Story time with TORMENTED
Not long into a game on Lerys, and first person goes down completely opposite end of the map from me. I'm trying to work on a gen, so I rely on the others to save them. They do, but he is down instantly. I knew instantly that it was a camping wraith. So I left it alone, got two genders done, and by this time the first survivor was dead, and the second was hooked. I thought surely he isn't camping two in a row, I got save him, only to get jumped by the wraith. Of course he goes after the guy I unhook, and it takes a while for him to get caught again. But he still dies after the 4the gen is done. The other guy gets caught and gives up on the hook. But im already being chased...
Luckily, went ended up at the hatch (I didn't even know where it was), and it was hatch standoff time (ugh!!). So I notice next to the hatch is a little area where if someone stood in, they could get blocked in by another person. And the wraith stood there eventually. So I blocked him in. He couldn't move. Not even a little. And I just kept pointing at him, shaking my body or nodding (basically saying don't camp like that).
This goes on for Ten minutes... Until he finally cracks and hits me. The abuse i got was astounding in PSN messages.
Using the games environment, I punished a killer for not being fair to those he camped. What do you guys think? Did he deserve to suffer being stuck in one spot?
Sorry its a long one. I have plenty other great moments to share if you're interested that are shorter!
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Just make he doesn’t get revenge on you because sometimes that stuff tends to backfire1
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KING_DEDE said:Just make he doesn’t get revenge on you because sometimes that stuff tends to backfire0
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TormentedSoul385 said:KING_DEDE said:Just make he doesn’t get revenge on you because sometimes that stuff tends to backfire1
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I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.1 -
@marshmallowking said:
I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
This is not holding the game hostage.
At any point the Wraith could have hit the Survivor to end the game either by downing or relinquishing the hatch (which he did).
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marshmallowking said:I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
I hate the hatch standoff, but I wasn't giving him another kill regardless. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I don't stuff like this any other time, so I'm not one for being toxic or just a d%ck0 -
TormentedSoul385 said:marshmallowking said:I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
I hate the hatch standoff, but I wasn't giving him another kill regardless. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I don't stuff like this any other time, so I'm not one for being toxic or just a d%ck0 -
Getting that 4th Gender is very important.
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Vortexas said:
Getting that 4th Gender is very important.
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@KING_DEDE said:
TormentedSoul385 said:
marshmallowking said:I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
Hmm, I didn't think of that. I suppose it is something I shouldn't have done.... Nonetheless, even a Wraith shouldn't need to camp from the beginning of the game. I understand if it was late stage of the game, sure. But beginning? I will however apologize to the other player (don't think he is on the forum, and if he is, I don't know his username), cause after what you've said, it is something I shouldn't have done. Although, I will say I wasn't taking the game hostage. Even if I didn't block him in, it was still a hatch stand off, so the game would have gone on just as long anyway.
I hate the hatch standoff, but I wasn't giving him another kill regardless. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I don't stuff like this any other time, so I'm not one for being toxic or just a d%ck
To be technical this would be counted as holding the game hostage by Bvhr sooo yeeeaaaaahhhhh
No.
Survivors cannot body block a Killer to hold a game hostage.
Especially at the hatch, that is just stupid.
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Tizzle said:
@KING_DEDE said:
TormentedSoul385 said:
marshmallowking said:I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
Hmm, I didn't think of that. I suppose it is something I shouldn't have done.... Nonetheless, even a Wraith shouldn't need to camp from the beginning of the game. I understand if it was late stage of the game, sure. But beginning? I will however apologize to the other player (don't think he is on the forum, and if he is, I don't know his username), cause after what you've said, it is something I shouldn't have done. Although, I will say I wasn't taking the game hostage. Even if I didn't block him in, it was still a hatch stand off, so the game would have gone on just as long anyway.
I hate the hatch standoff, but I wasn't giving him another kill regardless. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I don't stuff like this any other time, so I'm not one for being toxic or just a d%ck
To be technical this would be counted as holding the game hostage by Bvhr sooo yeeeaaaaahhhhh
No.
Survivors cannot body block a Killer to hold a game hostage.
Especially at the hatch, that is just stupid.
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language like “I blocked him in. He couldn’t move not even a little bit” may be construed by the developers as holding a game hostage. Also if it wasn’t I don’t understand the point of how it would be punishing if you didn’t expect it to be taken in that manner.
