yep...you’ll get some hate mail for doing your job too good.
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