Also @Tizzle a opinion you or anyone else don’t agree with isn’t inherently stupid just because you disagree.0 -
KING_DEDE said:Tizzle said:
@KING_DEDE said:
TormentedSoul385 said:
marshmallowking said:I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
Hmm, I didn't think of that. I suppose it is something I shouldn't have done.... Nonetheless, even a Wraith shouldn't need to camp from the beginning of the game. I understand if it was late stage of the game, sure. But beginning? I will however apologize to the other player (don't think he is on the forum, and if he is, I don't know his username), cause after what you've said, it is something I shouldn't have done. Although, I will say I wasn't taking the game hostage. Even if I didn't block him in, it was still a hatch stand off, so the game would have gone on just as long anyway.
I hate the hatch standoff, but I wasn't giving him another kill regardless. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I don't stuff like this any other time, so I'm not one for being toxic or just a d%ck
To be technical this would be counted as holding the game hostage by Bvhr sooo yeeeaaaaahhhhh
No.
Survivors cannot body block a Killer to hold a game hostage.
Especially at the hatch, that is just stupid.
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@marshmallowking said:
language like “I blocked him in. He couldn’t move not even a little bit” may be construed by the developers as holding a game hostage. Also if it wasn’t I don’t understand the point of how it would be punishing if you didn’t expect it to be taken in that manner.Also @Tizzle a opinion you or anyone else don’t agree with isn’t inherently stupid just because you disagree.
It is stupid because it's completely wrong.
At any time the Killer can hit the Survivor to get out of that situation.
This in no way, shape, or form is "holding a game hostage".
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TormentedSoul385 said:KING_DEDE said:Tizzle said:
@KING_DEDE said:
TormentedSoul385 said:
marshmallowking said:I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
Hmm, I didn't think of that. I suppose it is something I shouldn't have done.... Nonetheless, even a Wraith shouldn't need to camp from the beginning of the game. I understand if it was late stage of the game, sure. But beginning? I will however apologize to the other player (don't think he is on the forum, and if he is, I don't know his username), cause after what you've said, it is something I shouldn't have done. Although, I will say I wasn't taking the game hostage. Even if I didn't block him in, it was still a hatch stand off, so the game would have gone on just as long anyway.
I hate the hatch standoff, but I wasn't giving him another kill regardless. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I don't stuff like this any other time, so I'm not one for being toxic or just a d%ck
To be technical this would be counted as holding the game hostage by Bvhr sooo yeeeaaaaahhhhh
No.
Survivors cannot body block a Killer to hold a game hostage.
Especially at the hatch, that is just stupid.
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marshmallowking said:language like “I blocked him in. He couldn’t move not even a little bit” may be construed by the developers as holding a game hostage. Also if it wasn’t I don’t understand the point of how it would be punishing if you didn’t expect it to be taken in that manner.
Also @Tizzle a opinion you or anyone else don’t agree with isn’t inherently stupid just because you disagree.1 -
KING_DEDE said:TormentedSoul385 said:KING_DEDE said:Tizzle said:
@KING_DEDE said:
TormentedSoul385 said:
marshmallowking said:I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
Hmm, I didn't think of that. I suppose it is something I shouldn't have done.... Nonetheless, even a Wraith shouldn't need to camp from the beginning of the game. I understand if it was late stage of the game, sure. But beginning? I will however apologize to the other player (don't think he is on the forum, and if he is, I don't know his username), cause after what you've said, it is something I shouldn't have done. Although, I will say I wasn't taking the game hostage. Even if I didn't block him in, it was still a hatch stand off, so the game would have gone on just as long anyway.
I hate the hatch standoff, but I wasn't giving him another kill regardless. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I don't stuff like this any other time, so I'm not one for being toxic or just a d%ck
To be technical this would be counted as holding the game hostage by Bvhr sooo yeeeaaaaahhhhh
No.
Survivors cannot body block a Killer to hold a game hostage.
Especially at the hatch, that is just stupid.
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Being incorrect is not the same as being stupid. That type of derogatory language is what people with weak arguments use to validate an unsubstantiated claim. If you are correct why do you feel the need to insult anyone? Let your statement stand if it’s correct good for you but if it’s not because you have less intelligence. Smart people can be wrong.0
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marshmallowking said:Being incorrect is not the same as being stupid. That type of derogatory language is what people with weak arguments use to validate an unsubstantiated claim. If you are correct why do you feel the need to insult anyone? Let your statement stand if it’s correct good for you but if it’s not because you have less intelligence. Smart people can be wrong.0
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@TormentedSoul385 sorry if I hijacked your thread. I actually side with you on the main issue (unnecessary camping) and I do not in any way hope for bad things coming your way. I’ve seen some harsh things happen to people with the intention of doing something good (which I believe was the purpose of your story, evil wins when good people do nothing kind of sentiment) and I don’t want something like that for you.1
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marshmallowking said:@TormentedSoul385 sorry if I hijacked your thread. I actually side with you on the main issue (unnecessary camping) and I do not in any way hope for bad things coming your way. I’ve seen some harsh things happen to people with the intention of doing something good (which I believe was the purpose of your story, evil wins when good people do nothing kind of sentiment) and I don’t want something like that for you.0
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@TormentedSoul385 said:
marshmallowking said:@TormentedSoul385 sorry if I hijacked your thread. I actually side with you on the main issue (unnecessary camping) and I do not in any way hope for bad things coming your way. I’ve seen some harsh things happen to people with the intention of doing something good (which I believe was the purpose of your story, evil wins when good people do nothing kind of sentiment) and I don’t want something like that for you.
Thank you, I was a bit confused, so this helps me out. Look, if something bad happens because of the whole scenario, I will deserve it. And like I've said, its the only time I've done something banable, so I'm not too worried. I'll take the ban in any case.
You have nothing to worry about.
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TormentedSoul385 said:KING_DEDE said:TormentedSoul385 said:KING_DEDE said:Tizzle said:
@KING_DEDE said:
TormentedSoul385 said:
marshmallowking said:I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
Hmm, I didn't think of that. I suppose it is something I shouldn't have done.... Nonetheless, even a Wraith shouldn't need to camp from the beginning of the game. I understand if it was late stage of the game, sure. But beginning? I will however apologize to the other player (don't think he is on the forum, and if he is, I don't know his username), cause after what you've said, it is something I shouldn't have done. Although, I will say I wasn't taking the game hostage. Even if I didn't block him in, it was still a hatch stand off, so the game would have gone on just as long anyway.
I hate the hatch standoff, but I wasn't giving him another kill regardless. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I don't stuff like this any other time, so I'm not one for being toxic or just a d%ck
To be technical this would be counted as holding the game hostage by Bvhr sooo yeeeaaaaahhhhh
No.
Survivors cannot body block a Killer to hold a game hostage.
Especially at the hatch, that is just stupid.
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KING_DEDE said:TormentedSoul385 said:marshmallowking said:I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
I hate the hatch standoff, but I wasn't giving him another kill regardless. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I don't stuff like this any other time, so I'm not one for being toxic or just a d%ck0 -
TormentedSoul385 said:KING_DEDE said:Tizzle said:
@KING_DEDE said:
TormentedSoul385 said:
marshmallowking said:I don’t understand how playing the game mechanics allow is equal to forcing another player to be held hostage in a game, which is what your story appears to me to be highlighting as an acceptable response to something allowed that you personally disagree with on an emotional level.
dont get me wrong I agree that for me your experience would be tilting however I think you are putting yourself in a position for actual bannable bullying. I do not have a solution to the perceived issue, a less entertaining experience because of a killers right to choose a less then interesting way to play ( a wraith is one of the least powerful and more boring killers imo to play as) But I don’t believe it is your right to punish him by holding him hostage in a match.
Hmm, I didn't think of that. I suppose it is something I shouldn't have done.... Nonetheless, even a Wraith shouldn't need to camp from the beginning of the game. I understand if it was late stage of the game, sure. But beginning? I will however apologize to the other player (don't think he is on the forum, and if he is, I don't know his username), cause after what you've said, it is something I shouldn't have done. Although, I will say I wasn't taking the game hostage. Even if I didn't block him in, it was still a hatch stand off, so the game would have gone on just as long anyway.
I hate the hatch standoff, but I wasn't giving him another kill regardless. Thanks for pointing this out to me. I don't stuff like this any other time, so I'm not one for being toxic or just a d%ck
To be technical this would be counted as holding the game hostage by Bvhr sooo yeeeaaaaahhhhh
No.
Survivors cannot body block a Killer to hold a game hostage.
Especially at the hatch, that is just stupid.
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